US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[General Emílio Médici]

[A bunch of retarded shit]

Dude the point people are making here isn't that Trump should have "played by the rules" or that "we need to lose with dignity" or any of that shit.

If we go back and actually pay attention to how this discussion started the point here is people pointing out that your claims that Trump should have just ignored how all his enemies had a dozen traps laid to and instead charged head first into the bait because the sheer righteousness of his actions would magically cause all of it to not work. We pointed out, REPEATEDLY, that that is not the case. If Trump had done as you claim he should unilaterally sending the NG to places like Minneapolis to shut down the Burn Loot Murder protests that would have made it trivially easy for the Deep State to remove him. Same with firing Fauci.

You instead keep ignoring this point, and insist anyone who isn't just agreeing is "blackpilled" and "perpetual loser".

 

[draggs]

Real "you won't let me take the car why do you want to ruin my life DAD, I HATE YOU" vibes in here. Dad doesn't want to ruin your life by refusing to give you the car keys tonight I mean refusing to send the Nasty Gurlz to machine gun niggers in Minneapolis lol

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

T-Bone has to have some staffer lurk here or Barron himself, and I am telling you to make sure at the RNC convention when he gives his acceptance speech play the Drums of Liberation with the cuts of his usual campaign videos as he walks through the dry ice to the podium. Either that song or Number One from Bleach.

I'm still horrified that a Gear Second pose made it to the 2021 Olympics. At this point I do not consider your presented scenario impossible.

 

[dustbuster]

Dude the point people are making here isn't that Trump should have "played by the rules" or that "we need to lose with dignity" or any of that shit.

You could certainly fool me having to wade through pages of that exact sentiment.

If we go back and actually pay attention to how this discussion started the point here is people pointing out that your claims that Trump should have just ignored how all his enemies had a dozen traps laid to and instead charged head first into the bait because the sheer righteousness of his actions would magically cause all of it to not work. We pointed out, REPEATEDLY, that that is not the case

I rest my case.
The left's "bait" and "traps" are to stand on the WRONG side of 80/20 issues, repeatedly, as if it's a valid position.
You ARE saying Trump should have played by the left's rules and frame, despite a rejection of the left's frame causing the "blue wall" along the great lakes to crumble in 2016. (I know exactly what is going on in their minds because I come from that region, and that political alignment!)

If Trump had done as you claim he should unilaterally sending the NG to places like Minneapolis to shut down the Burn Loot Murder protests that would have made it trivially easy for the Deep State to remove him. Same with firing Fauci.

"b-b-but if we actually advance on the enemy lines, they'll fire baaaack"

You instead keep ignoring this point

No, I address it head on, and then it keeps being posted here as if you're all editorial staff for the National Review.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

National Socialism is still socialism.
It is not right wing.
Don't believe me? Here's a vid of a bunch of antifa clapping for hitler quotes they don't know come from hitler:

Your evidence for why National Socialism is not right wing is showing a video of a bunch of far left people hearing Hitler quotes and agreeing with them? That's your evidence? Oh it has socialism in the name therefore it's left wing? well it also has national(ism) in the name and that's a right wing position so i guess if you combine the two the result is Hitler was a centrist?

 

[General Emílio Médici]

"b-b-but if we actually advance on the enemy lines, they'll fire baaaack"

You are demanding he advances into such lines with no backup, no artillery, no guns, no armor, no plan and no backup. The shit you propose is making WW1 French generals who sent their men in bright blue uniforms and red caps to march in Napoleonic lines against machine guns look good.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Your evidence for why National Socialism is not right wing is showing a video of a bunch of far left people hearing Hitler quotes and agreeing with them? That's your evidence? Oh it has socialism in the name therefore it's left wing? well it also has national(ism) in the name and that's a right wing position so i guess if you combine the two the result is Hitler was a centrist?

I mean, it kind of is "radical centrism". Wasn't it called third-path politics or something similar, even?

It's a weird spot in politics as much as nationalist, ethnic-focused communism is, in that it's not something that slots easily into the left/right paradigm. I've said the "Nationalist Socialism is a left-wing ideology" line myself before but mainly to piss off people, not as an accurate statement of fact or my actual opinion on it as an ideology.

 

[dustbuster]

You are demanding he advances into such lines with no backup, no artillery, no guns, no armor, no plan and no backup.

He doesn't need any of that shit.
When the "lines" are the left defending the burning of black neighborhoods or the demand that 50 year old men be allowed to join girls' little league teams, all that is required is to refuse to respect their frame, stomp all over it, and receive the cheers of the 80% who are NOT insane.

Trump's popularity vastly decreased in the rust belt when he fired Banon and started taking advice from Ryan, and it never recovered, because he ceased to maintain the strong hand on which he was elected.

French generals who sent their men in bright blue uniforms and red caps to march in Napoleonic lines against machine guns look good.

