Wokism - the tide is turning - or not?

[Mother Teresa]

Not really. The only reason there is minor biteback back in some corners against trannies is because trannies inconveniece a larger cohort of starbucks moms and brown religious people that shoplifting, mass migration and food prices don't tend to bother.

Wokism is still the state religion of the west and is likely to be for the future. More people would have to be directly affected by something to get upset by it. For the same reason I don't actually think people would "resist" Islamification because looking across the world at the wealthy in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and you'll observe it isn't the devotees or wealthy promoters of Wokeness that it would inconvenience in any significant way. They'll still smoke, drink, fuck around with harems etc; it'll just be off limits to the masses and who cares about them really.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Wokism is dying but things are not getting much better than you think considering the lasting effects will linger for decades.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Wokism is dying but things are not getting much better than you think considering the lasting effects will linger for decades.

You can say the same for most pendulum shifts.

 

[Kankichi Ryotsu]

Give it 10 years and republicans will start defending current woke talking points as if they were trad and based.

 

[Kiwisee]

I'm not worried about Wokism

I'm worried about what ideology the corporate overlords will adopt next, because once its no longer profitable they'll find something else.

In the meantime, touch grass and pick up a hobby. Focusing on online political discourse isn't healthy, you'll just stress yourself into an early grave.

 

[Quote Cursor]

Sadly Wokeism (or Political Correctness) will never die. You can see by history that there were pushback, but (like a disease) it stayed. Classic example where you see safer words being introduced or artifical ambiguity (see the whole gender neutral language), the use of certain figures or identities (e.g. the confederate flag) being put in the umbrella term 'Nazi', and the reshaping/censoring of history and media to make their agenda stand out. If you want to get rid of it, you would have to fully kill it, no half measures.

 

[Triggerni66er]

Trump leaving office got the boot off of our necks and COVID woke a lot of people up. Additionally I believe that since everything has gotten tighter for most people financially as in: wages stagnant, inflation and cost of living it's causing people to think "Fuck niggers, I just want to get by"

 

[ABE LINN COHN]

I have a hypothesis that Josh actually touched on, freedom of speech isn't actually making a return on the Internet, what's happening is we've been conditioned to a new normal of the Internet and we're being given a concession that's better than what's being pushed but still less than what we used to have.

I know 1984 is brought up too much but this really is just like the part where the chocolate rations are reduced yet the paper records it as an increase in chocolate rations.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

The issue people here have is that they don't see that Wokism was already hated and never a grassroots movement. It only survived because it was funded with horrendous amounts of ESG funds that helped remove the sting of "Get Woke, Go Broke". ESG can't survive anymore because the Feds aren't doing QE anymore because of the issues with the economy. That's the entire reason it's struggling now along with the fact investors have caught on to the Ponzi-scheme.

The people dooming that it will never end are demoralized retards. You're seeing it happen before your eyes. I don't know why A&H posters all have to be sniveling babies, people said the same thing about covid and it fucked off. Hell those same people lose their minds when the site hits a snag, yet we're still here.

 

[AMHOLIO]

The people dooming that it will never end are demoralized retards

It's easier to not change than it is to deal with change. Changing your brain habits to think in a different way is hard. Depression and demoralization hits like a bitch and not having the energy or not wanting to change it because you'll be scared that you'll get smacked by the ruler if you do try is hard.

I get it, I went and still go through it, but it's up to the person to change. Yelling at each other in small places online who reaffirm your worldview of depression (I don't care about the politics aspect) hurts even if it's a small comfort for a little bit. Choosing to work out of it and attempting a better future works more in the long run, it gives you better strategies to cope with negative situations and you can find ways to survive, adequately float, or even prosper in hard times. It's easier to not change than to change but it's better for the person to choose to not let their own depression blinders cut so much of their view off, and if not, get help to do so. And if you refuse to, don't get butthurt when people refute your points or tell you to shut it.

Now I'm going to do some attempt at change now myself, even though it's a small change of habit.

 

[DumbDude43]

The issue people here have is that they don't see that Wokism was already hated and never a grassroots movement. It only survived because it was funded with horrendous amounts of ESG funds that helped remove the sting of "Get Woke, Go Broke". ESG can't survive anymore because the Feds aren't doing QE anymore because of the issues with the economy. That's the entire reason it's struggling now along with the fact investors have caught on to the Ponzi-scheme.

