South Park + Its Political Sperging (?) Thread - Season 26 ongoing!

[Cryogonal2]

I was hanging out with my dad and he put on a newish episode about Warhammer and Spring Break or something. Unfunny and up its own ass. Downright faggoty.

That was probably the worst episode I've seen that didn't show footage of real-life genital reassignment surgery.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

Hate-watching and then complaining about gay faggot DEI media products is actually worse than just mindlessly consuming them. At least the faggot soyjakin' to the latest Star Wars trailer is having fun. Fandom menace types are just consoomers who aren't having fun. Instead of watching for excitement, they watch for outrage. It is impotent, pathetic and I cannot relate.

Even for a franchise that I did care about, LotR, yeah Rings of Power was gay and annoying. But I didn't watch it, barely thought about it and now, all this time later, the entire thing was an abject critical failure so much so even jew rags like NYT had to admit it sucked.

Indifference is how you kill this shit, but indifference doesn't get you angry soyjak grift dollars. Indifference doesn't give you rage-catharsis.

 

[Chuck McGill]

If there's one argument from the Fandom Menace types that I might give credence to, it's the idea that these criticisms being aired on a show as popular as South Park might open the floodgates for others to criticize the DEI brigade. All of this stuff seems old hat to us because most of us are terminally online and see this crap on a daily basis, but we've seen again and again that the Hollywood types don't interact with their online critics except to smear them as right-wing trolls to discredit their arguments. If they try the same on something like South Park, the boomers and normies are bound to notice how patently ridiculous this is, since unlike an online comment thread, they got to see the 'hateful comments' themselves. I very much doubt this will be the blow that fells Disney, but it sure doesn't help while they're trying to deal with their flagship franchises flopping at the box office and their parks still not having recovered to pre-COVID numbers.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Indifference is how you kill this shit, but indifference doesn't get you angry soyjak grift dollars. Indifference doesn't give you rage-catharsis.

The issue is that indifference doesn't work at the age of disposable media. People will consoom new garbage purely because it is new without regards to its content, quality or message. At least Fandom Menace highlights some of subversion in new media to make some normies more wwry of it.

 

[Tepes Thot]

The issue is that indifference doesn't work at the age of disposable media. People will consoom new garbage purely because it is new without regards to its content, quality or message. At least Fandom Menace highlights some of subversion in new media to make some normies more wwry of it.

Not to mention they’re making money off it, and in the case of someone like JLongBone, not paying a dime for it in the first place. Good.

Some loser cope-er handing over their cash for Funkos, the next COD, and Netflix Amerimes because “it’s fine guys, you just have to ignore 99% of it” is much more of a loser. I don’t consume much of who’s considered Fandom Menace, and I think that title is retarded, but it’s just bullshit to pretend they’re on the same level as corporate demons destroying culture.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Not to mention they’re making money off it, and in the case of someone like JLongBone, not paying a dime for it in the first place. Good.

Some loser cope-er handing over their cash for Funkos, the next COD, and Netflix Amerimes because “it’s fine guys, you just have to ignore 99% of it” is much more of a loser. I don’t consume much of who’s considered Fandom Menace, and I think that title is retarded, but it’s just bullshit to pretend they’re on the same level as corporate demons destroying culture.

The Fandom Menace term came from Ethan Van Scriver although the Youtuber groups themselves existed before he showed up.

 

[Tepes Thot]

The Fandom Menace term came from Ethan Van Scriver although the Youtuber groups themselves existed before he showed up.

That’s ironic. Isn’t that how the comics gate title got started? Industry goblins created it and threw it at Ethan and other creators.

 

[Chuck McGill]

Am I the only one getting dog-tired of these specials in general? I kinda get how they were a necessary evil during COVID, but we're well past the point of that being relevant. They just make things muddied and confusing, and if I still paid for streaming I'd feel real taken advantage of being forced to pay for both HBO Max and Paramount Plus just to see the entire South Park catalog.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Second, where is the proof that Disney went this route to get ESG money? One would think they were (at one point) so damn rich that they wouldn't need any of that. And it hasn't worked in their favor either, they're losing investors and the stock price hasn't been this low since 2014. Looks more likely that they got all woke because the people in charge are just really bad at their job and did what they were told without thinking, or they actually seriously do believe in all of that. Or maybe it is like how South Park said, they read the hate mail they were getting, got upset and doubled down because 'fuck these right wing assholes, I'm in charge dammit! God I hate my dad so fucking much!' You know....typical Los Angeles morons.

The idea behind the ESG funds was to exempt large companies from the need to adapt to the market in such a way that they would not have to rely on consumption to survive, and thus be able to devote their resources to activism.

This has not been done without the invaluable help of activist elements already present within those companies. It is a takeover from outside and from within.

They hoped that when there were so many activist companies that the consumer would simply have no choice when it came to consumption they would have established a new baseline of standard procedures that would be standardised and then they could withdraw ESG funds and the companies would go back to operating under market criteria but with a cultural revolution already completed.