French generals who send their men in bright blue uniforms and red caps to march in Napoleonic lines against primitives throwing spears, rather than cowering, saying "oh no those look sharp!" win.

Your evidence for why National Socialism is not right wing is showing a video of a bunch of far left people hearing Hitler quotes and agreeing with them?

And where those quotes are hitler saying "we are socialists" and demanding socialist policies?
YES, YES IT IS MY EVIDENCE

 

[General Emílio Médici]

I remember when Trump ordered American Troops removed from the Middle East.

Miley and company lied about it and said they brought them home. They hadn't, they hid the troops and just refused to comply. We only learned this later.

What makes you think Trump ordering the Insurection Act activated would do? They would deny. And then they would insist he doesn't have the power and pivot to show it as him trying to kill everyone who isn't a supporter of his, and they would impeach him for it.

That is why he offered to send the NG to anyone who asked. It forced them to swallow the BLM chimp outs to spite him. And it would have worked perfectly well, but then the election was "fortified".

 

[dustbuster]

What makes you think Trump ordering the Insurection Act activated would do?

Who said he had to use the insurrection act?
Rolling in troops to restore order does not require the insurrection act.
Heck, water cannons and rubber ammo rather than live would have gotten it done.
Camp the troops in flashpoint areas to secure them, done.

They would deny.

It's a lot harder to hide insubordination and treason when the failure to act means domestic cities burn.

That is why he offered to send the NG to anyone who asked. It forced them to swallow the BLM chimp outs to spite him.

It created an image of lawlessness and impotence that cost him a lot of swing voters, and the black neighborhoods directly impacted lost 10 times what they gained from his economic policies due to that stupidity.

When your electoral strategy counts on cleaving a certain percentage off the urban voting blocs, leaving them to the hands of violent mobs is just a non-starter.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

Local Kiwi criticizes Trump for not gunning people down in the streets, news at 11

 

[dustbuster]

Local Kiwi criticizes Trump for not gunning people down in the streets, news at 11

Common riot control gear for NG is water canons, rubber bullets, bean bags, and lots of personnel, not lethal rounds.

 

[Absolutego]

I remember when Trump ordered American Troops removed from the Middle East.

Miley and company lied about it and said they brought them home. They hadn't, they hid the troops and just refused to comply. We only learned this later.

What makes you think Trump ordering the Insurection Act activated would do? They would deny. And then they would insist he doesn't have the power and pivot to show it as him trying to kill everyone who isn't a supporter of his, and they would impeach him for it.

That is why he offered to send the NG to anyone who asked. It forced them to swallow the BLM chimp outs to spite him. And it would have worked perfectly well, but then the election was "fortified".

You're underselling how much the Military disobeyed direct orders once they demanded peace.
The Pentagon ginned up a whole fake intelligence scheme that there were bounties for killing American servicemen the Russians were offering that a) never manifested in Afghanis shooting US troops, and b) were never verified beyond DOD missives sent to CNN.

I bet you there are a couple dozen of DOD lifers really upset that Biden forced the Afghanistan withdrawal and they can't ruin him in the media because of his party affiliation.

 

[dustbuster]

The Pentagon ginned up a whole fake intelligence scheme that there were bounties for killing American servicemen the Russians were offering that a) never manifested in Afghanis shooting US troops, and b) were never verified beyond DOD missives sent to CNN.

Correction on this.
It is not "disobeying orders" because they were never explicitly ordered not to do this.
It'd be difficult to call the conspiracy "seditious" either because it was aimed at a foreign nation.
This kind of disgusting rules-lawyering is what you get when you allow too much autonomy and tenure to an unelected executive position.

 

[The Ugly One]

Trump ordered the military to leave Syria, and they just...didn't. And lied about it.

 

[silverstacks]

As well as the "lets try and make chickens cheap" which permanently fucked up the taste of chicken (but made them fat and sassy and unhealthy to eat).

What exactly was this, and when did it happen?

 

[dustbuster]

Trump ordered the military to leave Syria, and they just...didn't. And lied about it.

Easier to hide things in Syria.
If Trump ordered the NG to restore order to a US city and they didn't, he'd know within hours.

What exactly was this, and when did it happen?

It was a selective breeding program to increase the meat on the bird and its laying capacity in the early 20th century.
Chickens were much more gamey before then.
(the short below was also ridiculed by mike and the bots on MST3K)

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

Man, Meatball's propaganda people just ain't what they used to be.

Edit:

@dustbuster

You a dumb faggot that's butthurt that everybody is calling you stupid.

Literally going through my post history to rate shit dumb.

 

[Weppers]

You're all stupid. Donald Trump could have just set up a command group for each major city and attack-moved the National Guard into the rioters! That's how armies work, retards.

 

[MrJokerRager]

You're all stupid. Donald Trump could have just set up a command group for each major city and attack-moved the National Guard into the rioters! That's how armies work, retards.

Donald Trump should have used white phosphorus on all of them.