The people dooming that it will never end are demoralized retards. You're seeing it happen before your eyes. I don't know why A&H posters all have to be sniveling babies, people said the same thing about covid and it fucked off. Hell those same people lose their minds when the site hits a snag, yet we're still here.

you are being short-sighted.
using ESG/DEI ideas to sell this shit to business managers and CEOs is a pretty recent phenomenon, but the underlying "woke" infection of society (leftism in general) is much older and has been steadily progressing in the west since at least the 1960s.
even if ESG/DEI business and finance ideas fade out (which is in no way certain, so far that's just wishful thinking by centrists who want to go back to grilling) the enemy behind these ideas will not magically disappear - they're still entrenched in their core power base (captured institutions of higher education) and they'e not going away on their own.
these types survived the collapse of soviet communism, which at the time was widely expected to completely discredit leftism and usher in its eventual dissolution, so they will easily survive any possible anti-ESG/DEI pushback.
and as others have said, the damage they did so far isn't being undone either, in fact it keeps getting worse on a daily basis, and will continue to do so unless a thorough and violent purge is carried out against them.

 

[raspberry mocha]

Funny, I felt this way five years ago.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

you are being short-sighted.
using ESG/DEI ideas to sell this shit to business managers and CEOs is a pretty recent phenomenon, but the underlying "woke" infection of society (leftism in general) is much older and has been steadily progressing in the west since at least the 1960s.
even if ESG/DEI business and finance ideas fade out (which is in no way certain, so far that's just wishful thinking by centrists who want to go back to grilling) the enemy behind these ideas will not magically disappear - they're still entrenched in their core power base (captured institutions of higher education) and they'e not going away on their own.
these types survived the collapse of soviet communism, which at the time was widely expected to completely discredit leftism and usher in its eventual dissolution, so they will easily survive any possible anti-ESG/DEI pushback.
and as others have said, the damage they did so far isn't being undone either, in fact it keeps getting worse on a daily basis, and will continue to do so unless a thorough and violent purge is carried out against them.

I don't agree with that logic, if you look at the kinds of people pushing this agenda they are either idiots or very old and likely to die in the next couple years. The reason the shit leadership seems so long-lived is because it is or should I say was long lived. The boomers that have been in power are eventually going to die and relinquish their power which is when things can start getting fixed.

The way our corrupt Government runs isn't remotely sustainable they are already out of money and bonds are becoming harder to sell, likely by the early 2030s( With the way things are going it'll be more like the end of decade). The Government is already horrifically bloated to the point of barely functioning. So it's all destined to fall apart and be replaced with something else.

 

[Kiwisee]

The people dooming that it will never end are demoralized retards. You're seeing it happen before your eyes.

Interesting that the demoralized are people who believe themselves to be immune to propaganda, without realizing that they themselves have fallen for the same propaganda tropes uttered since The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

As I said previously, getting worked up about online politics isn't healthy because at the end of the day you're getting upset about things you have no control over. Doubly so if you can't offer any solutions, which is on brand for your average Doomfag.

These people aren't the type to carry out any violent revolt either, because they're not mentally strong enough to. If they were, well they wouldn't be a Blackpilled Doomer in the first place.

People need to pick up some useful hobby, touch grass and talk to real people. No joke, even having a real life friend or two that you can hang out with can do wonders for your mental health. If you have none, seek them out. A resourceful person doesn't give up on that so easily, and will actively find any means of socialization if they wish to have IRL friends.

 

[DumbDude43]

I don't agree with that logic, if you look at the kinds of people pushing this agenda they are either idiots or very old and likely to die in the next couple years. The reason the shit leadership seems so long-lived is because it is or should I say was long lived. The boomers that have been in power are eventually going to die and relinquish their power which is when things can start getting fixed.

The way our corrupt Government runs isn't remotely sustainable they are already out of money and bonds are becoming harder to sell, likely by the early 2030s( With the way things are going it'll be more like the end of decade). The Government is already horrifically bloated to the point of barely functioning. So it's all destined to fall apart and be replaced with something else.

this is such outlandish and bizarre reasoning.
"just wait for the boomers to die bro" - ok, and then what? genX is more woke than boomers were, millennials are more woke than genX, zoomers are even more woke than millennials, and whatever will come after zoomers can only be expected to be yet another step up.
with that in mind, how on earth will boomers passing the torch to their successors change anything for the better? if anything, one would expect this to increase the fervor and zeal with which they push and enforce their ideology, not lessen it.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

this is such outlandish and bizarre reasoning.
"just wait for the boomers to die bro" - ok, and then what? genX is more woke than boomers were, millennials are more woke than genX, zoomers are even more woke than millennials, and whatever will come after zoomers can only be expected to be yet another step up.
with that in mind, how on earth will boomers passing the torch to their successors change anything for the better? if anything, one would expect this to increase the fervor and zeal with which they push and enforce their ideology, not lessen it.