It is not clear to me whether the rumours of ESG funds drying up are because they consider the plan complete or failed, but I would not underestimate the influence of ESG nor am I among the many idiots who are already singing victory that the culture war has been won.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

They’re slowly, but surely showing that they are the Aspen faggots after these years.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Am I the only one getting dog-tired of these specials in general? I kinda get how they were a necessary evil during COVID, but we're well past the point of that being relevant. They just make things muddied and confusing, and if I still paid for streaming I'd feel real taken advantage of being forced to pay for both HBO Max and Paramount Plus just to see the entire South Park catalog.

South Park seasons get shorter and shorter the longer it goes on. Now they're so checked out that even a special is the most work they want to do.

The idea behind the ESG funds was to exempt large companies from the need to adapt to the market in such a way that they would not have to rely on consumption to survive, and thus be able to devote their resources to activism.

This has not been done without the invaluable help of activist elements already present within those companies. It is a takeover from outside and from within.

They hoped that when there were so many activist companies that the consumer would simply have no choice when it came to consumption they would have established a new baseline of standard procedures that would be standardised and then they could withdraw ESG funds and the companies would go back to operating under market criteria but with a cultural revolution already completed.

It is not clear to me whether the rumours of ESG funds drying up are because they consider the plan complete or failed, but I would not underestimate the influence of ESG nor am I among the many idiots who are already singing victory that the culture war has been won.

My opinion--and you can give me rainbows for it--is that ESG is in a failing state because entertainment media does not exist in a closed environment. Thanks to globalization, Hollywood no longer has the monopoly on media that it did in the past; it's got to compete with Korean media, Japanese media, and Indian media. Now, they are trying to co-opt Korean and Japanese media, but it doesn't work because those societies really love beautiful women and cool fights and... well... quality in general. So, Hollywood has to compete against anime and video games a lot of the time and they have never understood why anime worked to begin with. Hollywood, with rare exceptions,* cannot make quality stories and media AND have it be woke at the same time. Therefore, the association between woke and crap is almost a 1:1 correlation. Even Socialist Realism has the merit of technical skill. It's just technical skill in the service of propaganda. American media is created by dumb people that can't even keep their propaganda straight.

*Barbie is literally the only successful woke movie on its own terms.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Second, where is the proof that Disney went this route to get ESG money? One would think they were (at one point) so damn rich that they wouldn't need any of that. And it hasn't worked in their favor either, they're losing investors and the stock price hasn't been this low since 2014. Looks more likely that they got all woke because the people in charge are just really bad at their job and did what they were told without thinking, or they actually seriously do believe in all of that. Or maybe it is like how South Park said, they read the hate mail they were getting, got upset and doubled down because 'fuck these right wing assholes, I'm in charge dammit! God I hate my dad so fucking much!' You know....typical Los Angeles morons.

@Ewan McGregor explained it well, but another factor to take in is that the money is going to the top. People like Bob Iger profit hard and are able to form a golden parachute for the post-crash. All Iger has to do is lie to investors for a bit, which are unaware Boomers so not much difficulty there. If the company crashes, it is not his issue.

We are in the era where film studios are hand-me-downs. The people running them have no personal investment beyond coin and will dip when things get hard. For those at top, why not take ESG money in addition to Disney money, ride their 10 year tenure, then F-off while the company burns? Double the money with all the consequences thrust onto another.

 

[Chuck McGill]

South Park seasons get shorter and shorter the longer it goes on. Now they're so checked out that even a special is the most work they want to do.

I kind of want to cut them some slack. I did a bit of reading into how they produced these episodes during the '6 days to air' era, and 100-120 hour work weeks are a fate I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, much less the people responsible for creating something as beloved as South Park. After 20+ years on the air, you've earned the right to rest on your laurels a bit. But for fuck's sake, there's not a thing stopping them from adopting a sensible production schedule and going back to the standard 10-episode seasons. I'm not sure if Matt and Trey are showing their age or if it's a function of everyone having devices in their pockets that give us up-to-the-minute news, but it seems like a lot of the episodes are a bit dated by the time they make it to air. Hell, Panderverse could have released at any point within the last two years and it would have been just as relevant as it is now.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I kind of want to cut them some slack. I did a bit of reading into how they produced these episodes during the '6 days to air' era, and 100-120 hour work weeks are a fate I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, much less the people responsible for creating something as beloved as South Park. After 20+ years on the air, you've earned the right to rest on your laurels a bit. But for fuck's sake, there's not a thing stopping them from adopting a sensible production schedule and going back to the standard 10-episode seasons. I'm not sure if Matt and Trey are showing their age or if it's a function of everyone having devices in their pockets that give us up-to-the-minute news, but it seems like a lot of the episodes are a bit dated by the time they make it to air. Hell, Panderverse could have released at any point within the last two years and it would have been just as relevant as it is now.

I do think it's age. On the writing level, it's just Trey Parker and that's the one duty he doesn't delegate to anyone despite having a writer's room and I don't see how Matt Stone can be any worse at writing. Their justification is for stylistic reasons, but it's no longer working because crunch time was part of their style. Now, they went the opposite and issue specials instead of episodes because they're running dry on story premises. A writer's retreat should generate more than one, but one is as much as we get now because that editorial control is so tight, so a former asset is now predictably a weakness.

