Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

Well there's also the benefit of increasing the suffering of non-potato kids with an actual future, who are deprived of medical care for the benefit of these fucking worthless spuds being sustained at the cost of millions.

A lot of this so-called "Christian" bullshit comes from a deep level of sadism.
A lot of it is doctors just not wanting to face the music and help parents understand what it is going on. I think some doctors don't mean to give false hope, but it's really important if you have to do a rapid sequence intubation to talk to parents and have a plan in place if their child cannot tolerate being off the vent.

Never consent to the placement of a long term feeding tube if the patient is on the vent. Your child's heart and circulatory system will outlive your child's brain.
 
If the doctor is saying the kid is suffering, I assume he's probably right.
suffering seems to be all the kid is able to do, unresponsive to pretty much everything except the pain of the medical procidures being done to keep it in agony why the courts cross their t's and dot the i's

Parents have been vague saying "A mitochondrial disease" of which there are many but in the court documents while they don't disclose the full details of her illness they do reveal that there was a serious hydranencephaly resulting in significant brain damage and has a "a constellation of factors, interlocking co-morbidities and complex entwined problems,".

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Professor Khan who disclosed the hydrocephalus was an expert acting for the family who thinks they can cure the kid with a keto diet.
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suffering seems to be all the kid is able to do, unresponsive to pretty much everything except the pain of the medical procidures being done to keep it in agony why the courts cross their t's and dot the i's

Parents have been vague saying "A mitochondrial disease" of which there are many but in the court documents while they don't disclose the full details of her illness they do reveal that there was a serious hydranencephaly resulting in significant brain damage and has a "a constellation of factors, interlocking co-morbidities and complex entwined problems,".

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Professor Khan who disclosed the hydrocephalus was an expert acting for the family who thinks they can cure the kid with a keto diet.
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Damn, sounds like another Tinslee situation where the kid is only capable of feeling pain. I figured the parents were being intentionally vague with what all is wrong with her. Poor kid :(

No wonder the hospital wants to pull the plug and end her suffering.
 
I'm an idiot in the court documents it does give the name of the disease I just skimmed passed it because I expected a more complex name than "D2/L2"
Combined D-2- and L-2-hydroxyglutaric aciduria (D-2-HG and L-2-HG) is an autosomal recessive neurometabolic disorder characterized by neonatal-onset encephalopathy with severe muscular weakness, intractable seizures, respiratory distress, and lack of psychomotor development resulting in early death. Brain imaging shows abnormalities including enlarged ventricles, delayed myelination, and germinal layer cysts (summary by Muntau et al., 2000). See also isolated L-2-hydroxyglutaric aciduria (236792) and isolated D-2-hydroxyglutaric aciduria (see 600721). (615182) (Updated 29-Sep-2023)
Does the kid's family believe this? Whackos.
It helps in some less severe metabolic disorders.
 
Yeah I've heard of keto helping control seizures for some conditions, but I'd imagine this kid is too far gone for it to have any effect (and it sounds like the condition is always fatal anyway so at best it would probably just slow the progression in kids less far gone). In the court papers it sounds like even the doctor who recommended it no longer thinks it would do anything.
A lot of it is doctors just not wanting to face the music and help parents understand what it is going on. I think some doctors don't mean to give false hope, but it's really important if you have to do a rapid sequence intubation to talk to parents and have a plan in place if their child cannot tolerate being off the vent.
I remember in the short documentary on pediatric hospice posted here, the doctor in that said many doctors don't want to accept when a baby or young child is terminal and the best thing is palliative care only. It's understandable that even doctors would struggle with those tragic situations, but palliative care and hospice aren't bad words and are the best choice when the only other option is pointlessly prolonging the suffering of a child.

I don't think that's what any of these people would want for themselves if they were in this kids situation. I think most people would want to pass instead of just suffer indefinitely.
 
it sounds like the condition is always fatal anyway so at best it would probably just slow the progression in kids less far gone
2-hydroxyglutaric aciduria is a condition that causes progressive damage to the brain. The major types of this disorder are called D-2-hydroxyglutaric aciduria (D-2-HGA), L-2-hydroxyglutaric aciduria (L-2-HGA), and combined D,L-2-hydroxyglutaric aciduria (D,L-2-HGA).

The main features of D-2-HGA are delayed development, seizures, weak muscle tone (hypotonia), and abnormalities in the largest part of the brain (the cerebrum), which controls many important functions such as muscle movement, speech, vision, thinking, emotion, and memory. Researchers have described two subtypes of D-2-HGA, type I and type II. The two subtypes are distinguished by their genetic cause and pattern of inheritance, although they also have some differences in signs and symptoms. Type II tends to begin earlier and often causes more severe health problems than type I. Type II may also be associated with a weakened and enlarged heart (cardiomyopathy), a feature that is typically not found with type I.

