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northstar747 said:
So I always feel the rise of obama and the liberal left, was a direct result of the Republicans Great War on Terror.
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Bush was also a disaster in domestic issues as well.

Here comes in this good looking black men who spoke well, with a catchy campaign slogan and of course "muh first black president".

Against the Republicans at the time, who were intellectually bankrupt and at the end threw Bush under the bus when he left office.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
Bush was also a disaster in domestic issues as well.

Here comes in this good looking black men who spoke well, with a catchy campaign slogan and of course "muh first black president".

Against the Republicans at the time, who were intellectually bankrupt and at the end threw Bush under the bus when he left office.
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Its funny, Dubya was actually great with his domestic policy as governor. Many of the programs and laws he passed are still in effect. It was only once he was on a national level and had 9/11 to deal with that things went to shit.
 
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Morrowind: GOTY Edition said:
Its funny, Dubya was actually great with his domestic policy as governor. Many of the programs and laws he passed are still in effect. It was only once he was on a national level and had 9/11 to deal.woth that things went to shit.
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Its the same deal roughly we ZogCucktis.

Except ZogCucktis is torpedoing his chance before even getting into the White House.

I guess its because state level issues are kind of different from federal issues, as states have a lot of powers that the constitution doesn't spell out. Probably why he did well as governor since he only had to care about his state.

Once he got to federal and DC, as Trump found out the hard way.

DC lives in its own bubble with cartoonish views on baby murder and foreign wars and nigger worship.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
Its the same deal roughly we ZogCucktis.

Except ZogCucktis is torpedoing his chance before even getting into the White House.

I guess its because state level issues are kind of different from federal issues, as states have a lot of powers that the constitution doesn't spell out. Probably why he did well as governor since he only had to care about his state.

Once he got to federal and DC, as Trump found out the hard way.

DC lives in its own bubble with cartoonish views on baby murder and foreign wars and nigger worship.
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In most states if a governor wants somebody gone from their state government job, they can be removed. State governments have a real and powerful administrative sect but they are more easily dealt with by a governor with an allied legistlature.

The same is not true of the federal government.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
Here comes in this good looking black men who spoke well, with a catchy campaign slogan and of course "muh first black president".
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Unfortunately for everyone the fucking illiterate normies absolutely refused to do due diligence on Obama. Cause they're only interested in making history electing "muh first black president." Despite warnings from those who did looked into his history and found him sketchy as fuck.
 
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Uranus Pink said:
Unfortunately for everyone the fucking illiterate normies absolutely refused to do due diligence on Obama.
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That's not what happened.
What happened was an alliance of actual conservatives and the anti-war left who were fucking PISSED at the patriot act and the Iraq war.
I remember this.
Obama ran on the same shit Trump did: fixing trade and ending war.
The fact he was a liar didn't change the reality that he was voted in for that.

Then dubya's GOP THREW the election in 2012 by running, DURING A RECESSION, a man who made his fortune killing thousands of US jobs and shipping them overseas.
(this is the same reason Dubya won a second term: Kerry was a deliberate throw by the beltway DNC)
 
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Uranus Pink said:
Unfortunately for everyone the fucking illiterate normies absolutely refused to do due diligence on Obama. Cause they're only interested in making history electing "muh first black president." Despite warnings from those who did looked into his history and found him sketchy as fuck.
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Obama defeated Hillary by a razor thin margin in the primaries in 2008.

And could have lost 2012 if Romney wasn't the nominee.

Obama has been very lucky thanks to his opponents being doodoo or dullards or both.
 
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Uranus Pink said:
Unfortunately for everyone the fucking illiterate normies absolutely refused to do due diligence on Obama.
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Oh please, you were going to side with McCain in that election? Or Mitt Romney? John Kerry? Every modern election this century had complete fucking dog shit offerings, only during the 2016 elections did we get a worthwhile candidate with Trump who did quite admirably at stymieing some of the worst tendencies of the deepstate, but he is a singular fucking guy, he couldn't do everything.

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Betonhaus said:
Isn't that when politics got subverted to fight endless wars?
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Nah, Happened latest at least during Clinton because he got us in the "Peacekeeping" Bosnia shit that I don't think ever ended.

Probably earlier with post WW2 "Oh we need to sit in Germany and Korea forever" though.
 
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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Probably earlier with post WW2 "Oh we need to sit in Germany and Korea forever" though.
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Far be it from me to cheerlead the old Cold war doctrines, but Korea and Germany actually had a strategic goal whereas Iraq, Afghanistan, et al, were motivatee by profit. Both Germany and Korea were on the front lines of the Containment doctrine, with American troops being present explicitly to contain the USSR.
 
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Skeletonized Cow said:
Far be it from me to cheerlead the old Cold war doctrines, but Korea and Germany actually had a strategic goal whereas Iraq, Afghanistan, et al, were motivatee by profit. Both Germany and Korea were on the front lines of the Containment doctrine, with American troops being present explicitly to contain the USSR.
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That is what is said.

I dunno if I believe the "experts" of the time anymore.
 
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Far be it from me to cheerlead the old Cold war doctrines, but Korea and Germany actually had a strategic goal whereas Iraq, Afghanistan, et al, were motivatee by profit. Both Germany and Korea were on the front lines of the Containment doctrine, with American troops being present explicitly to contain the USSR.
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America rebuilt western Europe to have allies to fight the soviets.

We smashed middle east goverments for....what ever reason.
 
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Skeletonized Cow said:
Far be it from me to cheerlead the old Cold war doctrines, but Korea and Germany actually had a strategic goal whereas Iraq, Afghanistan, et al, were motivatee by profit. Both Germany and Korea were on the front lines of the Containment doctrine, with American troops being present explicitly to contain the USSR.
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What was wrong with the old Cold War doctrines, fuck commies

The GWOT was putting the cart before the horse, thinking you could rebuild a society to be less militaristic without militarily destroying it to the point of collapse, thus discrediting militaristic feeling (for them not you), first
 
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