2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

But it was everybody else's job to keep you from being genocided by sandniggers in all those other wars? What are those US ships doing protecting Israel from getting shit on by cruise missiles if it's not anybody's job to help anybody else?

Lol. Lmao.

Out of the missiles, some were intercepted by the US Navy, at least one was crashed/shot down in Jordan, and Israel intercepted at least one.

Also, when did Israel need help with keeping them from being genocided by sandniggers? Israel got munitions resupply in 1973 but by that point they already turned the tide against the Arabs and their Soviet handlers. They absolutely crushed it in 67, and there was no major foreign support in 48. And lol at thinking the Arabs are jumping into this now.
 
Out of the missiles, some were intercepted by the US Navy
So Israel is being kept safe by the US. If you're actually trying to argue this while admitting it's true at the same time you're probably the dumbest gorilla nigger I've seen on this forum. The only reason Israel isn't something we bring up to make fun of every now and then is the fact that the US would love nothing more than to go to war for it and, per your own admission, helped it before.

Anybody who downplays ammunition supplies because "the tide was already turning anyway!" shouldn't be speaking about wars.

PS: Where are those SAM missiles coming from, bro? Does Israel make them?
 
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Fuck off, ZOG. Some people came to this place, because they were sick of Jew worship, you fucking pozzed retard. The fuck you talking about glory? Turns out I could have been using Yahoo or some other faggot forum if I wanted to read these generic pro-Israel takes.
Stupid Goyim, Null and kiwi farms are Israel assets.
 
Recap of the situation, relatively balanced with focus on Israeli losses.



According to this Hamas has attempted to target gatherings of Israeli soldiers with rockets which I was wondering about before.
IMO Israel is doing what they need to do if their objectives are to destroy Hamas, they are close to completely cutting off the city but there are obviously probable tunnels in the area they are cutting off which they will have to deal with before they tighten the noose on Hamas.
 
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Not wanting to be outdone in the gay propaganda contest, Israelis have set up 240 beds in Tel Aviv, to represent the hostages taken last month
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Hamas peek-a-boo player getting really fucking ballsy with a tank
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Years of playing Battlefield have finally paid off. IEDing tanks and hitting them with C4 to get the enemy to waste their anti-tank shield, then following up with a rocket is premium videogame tactic. Still surreal as fuck to see people doing this absolutely insane shit in real life.
 
they won't matter in a generation or two because Reform jews are not having any kids they're or having kids with goyim.
you are mistaken.
they might not have children themselves, but their ideology still survives and expands because they spread it to other peoples children.

Retards here will rightfully whine about sandniggers in their countries all day long but then cheer while Israel forces them out of their own country and outright plans to force them to leave for Europe if Egypt doesn't just accept a gorillion rapefugees themselves

It's incredible how people will endlessly flagellate themselves and their countries, all for the sake of Israel. I'm convinced that a lot of people would straight up not mind getting drafted for another sandpit war as long as they could fight for Goldstein & Goldberg. I'm sure the based joos are just going to genocide all the muslims though and you're totally not going to have to deal with them chimping out later :story:
subhumans flood into europe completely independent of any particular war or crisis. if it isn't "the jews are genociding us let us in!" then it's just one of the hundreds of other sob stories.
>assad is gassing us! let us in!
>climate change! let us in!
>economic inequality! let us in!
>ayatollah is persecuting us! let us in!
>boko haram is hunting us! let us in!
>afwerki is oppressing us! let us in!
>siad barre collapsed out state! let us in!
>abiy ahmed is a tyrant! let us in!
the list of reasons, justifications and excuses is infinite, and all are equally worthless. the one and only reason that matters is euro governments actively opening the borders and inviting them in. that's the one and only issue worth caring about for anyone opposed to the invasion, because that's the one and only thing that, when corrected, can actually change anything.
 
are female rabbis even a thing? i think serious jews (the ones who grow beards and wear hats) don't allow that, and i can't imagine they'd allow some trannoid to become rabbi either
Traditionally, no. Rabbis are supposed to be male and the vast majority of religious Jewish temples only have males in the role. Those religious temples also would not acknowledge the troon specimen above to be female anyway. More info below but I spoilered it since most people don’t give a fuck about Jewish gender rules in a war thread:
Female rabbis are becoming more common with reform temples but are extremely uncommon and generally forbidden among the religious Orthodox. An itty bitty minority of more modern liberal orthodox temples (usually ones in big blue cities) have allowed it to happen a handful of times, but that’s extremely rare.

