Gorl World + Haydur Nation reaction channel discussion - Come sperg about the Reactmosphere, right here

Also way to look down on people working in the food service industry, I bet some of her donos work at places like that and wouldnt like her using that as an insult.
Not a good look, dear.
Sam for real stop acting like your ass was not poor.
 
She "upgraded" our nickname from FRBs to just RBs to "Arby's".. again a super clever and not at all forced and unfunny insult.
Does Sam know what Arby's stands for in the community? Wasn't that nickname already taken by DD's labia?
I'd say it wasn't too bad. The camera kind of humanizes her, lol. She should stop pointing out other people using photos from thirty years ago as their avis though.

she didn’t have basic, critical transaction calculations written out, numbers she needed to prove points. She didn’t even have the listing and sale prices at hand from what I could tell. This then caused a 10-minute chaos where she was asking chat to multiply for her and looking though the listing. She then got things wrong, got flustered, came up with wrong answers, and then abandoned the question of how much Clara walked away with.
There were also basic real estate things she got wrong. Fine, chalk that up to inexperience. Not having the basic facts at hand and written out clearly, since math isn’t her forte, was the issue. Maybe that stream improved but I clocked out.
This is one of the things that annoy me about her. The contrast between being a stationery queen, using all these notebooks, stickers, whiteboards and being theatrically specific about her pens, how many swords people are supposed to be throwing in the chat and constantly pointing out a lack of organizing skills in others, yet both her life and her streams seem to be pretty disorganized. To a point where her chat happily waits for her for 40 minutes, because everyone's used to it. Not even getting into all the ways she often has to use the few seconds her intro music is playing to do something else (safety pee has been a thing lately), because she's so busy she can't just sit there for a minute getting ready.

Anyways, I don't want to pile on her either. I guess I'll trigger another Sam debate once everyone loves her again, lol.
 
Fuck I will pile in because she clearly likes reading.

Sam, I said you were like Ron because you cannot take criticism. You just cannot exist with opinions that disagree with yours or find them hypocritical. You focus on people to a degree where I question your mental health like Ron used to. Sure you may not think you are like Ron because you are getting money but that is negligent on you for thinking money makes you different. In fact that in itself is a real Ron mindset too.

You subjected your audience to your own personal shit with that Mandy broad. Do you know why a lot of farmers turned on you? MANDY'S BORING!!!

You would happily use the farms for stuff but the second the court of public opinion alters, dead to me. I think deep down you are petrified of losing your audience because of less money but the path you are on is so similar to Callie's. I don't know why all these creators think hey echo chamber = good because its not you get North Korea chat.

As for Sam I am simply not buying what you're selling because it is the consistency of diarrhea. There's the stationary queen, 5 swords each for your children. Yet the downright frenzy on Mandy with a Twitter break up then two weeks harping "we're stronger than ever." I will not go into the history with your children but it does not make sense to the image you are portraying.

I have not listened to your tirade yet but stop shaming poverty or the simple life. You apparently hold yourself a paragon of social movement but a lot of black people for example live in poverty. It's insanely hypocritical but it does not make sense of the values you said you stand for previously. Also, you would help a drug rehabilitation charity yet shame them all in the same breath. You are literally acting like Clara because she was documented doing the same multiple times.

You could make a thread on ATX but it would literally be you screaming at yourself.
 
Lol okay Sam. More shitty streams ahead because there’s definitely no middle between absolute chaos/zero prep and a “lesson plan.”

Keep poking, Sam. Coming off well.
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*Berlinda bullshit sfx*

You are a chameleon because I thought I just read a Callie post.

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Is it really an "EPIC" cowverse if no one knows who the fuck they are or cares. No one gives a shit about Trisha and Co because it's like a circle, it's just the same and frankly fucking DSP is more entertaining. Mandy's streams are your lowest engaged meaning your audience does not care.

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"my receipts" are things contributed by your sycophants. Fuck it's like reading DSP because lets brass tax. Your streams are not a group effort but a series of people gassing you up.

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If it is a team then where is your distribution of wealth? How BlackLivesMatters of you. I don't know who you are trying to gaslight your audience or yourself.

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Did Callie's dead channel crawl down your throat that was a good Callie impression.

Are you panicked because the Hussy case is over meaning your channel loses a lot of traffic? It's common knowledge that Ron and DC are not hot and lost relevance and with Callie doing nothing you are somewhat out of content.

You can't pivot to Amber because your knowledge is awful on her and your Amber streams were just terrible. You should do what you tell Ron

Log off!!
 
