Plagued The Alt-Right

muina said:
Horseshoe theory
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Yes, and that works when your understanding of the Alt-Right is /pol/ taken at face value and whatever Hillary rambled about in her paranoid, borderline schizophrenic speech on it. We have threads on neo nazi boards, anti-black sites and communities, that weird lizard guy's forum, etc. Those are the diametric opposites of the Social Justice movement. Alt-right is not that.
 
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Null said:
Yes, and that works when your understanding of the Alt-Right is /pol/ taken at face value and whatever Hillary rambled about in her paranoid, borderline schizophrenic speech on it. We have threads on neo nazi boards, anti-black sites and communities, that weird lizard guy's forum, etc. Those are the diametric opposites of the Social Justice movement. Alt-right is not that.
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Maybe the fact that it's an actual movement and have shown to be lolcows
 
Chinaman said:
The entire Trump campaign is based on the alt right. So to say they are a tiny movement is just flat out wrong.

Now will it have big effects on the system? Doubtful. But the right wing never intends to have big changes on the system. That's why they are the right. The "conservative" the "reformist".
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No, Trump's support largely comes from Populist disdain for the establishment. A pack of fascism LARPing dorks barely enter into it and most of Trump's own beliefs are at distinct odds with the Alt-Right, namely he doesn't actually support the authoritarian hugbox the Alt-Right wants and is a big supporter of Israel.
 
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Too Many Crooks said:
:story: This 55-page thread may show otherwise.

The alt-right is as obnoxious & idiotic as SJWs, on different magnitudes.
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I disagree. There's idiots everywhere, but it's by the principles I consider "Alt-Right" that have led me to continue hosting this site despite consequences and difficulties -- not sure if that helps or hurts my argument though.
 
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I wasn't misrepresenting what you said, I was just responding.

On another note I'd say the tumblr alt-right is worth looking at. LOTS and lots of nazi bronies.
 
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Null said:
Alt-Right is a newer concept and Alt-Right is not inherently lolcowish. Alt-Right is a restoration of common sense, Social Justice is a deconstruction of society that considers all peoples to be some sort of genderless, amorphic blob of goo. I like to say they don't want equality (wherein equality can mean five chickens is the same as two cows), they want congruence.

IMO it's just harder to find things to make fun of about a group of people who just want to see everyone keep to themselves and not break the law. I'm biased, though, obviously.
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Alt-right is basically the opposite of congruence. Instead of wanting equality, they favor themselves blindly, their traditions over other people's traditions. I'm not saying the social justice movement is good, but essentially no extremist movements are good.
 
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SJW means something very, very specific, and it encompasses a very narrow range of behavior and beliefs. In fact, the enforced ideological conformity is so fucking ridiculous that it's cultic. There's a set of beliefs that if you deviate from it in even the most minor way you are instantly excommunicated.

The alt-right is a very broad concept, and covers everything from people who really dig Ron Paul to people who really dig Donald Trump to people who really dig Hitler. "Anyone who leans right but isn't a mainstream Republican" is a pretty useless diagnostic label for lolcow categorizing.

A lot of these subgroups are total fucking lolcows (like incels and actual neo-Nazis and a lot of other groups we have threads on here). But if they are, they'll generally be called something more specific than "alt-right." Like "Milo Yiannopoulos."

We also usually use "SJW" to mean that very specific group, most of which is on tumblr, though it's often used on /pol/ and other alt-right hangouts to mean just generally anyone who isn't a Nazi. If we defined it that broadly, it wouldn't be all lolcows.
 
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Fougaro said:
None. If they we're they'd be having jobs and a family instead of whining 24/7 about the eternal Jew.

Speaking of family, I hope one of the historical autists here will correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it the Nazis back in the day who tried to subvert the family in order to make the children loyal to the Führer and the state instead of Mom and Dad just like it was the case in Stalin's USSR? If so, it would be a bit ironic to see neo-Nazis go on and on about traditional family values.
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It was a mixture of both. While they indeed did work towards focusing the loyality of children on the state and the "Aryan race" instead of their family via youth organisations such as the Hitler Youth and massive propaganda and rallying at schools, they also needed a steady "production stream" of fresh cannon fodder, for which obviously fertile families were essential. Also, they made sure their propaganda wasn't geared exclusively towards the youth but to the whole "Aryan" population. So the "Happy Germanic Family" (especially peasant families -- the "Blood and Soil" ideology had a huge boner for the image of the "healthy strong reliable farm family") was a staple of Nazi propaganda.

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Adolf Wissel: Kalenberg Peasant Family (1938/39)
 
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