Also, those religious Jews would see the bearded lady “rabbi” above as a dude either way. I do not know a single Orthodox Jew who believes in or approves of the concept of troonery.

This line of an article breaks it down best “Genesis 1:27 declares (in English translation): ‘Male and female, He Created them.’ The following chapter explains that male and female were Created together, and then separated so that husband and wife might rejoin, once again becoming ‘one flesh’ through the forming of their offspring.”
Meaning males = the ones with functioning penises and sperm, females = the ones with functioning vaginas/uteruses and eggs. And no, gender reassignment surgery would not change this. Jews are told their purpose is to procreate. “Be fruitful and multiply” is a huge thing amongst religious Jews as is “not wasting the seed”. Castration is explicitly banned. So no religious Jews following actual Jewish law would ever advocate for a dude chopping his balls off and inverting his dick into a stinkditch.
Ancient Judaism did recognize the outliers who had reproductive deformities, infertility, visually ambiguous genitalia, etc through no fault of their own, and it didn’t hate on them. But there is zero religious backing for dudes to put on a dress and declare themselves ladies. In fact, Orthodox Jews are so aware of, and serious about, the difference between the two sexes that they literally have them seated separately at temple. Orthodox Jews don’t even believe gay sex is permissible, so their stance on troons isn’t surprising.

The only Jews who encourage female rabbis, gay shit, and the acceptance of troonery are pretty much just secular and reform Jews. And most the religious ones barely even recognize reforms as being “real Jews” anyway.
 
you are mistaken.
they might not have children themselves, but their ideology still survives and expands because they spread it to other peoples children.


subhumans flood into europe completely independent of any particular war or crisis. if it isn't "the jews are genociding us let us in!" then it's just one of the hundreds of other sob stories.
>assad is gassing us! let us in!
>climate change! let us in!
>economic inequality! let us in!
>ayatollah is persecuting us! let us in!
>boko haram is hunting us! let us in!
>afwerki is oppressing us! let us in!
>siad barre collapsed out state! let us in!
>abiy ahmed is a tyrant! let us in!
the list of reasons, justifications and excuses is infinite, and all are equally worthless. the one and only reason that matters is euro governments actively opening the borders and inviting them in. that's the one and only issue worth caring about for anyone opposed to the invasion, because that's the one and only thing that, when corrected, can actually change anything.
The borders aren't open, they are more closed than they have ever been in the history of Europe. The problem is that the people who run this world destabilized the middle east so that the countries that surround Europe are now themselves failed states, which they weren't before. Libya being the main inlet.

Before all these Arab states would police their borders and thus our borders for us, now immigrants just cross through these failed states and then get on boats. International maritime law and international law in regards to asylum seeking means we are forced to take them in when they deflate their own boats. In addition to this the same people that set things in motion also fund NGO's that not only rescue these people but in some cases literally transport them from the shores of Africa and Syria to our shores. All this is possible because instead of the first country of entry being Libya, the first country of entry is Italy because Libya doesn't count anymore because it's a failed state.


We can't stop these NGO's because we wouldn't be "democratic" and the only thing that is keeping the liberal hivemind from focusing on actual, real issues in our own countries which includes the general collapse of our civilization and culture is the fact that they think of themselves as the "good guys" and that they are in "democratic" countries that "protect human rights". It's also what gives us the legitimacy to support Ukraine and expand Nato and do our other foreign policy shenanigans.

The reasons aren't worthless, they tie well into each other and are somewhat watertight. Anyone trying to reform one part of the system shat on by the rest of the system. Everything ties in with everything. It's just like that Finnish doctor (Riittakerttu Kaltiala) who is trying to warn about kids trooning out in her country and stop it. She's not being accused of being a simple transphobe, she is a tool for the far-right and a threat to human rights.

Or take Sahra Wagenknecht, a radical socialist who wrote a book criticizing immigration as something that dumps wages, destroys the welfarestate and pits people against each other. She was told to leave her party, had food thrown at her, called a fascist, etc.



