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Exaggerated waists in a literal cartoon are haram in Western cartoons now. I loved Aurora and Cinderella as a kid; their dresses, looks and mannerisms are so pretty. I especially like golden hair like Aurora's. And ringlets.
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Blondes, Gingers (Depending on how they do it), and Ravens are the best.
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You have to be a racially ambiguous goblino now, pretty thin white girls are illegal (except in Asia). It's not just about the male gaze like they think, many little girls and even grown women love pretty princesses and stuff.
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When do you think this shit will peak, at least in the media? I personally think civilization itself will all collapse come the death of Gen X, but what do you think?
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I can't see civilization coming to an end, they always say it will but it never does. I think this shit will last as long as we have such big populations of non-whites in white countries.
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What I mean is Gen X seem to be the last true "maintanence" generation, i.e. the last group of people with the skillset to maintain what boomers and previous built.
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I am not an artfag at all and don't know technical terms but I love beautiful animation. There's something I don't like about 3D animation like Tangled, Frozen, Wish etc. It's lacking something, and not just the effort of hand-drawing. Like it can't convey the same stuff. At least 3D films like Tangled had good music though and not this clunky, awkward dogshit from Wish.
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2010 legit was the beginning of the end of animation, the last hurrah. It was practically the last year that had hits from nearly every studio, even introduced Illumination to the world. Was such a strange year, in hindsight.
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The last passable Disney film to me was Encanto. You don't have to like the movie and I don't think it's perfect but it had some cultural significance and was enjoyed by all ages. Zero children or adults are being convinced to see Wish and no one talks about it positively. That's how I know it's going to bomb this month and I'll be shocked if it doesn't.
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Honestly the idea of a villain couple would've really been interesting since it seems like something Disney never did before. Usually all their villains are single or the love interest they do have is in the dark about the plan. So of course they got rid of one of the few interesting ideas.
Encanto also had more interesting characters in the cast compared to Wish especially with very vibrant and diverse designs that stand out. Wish's designs almost feel bland or poorly done. The only designs that really stand out are the King and Crippled Asian.
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Back then the princesses literally had action reference actors, their proportions aren't realistic but how actresses used to be (or at least tried to attain)
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We've had villain male-female duos before, but they weren't couples and the woman was always the mastermind, so it would be neat.
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Elemental was surprisingly good, if pretty unoriginal in terms of storytelling.
They feel bland and poorly done because they are bland and poorly done. If you would all indulge me my art sperging- One thing I noticed with Asha's design is that her skin and dress are very similar values, and there is very little overall contrast in her design (alternately, this is why diverse Asian actually looks ok- lots of contrast happening between her dark red tunic, light skin, dark hair, with a nice high contrast hair tie to pull your eye up)
Rapunzel has the closest look clothing-wise, but there's a distinct dark skirt and lighter top. Our eyes naturally seek out the highest point of contrast in an image, and for characters that should be the face. Rapunzel's hair has bright gold highlights, again pulling the eye to the face.
Edit- she also has two vertical lines all the way up her dress, again guiding the eye around the design and upwards.
Now Esmerelda- who is much closer to Asha's skin and hair, but we have a bright white tunic, not to mention vertical lines in the corset, and the curved skirt line, all of which guide the eye upwards to her face. (In some frames her hair tie also works as a brilliant guiding line)
Our brains like contrast, and they like to follow visual lines. Asha's character design doesn't make use of either, resulting in a bland appearance.
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No kidding. In recent years, I went to the new Academy Museum of Motion Pictures in Los Angeles. One room that was specifically about animated films included a small slideshow display about the cartoon no-no's of the past. This was mainly to do with minstrels and the like, but about half of the content and the cartoons they cited to be lumped into this pile of shame genuinely pissed me off when I saw them:
I found a couple of articles talking about this particular display:
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You just reminded me that in their attempts to make Asha some kind of activist, they have completely forgotten that they already had someone who could've technically counted as an activist, and that is Esmeralda. Mulan, too, to an extent given she willingly chose to go into the military to take her father's place and therefore is someone to look up to, but she didn't do it to change the world. Hell, Vanellope could be an activist since she chose to give up monarchy to establish some form of democracy, albeit in a rather numbskull way (let's be honest, but she is essentially a kid). Esmeralda is the first because was rather outspoken about her people's plights and being prejudiced by holier-than-thou people, though she didn't exactly do so in attempt to change the world, either.
Now Esmerelda
(Yeah, we arguably have Belle, but she just wanted adventure, not to change the world. There's also Jasmine, but she's not an activist just because she wanted to go travel the world to see what's out there.)
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I am a redhead brunette man.
Every year makes me forget more and more how great Disney was. I even miss the DVD sequel era.
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I would rather have at least half of those sequel films in Kingdom Hearts over much of nu 2020s Disney.
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Most of the 2020's films aren't suited to being adapted as stories anyway, they're a lot of interpersonal shit.
I would say that the difference is that Esmerelda was faced with challenge and hardship and overcame it, while Asha was faced with inconvenience, maybe mild unfairness if we're being kind.
If Esmerelda does nothing, Frollo burns her and wipes out her people. If Asha does nothing, then... nothing. Less than nothing, even would literally be better off.
I've seen this shift in a few places, not just Disney, but old characters used to go after what they wanted. New characters go after what they think they're owed.