2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

I'm seeing statistic thrown around claiming that Israel has already killed more civillians than Russia has in its 2 years of invasion.
Any confirmations of that?

Problem is with this is the people counting "civilian deaths" have a vested interest to make sure that number looks as high as possible. Plus, so far, I haven't heard Hamas share any information on any dead Hamas militants throughout the conflict.

Earlier in this thread though, the list of dead by the Gazan Health Ministry also had Hamas fighters listed alongside civilians.

Basically, it might be possible but who the fuck knows?
 
The plan is going to be to place Gaza under siege, make it as unlivable as possible to force as any many civilians flee to Egypt/Europe as possible.
Probably won't be doable in a single go, but the more the reduce the population of Gaza, the less strength hamas will have to draw on.
So, what are they going to do once Gaza becomes an empty field with rubble? Occupy the land and turn it into Israel territory? Hamas are helping Israel accomplish what they always wanted. More dominance over Palestine. Israel pretty much have full support of the UN and the entire western world to secure Gaza and kick any muslim out of the land.
More rapefugees fleeing to Europe, more land to Israel.

Funny how things go.
 
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Just read an article about the Palestinians with Israeli work permits who were in Israel when shit hit the fan and ended up stuck there being interrogated for a while after. It’s from a pretty biased source so who knows if the allegations are legit. My favorite part is the guy who claims that Israeli boys R Kelly’d him lmao
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Full article here if anyone cares.
(Side note: the Israeli explanation for holding them there was that allegedly several of the Hamas attackers on the 7th actually held israeli work permits and it’s believed Hamas got their maps of targets and intel on the population of the kibbutzes from other permitted workers who basically cased the area and reported back. So they interrogated all permitted workers who were in Israel at the time to see if any were Hamas affiliated and had info on where hostages were being kept.)
 
I didn't see it mentioned here, but in the morning the Israeli minister of Heritage (a fucking useless position mind you) said on radio that using the nuke is "not out of the question". This is absolutely insane and no one is agreeing with that retard.
This messes our optics and everyone called him out on it. Netanyahu suspended him "until further notice". [a] He gave the excuse that it was "metaphorical". No one is buying it.

These are the retards that were voted in. Do you understand why we had so much turmoil over the past year?

Here's the recording:
 
Large barrage at central Israel:
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So are they just playing real life GTA now? Why would you waste an RPG on some guy in his car if not just for the funsies? They can't be cheap.
It is for the funsies. Like Hamas, their goal is to kill as many Israelis as possible, and I'm sure they've got plenty of RPGs to spare. They don't view it as a waste.

Also, Hezbollah is desperate at this point for any accomplishment that they can spin to their fan base as a victory over the Zionists. For the past few weeks they've been sending dozens of fighters to their deaths against the IDF with nothing to show for it other than a few damaged antennas and burnt cars in Kiryat Shemona. If they can kill a random Israeli driver, that's better than nothing.

Gaza tonight:
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Hateful, spoiled little weasels.

If you act like a shit stain expect to be wiped out.
Basically, this. You are entitled to your own views, as reprehensible as they are.

In the US, the supreme court does rule that there is no public expectation for privacy, so you can be filmed without consent (social media does have different rules though),

but the bottom line is, fuck around and find out. If you want to just relax and eat a bagel, don't go tearing down people's posters? Its seriously so retarded. The moment you engage in something like this, expect consequences.

The left has gotten away with fucking around for far too long, and having zero consequences, that when there actually are consequences (and this time, they can't be swept under the rug because the guy yelling at them is Jewish), they have no legitimate response and just don't know how to react.
 
I'm seeing statistic thrown around claiming that Israel has already killed more civillians than Russia has in its 2 years of invasion.
Any confirmations of that?
I highly doubt that Israel have managed to kill more civillians than Russia have done.
Remember, it took days even weeks before Israel had stopped counting and ID the bodies from the terror attack (they are still doing it to my knowledge).
Hamas will fudged the numbers. They will also claim that hamas fighter #1488 was a civilian.
 
Legit wondering what's Israel plan is regarding Gaza.
They sure must know Hamas will never surrender. They aren't an organized military group. They are just a group of smelly radicals who recruit any degenerate they come across.
And it's not like Gaza and its officials can do anything either. They have no authority on Hamas, they can't just say "hey, just cut it out you rascals".
The plan is to continue to bomb Gaza till there is literally zero palestines standing? Complete genocide of every single muslim? Because all the bombing, all the attacks seem arbitrary.
Just shooting shit as retaliation.
my guess is that they plan to achieve full military occupation, then use military police + shin bet + mossad to find and detain everybody who held any significant position in hamas. this effectively ends hamas as an organisation in gaza, the remaining leaders in qatar would be irrelevant because they would no longer hold any power or influence over what happens on the ground.
 
Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and the Taliban regularly used mosques in Iraq and Afghanistan to store weapons and launch attacks. Early in the war, US troops would shoot back. Jewish NGOs stepped in, sued a shitload of people, and forced us to stop. Shooting into a mosque was a war crime, and if anyone got caught doing it, Berg and Stein would come in and fuck your day up. Members of those muslim groups would sometimes get captured and end up being brought to America to be tried. The second they were in US custody, a Jewish NGO would send in a team of big dick lawyers to protect them for free. Was a prisoner deprived of his prayer beads or his Qaran for a few hours? Jewish NGO lawsuit. Was a prisoner given an non-halal meal? Jewish NGO lawsuit. They even lobbied the pentagon every time a US soldier didn't get annihilated for breaking laws in a war zone to the point where entire units were unwilling to engage in combat without getting getting orders from a higher up to do so.

I don't hate Jews for their beliefs and I don't hate Israel for existing. I hate them because they project ideals onto others with extreme prejudice while violating every one of their own principals when it comes to defending Jews. If you point out the hypocrisy, consider your career and social life over. If you aren't a Jew, your blood being spilled means nothing, and if you are a Jew, the world should spill it's blood before you spill yours.

I'm not saying militant Muslims are any more moral, but at least they're not pretending to be our friends. Western society has no allies in this war.
 
Legit wondering what's Israel plan is regarding Gaza.
They sure must know Hamas will never surrender. They aren't an organized military group. They are just a group of smelly radicals who recruit any degenerate they come across.
And it's not like Gaza and its officials can do anything either. They have no authority on Hamas, they can't just say "hey, just cut it out you rascals".
You don't need to kill every single Hamas member. Destroying their ability to function as a viable military force or governing authority so they're functionally dismantled is what they're probably aiming for
 
I agree that the farthest left "jews" aka cultural jews (atheist retards) won't change, because those Quisling-steins are proudly supporting Hamas and reposting BLM content 24/7. But this is only a small fraction of Jewish Americans.

So I strongly disagree that all Jews on the left will stay there. Most aren't that extreme - just look at the numbers from Democrat primaries and recent presidential elections: as a voting bloc they tend to vote for the Dem closest to the center. At the very least, this has brought the vast majority of them closer to the center. We may want a strong right wing government, and may not want to live in a centrist country, we do - and that's a lot better than living in a socialist country. Most of the people on the left supporting "palestinians" have their own religion, and it's not Judaism - it's anti-Westism.


I agree 100% see my much earlier post where I talk about a super lefty jewish family friend who is done with this lefty anti-jew shit.


Totally agree. I am in DC right now, and I would say the demo of the crowds I saw on their way to their Jihad festival yesterday was 80% arab, 15% black, 5% fat white chicks and pale soyboys.
Do remember that of those 15% a good number of them are the nation of Islam type that outright hate jews and think their Muslims (fun fact other Muslims hate them and do not think they are Muslim). How many of those arabs are actual citizens?
 
I agree 100% see my much earlier post where I talk about a super lefty jewish family friend who is done with this lefty anti-jew shit.



Do remember that of those 15% a good number of them are the nation of Islam type that outright hate jews and think their Muslims (fun fact other Muslims hate them and do not think they are Muslim). How many of those arabs are actual citizens?
It's the niggers trying to bring attention to their own cause with sandniggers.

Same shit. Different label.
 
I heard some official said that nukes are a possible course of action to finish off Gaza. Are other countries involved in nuclear arms agreements obligated to take action (of any kind) if something were to happen :think:? I know international law agreements are just a formality.
 
I heard some official said that nukes are a possible course of action to finish off Gaza. Are other countries involved in nuclear arms agreements obligated to take action (of any kind) if something were to happen :think:? I know international law agreements are just a formality.
gaza has no formal alliances with any state so nobody is obligated to do anything.
however a move like that would annihilate any goodwill israel has with the rest of the world, leaving it completely isolated. even america most likely won't keep up its support if israel goes hiroshima on gaza.
 
Please storm into the White House right now. Please storm into the White House right now. Please storm into the White House right now.
It is the next day and they didn't, and I am pretty sure that it was actually a Psyop.

Edit: Not a Psyop, but I may happen today because it is still going on.
 
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