US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[George Lucas]

No amendments were required.
Lincoln violated so many provisions of every article of the constitution and the bill of rights he may as well have doused it in kerosene and set it ablaze.
The republic never recovered.

Perhaps you should layoff the platitudes and actually make some citations if you want to be taken seriously.

You are always going off about how ineffective SCOTUS is and yet they have continually been bailing us out of various unconstitutional bullshit for the past twenty or so years. They don’t get everything but they have done more for conservatism in just the last ten years than any other court did in an hundred. That doesn’t have anything to do with Lincoln, that just has to do with you being a retard.

 

[LurkTrawl]

If Lincoln was a Communist monster for being well within his right to put down a massive rebellion (the Constitution gives the president the means to suspend habeas corpus in the case of insurrection or invasion)

Yeah an insurrection, like a bunch of old boomers wanting to initiate a national divorce because the rights of states are being impugned upon by a dictatorial retard and his cronies take a rowdy stroll through the capitol.

That's Libertarian politics 101, though: hate any and all heads of state who go for centralization. Problem is nations like that fall apart - just look at the Holy Roman Empire, who didn't centralize. You NEED a strong centralized government to keep it together.

Yeah man it's crazy how the U.S. just fell apart without centralization because... when they tried to stick to the framework of the government, which was decentralized, the assholes who wanted to consolidate power through centralizing the government decided to ratfuck them and initiate a war to ensure it would happen.

I mean really this is as ridiculous as saying that without Lincoln slavery wouldn't have ended. The entire reason there was a war in the first place was due to federal overreach and attempts to force irrational policy based on retarded ideological grounds down the throats of an entire half of the populace. Wait... that sounds kind of familiar...

 

[dustbuster]

Perhaps you should layoff the platitudes and actually make some citations if you want to be taken seriously.

Enjoy the show.
19 citations, readings of contemporary primary sources, the works:

Bibliography: 'Lincolnomics: How President Lincoln Constructed The Great American Economy' by John F. Wasik 'The New York City Draft Riots' by Iver Bernstein 'Emancipating Slaves, Enslaving Free Men' by Jeffrey Roger Hummel 'For Cause and Comrades: Why Men Fought the Civil War' by James MacPherson 'Team of Rivals' by Doris Kearns Goodwin 'The Real Lincoln' by Thomas J. DiLorenzo 'Lincoln Unmasked' by Thomas J. DiLorenzo 'William Tecumseh Sherman: A Memoir' by William Tecumseh Sherman 'South Carolina Civilians in Sherman's Path' by Karen Stokes 'Lincoln Takes Command: How Lincoln Got The War He Wanted' by John Shipley Tilley 'And Then There Was Light: Abraham Lincoln and the American Struggle' by John Meacham 'Documents Relating to New England Federalism' by Henry Adams 'Henry Clay and the American System' by Maurice Baxter 'The Rise and Decline of the Confederate Government' by Jefferson Davis 'Lincoln Reconsidered' by David Donald 'Total War and the Constitution' by Edward S. Corwin '14 Months in American Bastiles' by Frank Key Howard 'The Lincoln No One Knows' by Webb Garrison 'Nullification and Secession in the United States' by Edward Powell

But hey, what would "William Tecumseh Sherman" know about "Sherman's march to the sea", amirite?

 

[Random Internet Person]

THE GOP VOTER WALL OF FRUSTRATION​

Cartoon published 11/13/2023

Vivek Ramaswamy delivered a complete thrashing of Ronna McDaniel at the third GOP debate. Ronna was in attendance and Vivek blasted her in front of her face, citing her terrible Republican National Committee leadership. Ronna McDaniel called Vivek an ‘a__hole’ and then she sought solace on the fake news shows.

Smiling Ronna pleaded her case on Meet the Press that the RNC was doing its job and she is doing the best she can with the unelectable and extreme MAGA candidates that are running for office. In fact. if they didn’t have so many unpopular policies such as secure borders, then they would have been elected. You see, it was their fault for their terrible performance in the last election, not Ronna’s or the RNC’s.

The lady doth protest too much.


The truth of the matter is Ronna won’t give America First candidates one thin dime from the RNC to help their campaigns. She’s planning on defunding Vivek in retaliation for him being right over the target. RINOs only seems to be RNC’s motto. Only RINOs get fed the cash. They are selected, not elected.