 

[Lone Star]

because they're running dry on story premises.

Ironic since for a long-ass they tend to just rip whatever big stupid thing is going on at the time and make fun of it. Basically endless material, really.

 

[Manimal House]

After 20+ years on the air, you've earned the right to rest on your laurels a bit. But for fuck's sake, there's not a thing stopping them from adopting a sensible production schedule and going back to the standard 10-episode seasons. I'm not sure if Matt and Trey are showing their age or if it's a function of everyone having devices in their pockets that give us up-to-the-minute news, but it seems like a lot of the episodes are a bit dated by the time they make it to air.

I think a big part of that is because the fire that drove them got put out when everyone stopped being offended by them. At some point, anyone who got offended with South Park got a general response of "Yeah well, it's South Park, they make fun of everyone. Chill out". And then there was no one left to piss off. Unless I missed something, I think the last time they put effort into it was when they made fun of Xi. Ever since then, episodes have been sparse. I also remember the 2018 season they ran where they tried to advertise this #CancelSouthPark hashtag, involving things like Mr. Hankey getting kicked out of town for mean tweets. They ended it with this distraught sentiment by going "Are we supposed to just...go on? Keep going on making total asses of ourselves?" And then Tegridy Weed took over and everything became very stale.

 

[Sniperwoof]

I think a big part of that is because the fire that drove them got put out when everyone stopped being offended by them. At some point, anyone who got offended with South Park got a general response of "Yeah well, it's South Park, they make fun of everyone. Chill out". And then there was no one left to piss off. Unless I missed something, I think the last time they put effort into it was when they made fun of Xi. Ever since then, episodes have been sparse. I also remember the 2018 season they ran where they tried to advertise this #CancelSouthPark hashtag, involving things like Mr. Hankey getting kicked out of town for mean tweets. They ended it with this distraught sentiment by going "Are we supposed to just...go on? Keep going on making total asses of ourselves?" And then Tegridy Weed took over and everything became very stale.

They could very easily become controversial again by having Biden visit South Park and creepily grope the female child characters while shit falls out of his pants.

But they won't because like all aging edgy contrarians they are cowards at heart.

So we get safe corporate approved targets like Kathleen Kennedy.

 

[Chilson]

I think a big part of that is because the fire that drove them got put out when everyone stopped being offended by them. At some point, anyone who got offended with South Park got a general response of "Yeah well, it's South Park, they make fun of everyone. Chill out". And then there was no one left to piss off. Unless I missed something, I think the last time they put effort into it was when they made fun of Xi. Ever since then, episodes have been sparse. I also remember the 2018 season they ran where they tried to advertise this #CancelSouthPark hashtag, involving things like Mr. Hankey getting kicked out of town for mean tweets. They ended it with this distraught sentiment by going "Are we supposed to just...go on? Keep going on making total asses of ourselves?" And then Tegridy Weed took over and everything became very stale.

They could very easily become controversial again by having Biden visit South Park and creepily grope the female child characters while shit falls out of his pants.

But they won't because like all aging edgy contrarians they are cowards at heart.

So we get safe corporate approved targets like Kathleen Kennedy.

Yeah, its not that they CAN'T offend people its that they WON'T offend them. One episode on the disaster that is Biden is all they need to offend everyone again. Hell they spent entire seasons on Trump and even jabbed at Obama once or twice (even if it was VERY tame and never directed at him directly). So why not Biden?

God forbid they actually go after truly "non-approved" targets like they used to though. Even in their covid special they never really hit on the truly ridiculous bullshit that was being shoved on everyone and all the fraud going on "behind the scenes" (more like in front of everyone, but we all had to pretend it wasn't happening). No jabs at Fauci, celebrity/news hysterics, or any of the people who fucked over everyone else over nothing.

Its time to face facts either Matt and Trey buy all this establishment bullshit and will never toe the party line, or they are sackless pussies who capitulated to their producers censoring them.

 

[TheHarbinger]

They just make things muddied and confusing, and if I still paid for streaming I'd feel real taken advantage of being forced to pay for both HBO Max and Paramount Plus just to see the entire South Park catalog.

And you're not even getting the entire catalog. The censored Mohamed episodes are not on either streaming service. So technically the only service that offers all South Park content is piracy at this point.

 

[Manimal House]

One episode on the disaster that is Biden is all they need to offend everyone again

Come on now, you really think THAT is going to piss people off more than when they had Randy Savage say he's a woman to compete in women's sports? Even when that happened it, the reaction was mild because of South Park's legacy of offending people everyone is treating with kids' gloves. There's little they could rip on Biden for that hasn't already been said for the umpteenth time. They hardly ever talked shit about George Bush when he was in office because everyone else was already doing it. Though it WOULD be nice if they did that (just because it would be funny), but I doubt they're holding off out of fear. It's more likely that they just don't give enough of a shit about it.