People no longer can work on a single issue, because they get attacked by the whole system.
Yeah, I'm just waiting for you to take power by screaming "fuck all niggers, kick the muzzies to the sea". Or if you're American, good luck. Those borders are far more open than ours and you have NO idea how many illegals are coming in, you don't even register them.



The point is the "globalists" for a lack of a better word are winning. They are winning everywhere. Everyone are getting displaced, both internally in countries and internationally.
 
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So Israel is being kept safe by the US. If you're actually trying to argue this while admitting it's true at the same time you're probably the dumbest gorilla nigger I've seen on this forum. The only reason Israel isn't something we bring up to make fun of every now and then is the fact that the US would love nothing more than to go to war for it and, per your own admission, helped it before.

I just find it hilarious you think the US Navy knocking out a cruise missile or two means that Israel needed that assistance (as they've shot down these types of missiles themselves). I suppose Jordan maybe or maybe not shooting down one of these missiles is also proof that Israel totally needs Jordan in the current conflict to protect against Yemeni rebels?

What's stopping the US from going to war for Israel at this very moment? Plenty of US bases have been hit by fire from Iran proxies over the last few weeks, yet so far, nothing. The US has had plenty of strikes that could have triggered a more active involvement in the conflict.


Anybody who downplays ammunition supplies because "the tide was already turning anyway!" shouldn't be speaking about wars.

PS: Where are those SAM missiles coming from, bro? Does Israel make them?

Except the Soviets had to do the same with the Arabs in 73. I don't see why this is somehow unique to Israel.

The missiles are made by Raytheon. I'm fully aware of how the US likes to subsidize it's MIC through Israeli "military aid".
 
The borders aren't open, they are more closed than they have ever been in the history of Europe. The problem is that the people who run this world destabilized the middle east so that the countries that surround Europe are now themselves failed states, which they weren't before. Libya being the main inlet.

Before all these Arab states would police their borders and thus our borders for us, now immigrants just cross through these failed states and then get on boats. International maritime law and international law in regards to asylum seeking means we are forced to take them in when they deflate their own boats. In addition to this the same people that set things in motion also fund NGO's that not only rescue these people but in some cases literally transport them from the shores of Africa and Syria to our shores. All this is possible because instead of the first country of entry being Libya, the first country of entry is Italy because Libya doesn't count anymore because it's a failed state.


We can't stop these NGO's because we wouldn't be "democratic" and the only thing that is keeping the liberal hivemind from focusing on actual, real issues in our own countries which includes the general collapse of our civilization and culture is the fact that they think of themselves as the "good guys" and that they are in "democratic" countries that "protect human rights". It's also what gives us the legitimacy to support Ukraine and expand Nato and do our other foreign policy shenanigans.

The reasons aren't worthless, they tie well into each other and are somewhat watertight. Anyone trying to reform one part of the system shat on by the rest of the system. Everything ties in with everything. It's just like that Finnish doctor who is trying to warn about kids trooning out in her country and stop it. She's not being accused of being a simple transphobe, she is a tool for the far-right and a threat to human rights.

Or take Sahra Wagenknecht, a radical socialist who wrote a book criticizing immigration as something that dumps wages, destroys the welfarestate and pits people against each other. She was told to leave her party, had food thrown at her, called a fascist, etc.



People no longer can work on a single issue, because they get attacked by the whole system.
Yeah, I'm just waiting for you to take power by screaming "fuck all niggers, kick the muzzies to the sea". Or if you're American, good luck. Your borders are far more open than ours and you have NO idea how many illegals are coming in, you don't even register them.
you have eaten up and are perpetuating enemy propaganda hook, line and sinker.
what exactly is stopping italy and greece from actually enforcing their borders and pushing every single trespasser back across the sea into the country from where they set sail to europe? lack of political will among the elites that rule these countries, and by extension lack of political will among the elites that rule in brussels and other EU capitals. that is all.
if the european states decided today to have their navies and coast guards intercept and push back every single ship carrying refugees, there is no foreign power in the region that could stop them from doing this. they don't do it because they don't want to do it, end of story, everything else just amounts to excuses.
"but muh laws, muh constitutions, muh human rights" these ruling parties control executive, legislative and judicial power. they can change laws and constitutions. why do they not do it? becausae, again, THEY DO NOT WANT TO. that is what it all boils down to, nothing else matters. where there's a will, there's a way, always.
 