Republican voters feel like they are beating their heads against an RNC brick wall at every election. The RNC listens to globalist big money donors, not their ‘America First’ voter base. This has been the case for decades. They easily marginalized and cheated non-swamp candidates such as Ron Paul. Then Trump came along and upset their rotten applecart.



Speaking of rotten, the FBI has revealed themselves many times over to be a corrupt, rogue agency—they’re the muscle of the Deep State Swamp. That swamp is about to become deeper if $3.5 billion in funding is approved for their new headquarters. There are a great many Republicans in Congress who support this and each should be vilified. Ronna naturally prefers RINO, Uniparty Republicans. You know, the kind Karl Rove likes as well. Republicans such as Romney, Cheney, and McCain. We need a sea change in the Republican party. We need to break up the FBI, not reward them with new digs.

After lambasting Ronna, Vivek invited her to come up on the stage and resign. Horrors! Ronna is big mad now. She won’t resign because it’s not her fault—it’s yours for not doing as you’re told. She blames her fiasco on MAGA voters who prefer MAGA candidates whom she will not support with funding.



With Ronna as the RNC Chairwoman, don’t expect 2024 to be any different. Trump must be reelected before we can truly see change—and that requires a shakeup and shakeout of the RINOs in the party. Including Ronna McDaniel.

— The GrrrTeam

 

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Damn, I can't blame niggos for abandoning negresses for Latinas and fat White women.

 

[Sithis]

Since we are all lamenting on the evils of past presidents I want to state for the record I think Truman should have been beaten into unconsciousness for preventing Douglas MacArthur from solving the China problem for us 70 years ago.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Since we are all lamenting on the evils of past presidents I want to state for the record I think Truman should have been beaten into unconsciousness for preventing Douglas MacArthur from solving the China problem for us 70 years ago.

The "general" in "US Politics General" does a lot of fucking heavy lifting.

Which has got me wondering who would be a good nominee, living or dead, for the "US Politics General".

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

Really makes a fella think...

I have a theory that the rise of mass shootings since the 1980s has it's origins in redirecting the unhinged and bitter losers and lunatics from attempting to kill political figures to make a statement and gain notoriety by trying to get high score counts out of offing as many normal people as possible.

You look at guys like Lee Harvey Oswald or John Hinkley, they're losers or nutcases, not highly motivated and competent ideologues. In the present era they'd shoot up a shopping center or something.

It's only recently they've started to rely on it as a pinpointed distraction tactic rather than a general strategy of the redirection of potential explosive violence by society's malcontents onto the plebs instead of those who direct society.

 

[Sithis]

Which has got me wondering who would be a good nominee, living or dead, for the "US Politics General".

Accept no substitutes.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

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Accept no substitutes.

While I don't consider the Founding Fathers bad people or bad leaders in aggregate, they were the American Elite of their time and governed in a Plutarchic way, hence why Jackson was controversial. Unlike today where I consider the American government in aggregate as bad people and bad leaders.

 

[Sithis]

While I don't consider the Founding Fathers bad people or bad leaders in aggregate, they were the American Elite of their time and governed in a Plutarchic way, hence why Jackson was controversial. Unlike today where I consider the American government in aggregate as bad people and bad leaders.

The man had his prickly aspects, no doubt. Was a lot rougher around the edges than what Americans had been accustomed to. But Jackson had good wits about him and the steel to do what was necessary, up to and including PVPing would-be attackers and challengers.

Washington himself was very lucky and maybe perhaps favored by God but honestly Greene was probably a better general.

 

[MMS-China]

Their focus, really – America isn’t trying to fight to protect Ukraine. It’s fighting for the last Ukrainian to be exhausted in what they’d hoped would be depleting Russia’s military. Well, it hasn’t worked.

Well, the same thing in Israel. If the United States is pushing Israel and Netanyahu to escalate, escalate, escalate, to do something that at a point is going to lead Nasrallah to finally say, okay, we can’t take it anymore. We’re coming in and helping rescue the Gazians and especially rescue the West Bank, where just as much fighting is taking place. We’re going to come in.

And that’s when the United States will then feel free to move not only against Lebanon, but all the way via Syria, Iraq, to Iran.

What we’re seeing in Gaza and the West Bank today is only the catalyst, the trigger for the fact that the neocons say we are never going to have a better chance than we have right now to conquer Iran.

