Argentina elects 'shock therapy' libertarian Javier Milei as president

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BUENOS AIRES, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Argentina elected libertarian outsider Javier Milei as its new president on Sunday, rolling the dice on an outsider with radical views to fix an economy battered by triple-digit inflation, a looming recession and rising poverty.

Official results have not been released, but his rival, Peronist Economy Minister Sergio Massa, conceded in a speech. His candidacy was hampered by the country's worst economic crisis in two decades while he has been at the helm.


Milei is pledging economic shock therapy. His plans include shutting the central bank, ditching the peso, and slashing spending, potentially painful reforms that resonated with voters angry at the economic malaise, but sparked fears of austerity in others.

"Milei is the new thing, he's a bit of an unknown and it is a little scary, but it's time to turn over a new page," said 31-year-old restaurant worker Cristian as he voted on Sunday.


But Milei's challenges are enormous. He will have to deal with the empty coffers of the government and central bank, a creaking $44 billion debt program with the International Monetary Fund, inflation nearing 150% and a dizzying array of capital controls.

With many Argentines not fully convinced by either candidate, some had characterized the vote as a choice of the "lesser evil": fear of Milei's painful economic medicine versus anger at Massa and his Peronist party for an economic crisis that has left Argentina deeply in debt and unable to tap global credit markets.


Milei has been particularly popular among the young, who have grown up seeing their country lurch from one crisis to another.

"Our generation is pushing the presidency of Milei to stop our country being a pariah," said Agustina Lista, 22, a student in Buenos Aires.

Milei's win shakes up Argentina's political landscape and economic roadmap, and could impact trade in grains, lithium and hydrocarbons. Milei has criticized China and Brazil, saying he won't deal with "communists," and favors stronger U.S. ties.

The shock rise of the 53-year-old economist and former TV pundit has been the story of the election, breaking the hegemony of the two main political forces on the left and the right - the Peronists and the main Together for Change conservative bloc.

"The election marks a profound rupture in the system of political representation in Argentina," said Julio Burdman, director of the consultancy Observatorio Electoral, ahead of the vote.

Supporters of Massa, 51, an experienced political wheeler-dealer, had sought to appeal to voter fears about Milei's volatile character and "chainsaw" plan to cut back the size of the state.

"Milei's policies scare me," teacher Susana Martinez, 42, said on Sunday after she voted for Massa.

Milei is also staunchly anti-abortion, favors looser gun laws and has called Argentine Pope Francis a socialist "son of a bitch". He used to carry a chainsaw in a symbol of his planned cuts but shelved it in recent weeks to help boost his moderate image.

After October's first-round vote, Milei struck an uneasy alliance with the conservatives, which boosted his support. But he faces a highly fragmented Congress, with no single bloc having a majority, meaning that he will need to get backing from other factions to push through legislation. Milei's coalition also does not have any regional governors or mayors.

That may temper some of his more radical proposals. Long-suffering voters are likely to have little patience, and the threat of social unrest is never far below the surface.

His backers say only he can uproot the political status quo and economic malaise that has dogged South America's second-largest economy for years.

"Milei is the only viable option so we do not end up in misery," said Santiago Neria, a 34-year-old accountant.

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anybody here actually live in Argentina? I have a friend who left the country because she said that people there are lazy and that the money she made as a lawyer was worthless. She has been bopping around north/central america trying to do freelance ux work and what sounds to me like a very stressful, unsecure existence she says is much nicer than living there. I also just a month ago had a video meeting with a sales rep for a spanish company who lives in argentina. He showed me around his shop and also showed me a wad of USD 100s and said that its all illegal but he does his business locally in USD cash only. My friend had previously needed to borrow cash from me a few years ago (which she paid back promptly) because she sad there were huge restrictions on how much money one could take out of the country- and I mean like the equivalent of 500 USD or something very small. I dont have a point to make with these anecdotes, just wondering if anyone who lives there can help me understand what /why the former government was doing with currency policy how that may have influenced the election
 
I cut out the news media from my life in 2016 as best I could. I don't think there's such a thing as unbiased news these days. The best most people can do is look at both right and left wing sources and piece together the truth yourself.
I shouldn't have to piece the truth together from jigsaw puzzles from different board games. I really do live in clown world. How is CNN still solvent? Are they getting slush-funded by the fed?
 
Finally a candidate i can get behind. He makes everyone MATI. The liberals reee about selling your own organs, muh hibs and muh state healhcare and muh education system and right reees about his crypto jew shit, his selling organs and kids allowed, and pro abortion. Just let it burn to ground already boyos
 
Any country with 140% annual inflation is gonna get shocked one way or another, because a collapse like that of yugoslavia which then led to a full-scale civil war and genocide sure was a shock for every poor bastard living there, but I guess that's better than "meanie scary guy who won't behave and let us have brunch!"..........which is what I guess liberal croat women said as serbians paramilitaries raped their daughters and took all the men, young and old, to a trip to srebrenica...

