Is Incest Bad

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So recently, with the growing popularity of the game The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, discussion around incest has spread on social media sites like Twitter, 4chan, etc., so the question is: is incest bad or should it be legal?
I'm personally opposed to it because of morals, but the only arguments I hear against it are either

1: It ruins your relationship with your sibling and
2 inbreeding

But in an era of birth control on demand, I'm not sure how inbreeding is the issue, and 1: it may vary based on siblings, so if you're not Christian and morally opposed like most western nations, what's the argument to keep it illegal?
 
It is just a matter of time.
Current day atheist morals say what makes sexual relationships okay or not is consent, and maybe real or imagined power dynamics.
Even with defective children, that actually opens up another can of worms, because disabled people, old mothers or the genetically ill are also at risk, if not more so, to produce disabled children that will be a drain on society. There, the state does not intervene in the slightest. The ban on incest is vestigial from a christian time of moral absolutism, if you compare it to other shit that is not just legal but celebrated now, it is just a matter of time until it is acceptable.

That's what moral relativism gets you.
 
The point about birth control is IMO completely moot. When I think about incest, (ironically) inbred rednecks fucking siblings and pajeets fucking their first cousins come to mind, and both of those groups want children. I have literally never seen an incestuous relationship that would be likely to not want children. It's always people who don't use birth control and are against abortion.
 
Realistically, the sole purpose of sex is to procreate, because the sole purpose of life is to procreate. You may have a higher calling or purpose or meaning, but that calling or purpose or meaning is predicated on being alive; continued existence of the species is a prerequisite for anything. Even if you as an individual organism do not view the continuation of your bloodline as a benefit, as a component of the human superorganism you have an obligation to further genetic diversification and selection for the good of the race. Unless you are knowingly dysgenic or antisocial, you have an obligation to procreate, and any relationship that does not further this obligation is a waste of time and energy.

Inbreeding is universally regarded as bad for the species. Thus an incestuous relationship that procreates is bad. But barring some outliers, a voluntary failure to procreate is also bad for the species. Thus an incestuous relationship that does not procreate is bad, as it either precludes procreation entirely or wastes resources that could further procreation.

You could argue against procreation on the grounds that you're dysgenic, and that's valid, but unless your partner is too, you're just wasting their resources. You could argue against procreation on the grounds that you're antisocial, and that may or may not be valid, but unless your partner is too, you're just wasting their resources. You could make the argument that sex serves to strengthen a romantic relationship with someone with whom you desire to procreate in the future, but in the case of an incestuous relationship that's a moot point.

And this is all before acknowledging that familial relationships are irreplaceable and even broaching the subject risks damaging that relationship, while there are, what, two to three billion other potential partners of viable age to choose from if you're not bisexual, most of whom don't necessitate compromising an existing relationship.

The only context in which it could be argued to be a positive is one in which both you and your relative have a very good reason to not breed, and neither of you have any other viable partners who also have a very good reason to not breed. And at least one of you is sterile. And you're confident that a romantic or sexual relationship will be more valuable than your existing familial relationship. And will either last forever or not have any negative repercussions on your familial relationship when it ends. I guess.
 
Julius Evola wrote in his book, Eros And The Mysteries of Love, that an incestuous relationship between a mother and son is not healthy. In this relationship, the mother takes care of the son well into adulthood while the son is usually aloof. In that book, Evola doesn't discuss the relations between brother and sister, but I imagine it's pretty similar to a mother-son relationship. There's a lot of stuff in that book which is both fascinating and disgusting.
 
Julius Evola wrote in his book, Eros And The Mysteries of Love, that an incestuous relationship between a mother and son is not healthy. In this relationship, the mother takes care of the son well into adulthood while the son is usually aloof. In that book, Evola doesn't discuss the relations between brother and sister, but I imagine it's pretty similar to a mother-son relationship. There's a lot of stuff in that book which is both fascinating and disgusting.
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