So this is the point for the showdown, that if America is to control Near Eastern oil, and by controlling Near Eastern oil, by bringing it under the US control, it can control the energy imports of much of the world.

And therefore, this gives American diplomats the power to cut off oil and gas and to sanction any country that tries to go multipolar, any country that tries to resist US unipolar control.

https://www.unz.com/mhudson/why-does-the-us-support-israel/

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/5bf3M

 

[Dick Mason]

https://nitter.net/BillMelugin_/status/1724229944413241432

Republican redemption arc incoming.

 

[MMS-China]

 

[Michael Wade]

I wouldn't be going to a lolbert cow like Razorfist for any political takes, including his idiotic takes on Lincoln.

I haven't heard a good concrete rebuttal of his arguments yet. Only personal attacks.


My opinion was that Lincoln was a relatively decent man elevated above his station. Involved in something he couldn't predict the consequences of. His goal was to end the war soon and as that became increasingly unlikely he grabbed at whatever he could to finish it.

At the very least razorfist did an excellent job making me question the wisdom of a lot of his decisions .

Lots of shitty people have hid behind his image and legacy to justify their position.

Since we are all lamenting on the evils of past presidents I want to state for the record I think Truman should have been beaten into unconsciousness for preventing Douglas MacArthur from solving the China problem for us 70 years ago.

I dunno man. What was stopping Russia from retaliation or tit for tat with other territory's and nukes afterwards? I think Truman made the right call on that decision.

Back on topic
Here's a montage of joe evaporating before our very eyes
https://conservativebrief.com/shocking-video-78330/

Also he's apparently cursing out anyone trying to get him to resign. Namely Obama advisor axel rod

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden...obama-adviser-voices-election-concerns-report

 

[dustbuster]

Here's a montage of joe evaporating before our very eyes

This could be literally any newsreel at this point.
The zombie reagan memes have nothing on the weekend at bernies act as it fails in real time and pieces of Joe's flesh fall off.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Re: Lincoln

The man did many tyrannical things, but the fact is that the Civil War was a long time coming since the Independence and the piling up of issues and feelings by both sides on it all but guaranteed it would end up in tears and blood. Had Lincoln failed to stop the CSA he 100% would be remembered as a tyrant and a demagogue. However the fact is that his hand WAS forced and he did not want the war, but as the man said "for the nation to survive slavery must die" and so the war fired off.

The main reason I would not consider him to be in the same group as Wilson and FDR however is due to how he handled the peace and tried to earn it. He made efforts to ensure things would return to normal as quickly as possible once the south surrendered. He did not demand vengence but instead reintegration and compromise. He did not blame the population of the south for having defended their homes, and went so far as to forgive and pardon literal Generals on the Confederate Army and allow them to join the Union and now once again US Army. Think about that: How many leaders have actually been this committed to peace to the point of forgiving those who rose against them? Can you imagine FDR and WW doing that?

I repeat my position: Getting noscoped on the theater was a disaster for the south. There is a reason so many Dixie boys were fucking shitting themselves when that happened and called Booth a total nutjob and traitor. It made the Reconstruction go in different way that led to many problems to fuck up the place. All Booth did was cement mistakes Lincoln made by making the man unable to atone for them.

Back on topic
Here's a montage of joe evaporating before our very eyes
https://conservativebrief.com/shocking-video-78330/

Also he's apparently cursing out anyone trying to get him to resign. Namely Obama advisor axel rod

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden...obama-adviser-voices-election-concerns-report

Ah great, the man is literally senile and no one has the balls to invoke the 25th because it would make Orange Man look vindicated.

I remember the drama around his dog. I and many others posited that Commander was going feral on USSS not because of any sort of issues with the dog but because of Biden. This seems to support that theory.

Basically dogs are very sensitive to the emotional state of their owners. Whenever Biden had a episode of senile rage the dog would get really upset and nervous as well, and it would end up attacking people trying to calm Biden down because it doesn't understand what is going on outside of "master is angry and the suited men are making him upset, me deal with suited men".

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

 

[AnotherPleb]

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Watch Califaggots not realize he could have done this whenever he wanted to.

 

[Gehenna]

Can we take a moment to bask in how the approval numbers for Biden are not even -trying- to hide that they are doctored now? If you look at his aggregate poll numbers they defy every single precept and historical patterns ever. They are absolutely, blatantly being held up where they are.