I just find it hilarious you think the US Navy knocking out a cruise missile or two means that Israel needed that assistance (as they've shot down these types of missiles themselves).
So Israel can't defend itself against cruise missiles without the help of US ships, but this doesn't mean that Israel needs assistance? Well yes, if they want to they can just let them drop wherever they want. Tell me, even if they could 100% shoot down all the cruise missiles directed at them (which is likely not true, no nation can do this), who's supplying them with the SAM missiles to do so, and therefore, providing them with assistance they need?

What's stopping the US from going to war for Israel at this very moment? Plenty of US bases have been hit by fire from Iran proxies over the last few weeks, yet so far, nothing. The US has had plenty of strikes that could have triggered a more active involvement in the conflict.
Public opinion has shifted and even in the right you now see people who don't mindlessly slurp down whatever Israel decides is true, even if boomer politicians have not realized it yet. The left in particular absolutely despises Israel because of muh sandnigs so it'd be political suicide for Biden to intervene even more than he already is.

By the way, let's be clear here, the US is 100% already at war for Israel. When you aren't at war for a country, you don't shoot down missiles directed at it (see Ukraine, even though the US has ships, AWACs and jets near their borders, they sure as fuck aren't going to be ballsy enough to shoot down a Russian missile headed for Ukrainian ground, because that's a war declaration).
Except the Soviets had to do the same with the Arabs in 73. I don't see why this is somehow unique to Israel.
But I never claimed the Arabs didn't need the Soviets to survive or that they had received help, while you claimed the US never helped Israel anyway, then said they did help but it didn't matter.
 
you have eaten up and are perpetuating enemy propaganda hook, line and sinker.
what exactly is stopping italy and greece from actually enforcing their borders and pushing every single trespasser back across the sea into the country from where they set sail to europe? lack of political will among the elites that rule these countries, and by extension lack of political will among the elites that rule in brussels and other EU capitals. that is all.
if the european states decided today to have their navies and coast guards intercept and push back every single ship carrying refugees, there is no foreign power in the region that could stop them from doing this. they don't do it because they don't want to do it, end of story, everything else just amounts to excuses.
"but muh laws, muh constitutions, muh human rights" these ruling parties control executive, legislative and judicial power. they can change laws and constitutions. why do they not do it? becausae, again, THEY DO NOT WANT TO. that is what it all boils down to, nothing else matters. where there's a will, there's a way, always.

@DumbDude43
I just told you what's stoping them. Read nigger, that's what you accuse the blackies of not being able to do.
Internally what's stoping them is that moving on any part of the system makes you an enemy of "liberal democracy", "human rights" and so forth that the powers that be use to distract the population with nowdays.
Internationally what's stoping any politician with huge balls would be international law. Maritime law and laws on asylum seekers; CONVENTIONS we have signed.


Now yes, in your fantasy world if "everyone" suddenly "decided" not to follow this in Europe and to show that the emperor has no clothes and that the system is a sham, yeah things would change. But that ain't happening because most of all who matter among the "everyone" are tied in to the system.

Because if they speak up they lose their jobs in the media or government or business. I gave you two examples already.
Because if they speak up they get told to leave their political parties, that they are a threat.
Because if they speak up they get censored on their social media profiles and don't get invited to speak on TV and Radio shows.

And when this happens, as in the two examples I gave you, it often happens in isolated examples and the system then as a whole comes crashing down on that person.

Yes, "They" do not want to, because they have too much to lose. Because "they" are tied to *them*.
All your screetching and seething won't change anything.



Nobody brings this stuff to the table, everyone are afraid. Where are people like you in real life? I'm currently doing extra studies in robotics and I have to fucking deal with people in my group who want to discuss gender issues and how they pertain to robots - are there too many male like robots as compared to female like robots.

This is what they have been told to do, to think, and they will work for this and their jobs will have this as a component and if you start telling them to change it means they have to abandon all that which they have built up. Like in the fucking Matrix, when someone gets pulled, everyone else are still in the Matrix.

Most people, even when they get a glimpse of it just want to go back to eating steak:


So unless you have A LOT TO LOSE, all your whining isn't worth shit. Once you and or rather people with a lot to lose are ready to give it up, then maybe it will change. But I doubt it, I think the enemy wins. And like @Givi said, Israel is deep inside the nexus of shit in so many ways you can't just support its actions in a vacuum and then say "Oh but the elites could stop those migrants if they wanted to."