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While I think the criticisms posted here are valid, I also see where she’s coming from in those Tweets. Not the weird Arby's thing--that is just coming off as contrived and dumb. No, I mean I see what she's saying about her content.

Personally, for livestreams I need it to be enjoyable above all. I don’t need a stream to be perfect or even high-quality in order to enjoy myself. Sam has a knack for covering Ron imo, and because I enjoy watching her Ron coverage I can easily overlook many of her shortcomings.

But Sam. Gorl you’ve said your piece, now please hold your peace. Because being defensively reactive to criticism is a classic lolcow trait and it’s something that is much, much harder to dismiss than you taking a safety pee, or being under prepared in general. Improve the quality of your stream or don't; ultimately it won't matter much. But getting defensive and spergy about the inevitability of criticism WILL sink you.

:optimistic:🙏Hopefully the moment has passed. 🙏:optimistic:
 
I find Sam's responses funny as hell and I think her responses are in good humor.

I don't think Arby's employee was meant to dig at anyone in a serious way.

She's always been a sassy viper-tongued lesbo and she's going to respond back.

I think Sam can be a bit disorganized on stream but I still like viewing her stuff and I can always fast-forward during delays.

I've been enjoying the banter between the Farms and Sam Telfer.

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Stop larping as Chantal raging, take what's useful suggestions and move on.
Sam lives for drama, and can’t take valid critique at the best of times. She’s going to continue this lame bullshit for as long as we continue to acknowledge it.

ETA: I also disagree with her estimated $30k settlement figure. Hussy only ever wanted $10k. Add to that his legal fees, which he agreed to pay from the settlement, and I’d estimate another $10k max (given his initial fees were crowd funded), I believe he probably settled for $20k max. Hussy is a cheap faggot that would not want to jeopardise his Section 8 housing, Medicaid, and whatever government income he’s on. Any amount he walked away with that doesn‘t jeopardise that would still be a victory for him.
 
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At this point I'm sure everything's been said but

It looks like Sam is going through the cycle that media personalities who have direct contact with their audience go through. Where they start out being themselves and gain popularity for their personality/skills but most importantly, the authenticity they put out. At this point when faced with criticism, they are either able to shrug it off or genuinely take into consideration to change/improve themselves. This adds to their popularity positively

They gain very, very loyal hardcore followers because the nature of their media is usually niche or controversial. The hardcore followers become a double edged sword. They get gassed up constantly and intensely by their followers. Combine this with their growing base and their egos inflate and they feel invincible

But then inevitably what always happens is they face criticism for the first time with their new ego. Sometimes it's because they do something worth criticism. Sometimes it's because they've grown in popularity outside their niche so they get criticism from normies who aren't as invested, or extremely PC normies who want to label every single thing as a slur, like "Oh my God" and "lame."

How they react and act from this point is what turns them into a cow or not.

The cows are the ones who can't help but react poorly and obsessively. They hyperfocus on the critics, electing to engage with them which in turn attracts more and more trolls who love poking at cows. They ignore their supporters or turn so touchy and sensitive that even a helpful or constructive piece of advice/criticism is attacked. The cow may actively turn on the remaining supporters, accusing them of not being loyal enough or fake this whole time. They may simply ignore their remaining supporters while in a frenzied back and forth with the detractors. Then none of what people originally loved or even beloved them for remains. It's just some angry sensitive bitch baby who sustains their delusions of grandeur with their handful of remaining sycophants and basically reacts in arrogant anger to every poke and prod

Everyone from Callie, DC, Chins have gone through this cycle. This cycle takes down even personalities like Anthony Cumia and Joe Rogan whose reach and popularity were in the millions

I may be speaking too soon when I say this, but in this community Yaba and FFG seem to be the only ones who manage to swing out from the cycle, however close they may get to that line to crossover to lolcow

Even though I normally can't stand watching FFG, I resorted to watching her when Yaba was out recently to deal with her family matters. At first, I was annoyed and was like oh right this is why I don't watch the banshee. But as the week went on, I came to understand why she has such strong, unwavering support despite all the criticisms. Whether the criticism be valid ones or not valid ones that are motivated by jealousy of her financial success, FFG basically ignores them. Even if it can be jarring or hurtful that she refuses to listen to even supporters' critical feedback, I will say it's incredibly refreshing to see. Because a creator not letting the preferences of a few means it's overall good for the group. This creator isn't afraid to lose supporters. This gives off authencity

Yaba was able to shrug off criticism before, jovially making jokes or being a good sport during a back-and-forth with a critic (this would often turn the foe into friend). Then she went through the cycle, where she became extremely reactionary and sensitive, most seen on Twitter. When she came out of the cycle and escaped the crossover to cow, she overcorrected and became too compliant to criticism. Yaba is afraid to lose supporters. Which sucks because the voice of the loud few are from dipshits. For example some dipshit must've told her "Oh my god" is offensive because you can hear her catch herself from saying it and say "gosh" instead and I don't know why but I can't stand that shit.