Really now all of those Generations are woke, they are all far-left extremists? All the state level Governments wanna castrate kids? What about all the bannings on sex operations for children? How the fuck do you know that? How did Trump get elected if that's the case. Why are there people using this site if everyone is an npc? Why are there people willing to help Null keep this website up? Why do you retard doomers have zero nuance? Do you really think everyone has this retarded all or nothing attitude? No, there are more people in the center, Trump was a Democrat before running for President.

The Boomers are the ones that put us into massive debt and the ones that caused the situation we're in. They sold-out the future of America to live comfortably because they are old and don't care what happens in the future, so naturally when you replace those people with younger people they are going to care more about the future because they'll have to live in it. Not really sure why you think that is bizarre logic it seems to make sense to me.

 

[DumbDude43]

Really now all of those Generations are woke, they are all far-left extremists? All the state level Governments wanna castrate kids? What about all the bannings on sex operations for children? How the fuck do you know that? How did Trump get elected if that's the case. Why are there people using this site if everyone is an npc? Why are there people willing to help Null keep this website up? Why do you retard doomers have zero nuance? Do you really think everyone has this retarded all or nothing attitude? No, there are more people in the center, Trump was a Democrat before running for President.

The Boomers are the ones that put us into massive debt and the ones that caused the situation we're in. They sold-out the future of America to live comfortably because they are old and don't care what happens in the future, so naturally when you replace those people with younger people they are going to care more about the future because they'll have to live in it. Not really sure why you think that is bizarre logic it seems to make sense to me.

if you think biden and hillary being replaced by AOC and ilhan omar is a good thing and will fix the future, i don't know what to tell you. enjoy living in fantasy world i guess.

 

[Pissmaster]

The issue people here have is that they don't see that Wokism was already hated and never a grassroots movement. It only survived because it was funded with horrendous amounts of ESG funds that helped remove the sting of "Get Woke, Go Broke". ESG can't survive anymore because the Feds aren't doing QE anymore because of the issues with the economy. That's the entire reason it's struggling now along with the fact investors have caught on to the Ponzi-scheme.

The people dooming that it will never end are demoralized retards. You're seeing it happen before your eyes. I don't know why A&H posters all have to be sniveling babies, people said the same thing about covid and it fucked off. Hell those same people lose their minds when the site hits a snag, yet we're still here.

Ding ding ding, we've got a winner.

Wokeness only survives from incredible amounts of funding from giant investment corporations like Blackrock. Companies go woke to appease those investors so they can make more money from them than from their customers, making up for any lost profits. Now that the funding's drying up, they have to either move back to marketing that appeals to the masses. The masses are now broke thanks to the economic downturn. The ridiculous concept that a degree is a direct representation of one's skills is still a mantra, but there aren't a lot of actual good marketers due to the woke gatekeeping in higher education, so it's a shitshow for everyone.

I don't really know what's going to happen. Wokeness has been around long enough to where there are plenty of millenials and zoomers who had it crammed in their noggins from a young age, so they're going to be much like hippies from the boomer generation: a giant group of people who earnestly though they were doing the right thing, and cannot ever comprehend that they were used.

Maybe we'll have a big ol' war that'll clear a lot of useless retards out. Lord knows America's weaker than ever at the moment.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

if you think biden and hillary being replaced by AOC and ilhan omar is a good thing and will fix the future, i don't know what to tell you. enjoy living in fantasy world i guess.

You mean like how Trump replaced Hillary in 2016? And how he'll replace Joe in 2024? I guess you can see the future now and know exactly who will replace people now?

 

[DumbDude43]

You mean like how Trump replaced Hillary in 2016? And how he'll replace Joe in 2024? I guess you can see the future now and know exactly who will replace people now?

i mean replace them as high ranking leaders in the democrat party, along with others such as newsom, buttigieg and o'rourke. these are the 'next generation' that will take over the party after the biden generation of politicians bites the dust.