I been hearing about Argentina going to shit non-stop since I was in middle school, they never seem to catch a break from corrupt politicians and commienomics, but oh no! not shock therapy! better another what, 20 years of misery and poverty? I know rich people here in the first world are quantum levels of head-up-own-ass but come on now...
So how long until the Biden administration/ CIA fucks up trying to kill him?
Would be a sub-potato IQ move since the alternative would be another commie like lula who would join the BRICS. Last president was already dangerously close to both china and russia, heard from a brazilian colleague they let the chinese build a "totally not mililtary" base in the south, and they were gonna build a "totally not a naval base" port in the south thus giving the chinese navy a dangerous level of control over the strait of magellan.

So biden better get some new kneepads and start sucking that argentine dick because on top of all that the country is one of the biggest exporters of lithium in the world, and most of the others are already not on our side.

To all the glowies here: do not fuck this up, do not support another banana republic opposition just because of bad optics like bolsonaro, we can't afford more commies down south. All the other big countries in the region, mexico, chile, brazil, colombia, have gone commie. This is the second biggest country there, we need them on our side or else the entire region is gone.
He criticizes comprehensive LGBTQ+ sex education in schools as a form of 'brainwashing',
It isn't?
supports civilian firearm ownership
I been told that was just a rumor, which must suck for all argentines who want to, like, not die at the hands of a narco, not that journoscum like these actually care about the lives of POCs.
has repeatedly boosted far-right conspiracies and misinformation
They never list the conspiracies and misinformation, maybe because they are afraid readers will ask questions?
and wants to restrict the immigration of foreign criminals.
>restrict the immigration of foreign criminals.
>immigration of foreign criminals.
>foreign criminals.

How is that a bad thing?

HOW?

Are you saying criminals should be allowed to immigrate to a country? how is that a good thing for the locals? I swear when I read shit like this I feel I'm talking to schizos.
 
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He's a lolbert.
He's pro-Israel.

That said, I'm glad he won because it makes globohomo's useful idiots seethe, and arming a populace is never a bad idea.
Oh and public health care failed in the Americas. This is not Northern Europe with high-trust/low crime/managed monocultural populace. Get rid of it. Abortion rights mean jack shit when the socialized health care system takes 10 months to book your abortion date.
Being pro-Israel isn’t degenerate. I’m not necessarily pro-Israel, but supporting the existence of a country is not degenerate. Degeneracy is stuff like having orgies and listening to Miles Davis’ 80s records.

There are a lot of shitty takes from people with little to no understanding of Argentina and South American politics. Argentina is so fucking socialist at this point it’s borderline Communist. People who call themselves libertarians are not lolberts, or members of the Libertarian party in America. ‘Libertarians’ in South America are better called (Classical) liberals or just plain old conservatives. They support free market economics and are socially conservative. They are anti-immigration. They support cutting back the heavy police state measures common in South American countries (and ultimately will be anywhere with a civil law system without Constitutional protections).

This is in total contrast with America where Libertarianism is synonymous to being a complete retard because Libertarians will latch onto the complete dismantling of the social framework of their country in the name of some retarded ideology, and importing brown people because ‘hur dur cheap labor’. It’s akin to the most retarded aspects of the French Revolution but more gay because Libertarians are usually pro-gay if not gay themselves.

Seriously, South American countries are so pozzed by a combination of Catholic guilt, power-hungry politicians, and attempts at controlling crime, that they have years of retarded socialist policies essentially built-in at this point. A little bit of free market libertarianism is desperately needed.
 
Even though he's a jew lover who won't join BRICS, I think there are way more steps forward than backward here.
You're a retard if you think joining BRICS is a good idea and isn't a corrupt, teetering house of cards.

"My country's dollary-doos are spinning down the toilet, I should pin my dollary-doos on two countries notorious for their financial malfeasance scandals."

Almost every take I've read passed page 3 is a series of brainlet takes.

"B-b-bu-but he's with the JOOOS" who fucking cares?
 
Any country with 140% annual inflation is gonna get shocked one way or another,
With this kind of inflation you no longer have a middle class. You don't even have a working-class with any kind of savings. You don't even have functioning economy since no one is willing to take on investments that may take more than a few months to complete. You just can not run any long term project any mire.

So, the decision to just abandon their currency and use USD instead is brave but probably the right thing to do. You lose control of your fiscals that way but hey, you are at over 100% inflation rate anyway so ...

Switching to USD will be a shock but it will stop inflation right away. It will also stop the printing-press go brrrr which also means that you can not run a deficit anymore. That happens immediately. The government and its buerocracies will have to adjust to run at 0 deficit and balance the books. From day one.

This will be interesting to watch.
 
You're a retard if you think joining BRICS is a good idea and isn't a corrupt, teetering house of cards.

"My country's dollary-doos are spinning down the toilet, I should pin my dollary-doos on two countries notorious for their financial malfeasance scandals."

Almost every take I've read passed page 3 is a series of brainlet takes.

"B-b-bu-but he's with the JOOOS" who fucking cares?
Joining BRICS doesn't actually cost anything. Of course, it comes with no real benefits either.
 