THEY AIN'T. So if you don't want a completely destroyed society you have to look for little victories you can actually attain.
 
Lol. Lmao.

Out of the missiles, some were intercepted by the US Navy, at least one was crashed/shot down in Jordan, and Israel intercepted at least one.

Also, when did Israel need help with keeping them from being genocided by sandniggers? Israel got munitions resupply in 1973 but by that point they already turned the tide against the Arabs and their Soviet handlers. They absolutely crushed it in 67, and there was no major foreign support in 48. And lol at thinking the Arabs are jumping into this now.
In no particular order,

* hundreds of billions of US dollars in aid, the highest of any nation on Earth (including Ukraine, at least so far)
* billions of dollars every year since 1979 to bribe Israel's neighbors to stay friendly
* multiple aircraft carriers in the area threatening war against anyone who intervenes
* unconditional backing in the UN providing a permanent veto to any negative security council resolutions
* constant resupply of munitions
* free missile interceptions across the region, including in otherwise hostile countries (not all of which are going to be reported in the news)

Don't give me this "the IDF doesn't need America!" bullshit. If America suddenly decided to fuck off and let Israel prove how tough it is alone the Israelis would suddenly discover that some of their most basic munitions, including the bombs they're using to flatten Gaza, aren't produced by their vaunted military industrial complex. Even if you assume the Arabs are as inept and cowardly as you thought they were on Oct 6, Israel would find itself in the place of Rhodesia, diplomatically isolated and totally outnumbered. The Rhodesians could achieve kill ratios of over 100 to 1 but they still lost, and those were actual armed insurgents beaten with impressive infantry and helicopter tactics instead of random civilians flattened by airpower. The IDF's kill ratio is far worse, and the demographics only continue to favour the Arabs.

Frankly, it isn't clear that the IDF could even handle Hezbollah alone, never mind Hezbollah plus Iran, Iraq and Syria. This isn't the same army that won in '48 or '67, they're all retired. The current IDF has spent the last twenty years fighting a low level, poorly armed insurgency that they could afford to slack against, and the one time they fought a "real" war in 2006 it ended in total humiliation.
 
But I never claimed the Arabs didn't need the Soviets to survive or that they had received help, while you claimed the US never helped Israel anyway, then said they did help but it didn't matter.

You claimed that Israel "But it was everybody else's job to keep you from being genocided by sandniggers in all those other wars?"

The only war you can even point to that comes even close is the 1973 Yom Kippur War, and by the time US resupply kicked into gear (around Oct 12-13), the tide was already turning against Arab retards and their Soviet puppetmasters, and the Soviets had to start resupplying Arabs even before the US started to resupply Israel.

So Israel can't defend itself against cruise missiles without the help of US ships, but this doesn't mean that Israel needs assistance? Well yes, if they want to they can just let them drop wherever they want. Tell me, even if they could 100% shoot down all the cruise missiles directed at them (which is likely not true, no nation can do this), who's supplying them with the SAM missiles to do so, and therefore, providing them with assistance they need?

Again, the US likes keeping it's MIC happy with Israeli "military aid". It's known. Not a shock in the slightest.

As for the US Navy, seemingly the US Navy, somewhere in the Red Sea, shot down both missiles and drones that were "potentially" going to Israel, according to the Pentagon.


So, a few things. First, this assumes that the "potentially going to Israel" isn't just a cover for the US to not escalate things by stating their own ships were fired upon. Considering other Iranian proxies have struck US bases around the Middle East, it isn't impossible that the same occurred here, but the US claimed they just coincidentally were in range to detect and shoot down both drones and missiles going towards Israel.

Second, so far, every cruise missile allegedly fired from Yemen has either been shot down, or failed to hit Israel. One crashing/being shot down in Jordan, whatever the US dealt with, and at least one by Israel itself. Theoretically that explosion in Egypt a few days back could have been another Yemeni missile. Maybe the Iranian supplied missiles to Yemen are really going to show their worth soon, though.

I don't see how the US navy maybe or maybe not shooting missiles/drones that totally were going to Israel somehow means that Israel was totally fucked without it.
 
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