It just sounds so unnatural. And maybe because she wasn't like that before. Yaba was never afraid to lose supporters for how she acted or said. One example being her asking her chat to put a "1" if they've contacted Nader. Then she told her mods to block everyone who put a 1. That kind of savage shit isn't really there anymore

Not sure which way Sam is going to go. The FFG route, Yaba route, or cow route. This may be surprising but I actually like(d) Sam. So I am actually rooting for her. I hope she takes heed of the criticism about her disorganization/low effort/technical issues, because for real that's why I can't watch her, even though I keep trying to. The last times I tried, I was confused because I thought I accidentally clicked into a Callie react because Sam was just playing a video made by another creator and not saying a single word. For stretches of 10+ minutes at a time

I hope she learns to stop publicly reacting and fishing for validation to justify her chimp outs (Twitter, the whole cringe Arby's nickname shit). Even if the whole DC Hussy legal shit is over, Negz is a great cow. She has plenty of material and she should focus on that because no one cares about her other bullshit
 
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See sam, the respect your want comes from the work then let the work speak for you in every spectrum of everything you cover. While your work with won won is praised to a degree due to ron being that cow that never stops delivering idiocy after idiocy.

But it doesn't extend much to ATX mainly because of ATX is not a constant cow that can delivers funny idiocy. Even with the other collection within the ho council as I call them (moxie, paula and other women I can't remember their names) that bunch can't deliver much of an interest either. If they by any point expand to other places and they do stupid shit that gives a laugh then they get more attention but they won't as the only time one of the hos did. I laughed at her much like atx briefly in moron's (tragic's) thread.

That said, the trisha interviews were ok. Some stuff can be hit now and some can be later. Point is, let the work speak for itself.
 
Do people not realize that the Farms is not a consortium? People have a place to voice their opinions and observations about whatever. There is no attempt at consensus. One does not speak for all.

If the majority of opinions/observations here were going against something I said or did, I would do a little self-examination. There are a lot of observant and smart people here...

Sometimes we can learn something. If not, move along.

But don't take it so seriously.
 
Do people not realize that the Farms is not a consortium? People have a place to voice their opinions and observations about whatever. There is no attempt at consensus. One does not speak for all.

If the majority of opinions/observations here were going against something I said or did, I would do a little self-examination. There are a lot of observant and smart people here...

Sometimes we can learn something. If not, move along.

But don't take it so seriously.
ive heard way to many people speak on the farms as if we are an all powerful omniscient hive mind that can be used to scare children into behaving, bitches need to calm the fuck down, every section seems to have its own etiquette to the point that sometimes you feel like it's a totally different website. Most of us are here to shit talk, often our opinions change and SOMETIMES WE EVEN GET THINGS WRONG! Difference is here we correct our mistakes or risk mass ridicule and a wave of retarded stickers. A valued few may have achieved the level of autism that allows for doxing from hotel sheets but majority are just happy to laugh at the cows and post an occasional ss.
 
In theory, the farms' users are the perfect audience because most of the time they are self-aware, balanced but loyal audiences. However, it can be the most brutal, if you look at people like Rekeita who went against the cow tenants, the audience turned on him so quickly. I would say what most users expect is that you have some level of awareness and pull back when necessary.

The issue with a lot of the big users is they will happily take the archives or key theories on the farms. In the end, it is people's time here, and saying thank you acknowledges it. In tandem though these people need to realize that they are not sycophantic we aren't like Steph and it is not a collective either like said sycophantic audience.

There is a certain point where you cannot course correct and Sam is hurtling really close to that.
 
Jesus Christ, Sam, chill out.

Our criticism carries no fiat. Bitching when we think your content is lacking or tuning out when we aren’t interested isn’t a de facto demand that you must change what you are doing and even if it was it's not like it's legally enforceable. Why are you acting like someone showed up with a court order demanding you make immediate changes just because a few people here have been very critical of you? Most of us don't dislike you and for many of us the things others dislike about you - your obsessiveness, your single-mindedness, your bombastic delivery - are the things we like the most.

I don't think Sam is much like Ron in any regard but I will say Ron is a little bitch who falls apart at every sort of criticism and lashes out like a fool when he has a sad or mad. In this regard I can kind of see the resemblance if I squint a bit.
 
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