Milei wants to:
-legalize the sale of children and human organs
-abolish public healthcare, education, and transportation
-abandon monetary sovereignty and adopt the US dollar

Argentina was invited to join BRICS, but far-right president-elect Javier Milei has pledged to withdraw. The extremist boasted: "Our geopolitical alignment is with the U.S. and Israel. We are not going to align with communists"

In his platform, Argentina's extremist "libertarian" fascist president-elect Javier Milei calls for a Pinochet-style regime:
-"militarization of the institutions during the transition"
-building for-profit "public-private" prisons
-making it easier to imprison people
-mandating forced labor for prisoners
-reducing the age of being considered a minor
-creating a nationwide surveillance network of cameras with facial recognition technology

Responding to far-right president-elect Javier Milei's plan to adopt the US dollar as Argentina's currency to fight inflation, renowned development economist Ha-Joon Chang said this is “insane”, warning dollarization would make Argentina a US “colony”

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This all reads like "trust me bro".
Please don't use the USD as your currency, choose something sane like gold or bitcoin.
You want them to carry fucking gold coins around like a 17th century pirate? use a sketchy coin controlled by a few whales that can pull a 200% devaluation (and thus inflation) overnight? they would rather stick with the peso.
The west despite our quisling elites in charge is on the same china is a threat to the global west narrative.
Our elites want to have their cake and eat it too, they want a well mannered milquetoast socialist-progressive who will flood their mostly conservative and religious country with our first-world cultural revolution of LGTV+UHD and reverse racism insanity, but somehow remain staunchly pro-america, support israel and against china and russia.

That's how we ended with lula in brazil, petro in colombia, amlo in mexico and boric in chile. The only people over there who believe in this "progressive" (if you can call it progress) shit plain HATE our asses, I saw it at every place I went. They blame us for everything, even the shit they did to themselves and specially the shit their previous commie governments did, because we somehow sabotaged their plan of doing retarded shit and expecting good results.

The only people over there who agree with us are the most conservative old school traditionalists, like I said biden is gonna have to STFU and suck it, Argentina its probably the only major player over there that its still not china+russia-aligned yet.

My hope is that after seeing the armies of lefties, feminists, minorities and immigrants here going 100% pro-palestine and anti-israel our elites have finally realized they fucked up because now even our lefties in our soil are like that.
Argentina is going to change to USD which is get the country expensive
As long as wages and taxes are lower than in other countries it will remain competitive no matter what currency they use. Doing a currency devaluation to boost the economy its bullshit economics, its what the chinese do all the time which is why they have to put all kinds of insane currency controls and make it illegal to exchange the yuan for anything else, because if the chinese could they would use anything but the yuan.
This will be interesting to watch.
From a distance sure, for those over there? I don't think so.
 
Disclaimer: I'm a slavmutt commie, I do however believe in coexistence with other civilizations. After all, nowhere but US of A could sustain the Farms.

He isn't planning to peg the value. Milei wants to shut down the Argentinian central bank and make USD the official currency.
This is ultra-retarded but may just be the cost of getting elected. The Bolsheviks made concessions, too.
I know actual commies opposing abortion and alphabet stuff, that isn't exclusively rw.
Oh hai.

-abolish public healthcare,
"In 2015, the World Health Organization cited Argentina as an exemplary country for providing transgender rights."
education,
The higher education grift needs to be reined in.
and transportation
This is bad, you gotta have trains.

-making it easier to imprison people
-mandating forced labor for prisoners
Good.
-reducing the age of being considered a minor
W.r.t. crime? very good. W.r.t. consent to sexual exploitation, too? bad but offset by the benefits of greater criminal liability.
-creating a nationwide surveillance network of cameras with facial recognition technology
Not very lolbert of him, and bad for a politically unstable country, but not inherently evil.
 
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Not taking this hopium yet. Is there any chance he can or will make changes by force if the system cockblocks him? (assuming he’s even serious)
 
Argentina will now likely see 4 years of the dipshit western european politicians trying to sabotage the country using a bunch of BS excuses.
this past saturday a friend told me that this dude i used to be friends with needed to the other candidate sergio massa (that's him btw) to win because the work he's in is connected to some mob retards from the truck's union in argentina. otherwise, he'll be protesting, cutting down the streets and destroying stuff soon-- this is what they did when in 2015 they ("peronistas/kirchneristas" the same people with massa) lost to mauricio macri: everyday protesting and not letting the country keep going by blocking streets.
 
In a unsurprising turns of events, Petro (Colombia's current president, cringe leftist) decides to seethe on Twitter while responding to Duque congratulating Milei (Colombia last president, right winger), he has done that everytime the left loses an election in Latin America (translation is provided in the screenshot)
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and Then Bukele (Salvador current President, extremely based) decides to BTFO him.
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You're a retard if you think joining BRICS is a good idea and isn't a corrupt, teetering house of cards.

"My country's dollary-doos are spinning down the toilet, I should pin my dollary-doos on two countries notorious for their financial malfeasance scandals."

Almost every take I've read passed page 3 is a series of brainlet takes.

"B-b-bu-but he's with the JOOOS" who fucking cares?
This is your first big, uh... "far-right" election isn't it? Well enjoy the high, kiddo. It's not gonna last very long.
 
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