L-2-HGA particularly affects a region of the brain called the cerebellum, which is involved in coordinating movements. As a result, many affected individuals have problems with balance and muscle coordination (ataxia). Additional features of L-2-HGA can include delayed development, seizures, speech difficulties, and an unusually large head (macrocephaly). Typically, signs and symptoms of this disorder begin during infancy or early childhood. The disorder worsens over time, usually leading to severe disability by early adulthood.

Combined D,L-2-HGA causes severe brain abnormalities that become apparent in early infancy. Affected infants have severe seizures, weak muscle tone (hypotonia), and breathing and feeding problems. They usually survive only into infancy or early childhood.

2-hydroxyglutaric aciduria is a rare disorder. D-2-HGA and L-2-HGA have each been reported to affect fewer than 150 individuals worldwide. Combined D,L-2-HGA appears to be even rarer, with only about a dozen reported cases.
I remember in the short documentary on pediatric hospice posted here, the doctor in that said many doctors don't want to accept when a baby or young child is terminal and the best thing is palliative care only. It's understandable that even doctors would struggle with those tragic situations, but palliative care and hospice aren't bad words and are the best choice when the only other option is pointlessly prolonging the suffering of a child.

I don't think that's what any of these people would want for themselves if they were in this kids situation. I think most people would want to pass instead of just suffer indefinitely.
This dumbass parents like Hollie and this kid's parents are severely in denial but know they look stupid denying palliative care for a hopeless condition, so they set up impossible demands like "die at home" when they are explained it's not possible in that case.
 
I'm a mother too, like many of you. I know we all probably think our kids are the most handsome/beautiful things in the world because they are ours, but I can't imagine giving birth to something so deformed and with absolutely no qaulity of life and then celebrating its prolonged existence.
I think part of it is the combo of very stupid people plus the way medical professionals communicate. Some people aren’t going to get it unless the doctor says “your child will never do anything but shit himself in terrible pain”. And then you’ve got the well-meaning nurses with “your baby knows you’re here! Your touch helps them stay calm” etc.

You wouldn’t expect someone with an 80 IQ to thrive in an office environment where “I’m a bit confused about your last email” means “You’re a fucking dumbass, straighten your shit out”. So they’re not going to be able to read between the lines from Dr. Former Kappa Kappa Gamma from Westchester.
 
I think part of it is the combo of very stupid people plus the way medical professionals communicate. Some people aren’t going to get it unless the doctor says “your child will never do anything but shit himself in terrible pain”. And then you’ve got the well-meaning nurses with “your baby knows you’re here! Your touch helps them stay calm” etc.
And when doctors are blunt about the prognosis of a kid with a catastrophic condition, they risk potato mom wrath like that doctor Gwen Hartley sent angry letters to every year her spuds were alive.

Wonder if she still does it? For old times sake.
 
I don't think that's what any of these people would want for themselves if they were in this kids situation. I think most people would want to pass instead of just suffer indefinitely.
You could ask.
And when doctors are blunt about the prognosis of a kid with a catastrophic condition, they risk potato mom wrath like that doctor Gwen Hartley sent angry letters to every year her spuds were alive.

Wonder if she still does it? For old times sake.
Lol if you think "potato mom wrath" is sending letters. Oh no, someone sent me a kind of mean letter saying I was wrong about their children dying!
 

It's true. She had literal millions in Vatican accounts, most of which ended up being used by the Vatican to settle its thousands of child-rape lawsuits. She often glorified the suffering of her charges, rather than actually- y'know - relieving it, saying it brought them "closer to god". Multiple studies and investigations confirm this.

She was no saint, she was a cult leader with great PR.
 
so they set up impossible demands like "die at home" when they are explained it's not possible in that case.
But why can't the baby die at home? Is she too dependent on stationary equipment? I tried to read up and there's too much bullshit on the online. I don't even understand what the parents want. Usually, when "dying at home" comes up, the choice is between dying (at home) and keeping the body on life support in the hospital. Sometimes a baby never leaves the hospital since birth and parents want to bring it home to emphasize it lived and was a part of the family, even for a short time. "Let's torture her some more in Italy" is the opposite of dying at home.
 
But why can't the baby die at home?
I don't know the intricacies of this particular case, but it's likely that she's simply too unstable to transport safely and could potentially die in transit.
Additionally, they would not be able to ventilate her at home so it would mean going through the process of transporting a very unwell child and then extubating her on arrival where she would promptly die. She wouldn't have any meaningful time at home.
 
The nun with a genius for PR who sent every dollar donated to her "hospital" straight to the Vatican so her "patients" could suffer like Christ and go to heaven?
Some of her wisdom:

"At times you come so close to Jesus on the cross that he can kiss you. I once told this to a lady who was suffering very much. She answered, 'Tell Jesus not to kiss me—to stop kissing me.' That suffering has to come that came in the life of Our Lady, that came in the life of Jesus—it has to come in our life also. Only never put on a long face. Suffering is gift from God."
 
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