Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[The Lawgiver]

Yeah, I believe it is closer to what flash/ toon boom is. They are 2d pieces done as vector art, though you can tell Moho the approximate shape of things, kind of like making a 2d mesh that the texture is a skin upon. They are showing off how well it automatically extrapulates behavior, and then you just sort of adjust it.

I think it's more like how Friendship is Magic or Blue were/are made. Essentially a cut out puppet with that circle being where the strings attack to cycle through pre-rigged motions. I think this is probably how Disney handles many of their modern "TV" series.

it's how a lot of western productions have been for a while now. There's ways to make it more subtle or even just straight up do frame by frame in these kinds of programs but no studios take that extra step because too much effort or something. Also they're usually a lot less smooth than that demo video lmao.

 

[madethistocomment]

It is possible to create wonderful, great-looking animation in Flash and similar programs. I always point to Motorcity as an example of genuinely amazing Flash animation- that shit looked fantastic in 2012 and still looks fantastic today. It just takes a lot of extra time and money, which is probably why Motorcity got strangled in its crib and canceled after one season despite audiences loving it.

 

[starborn427614]

It is possible to create wonderful, great-looking animation in Flash and similar programs. I always point to Motorcity as an example of genuinely amazing Flash animation- that shit looked fantastic in 2012 and still looks fantastic today. It just takes a lot of extra time and money, which is probably why Motorcity got strangled in its crib and canceled after one season despite audiences loving it.

Heard nothing but good things about this. One for the backlog, maybe.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Some autist made a three-part (now put together into a convenient single video) review going over how much character assassination and retconning happened to justify the plot. For instance: Woody was absolutely willing to abandon his family and Andy to join Bo Peep in the box when she was being given away. That's in the prologue of the movie.

The TL;DR is the director (who had never directed a Pixar movie before) threw out about 75% of the original script once Lasseter was kicked out and sabotaged the film to destroy his legacy while claiming to have always been a huge fan. After he won the Oscar because the Academy is paid off by Disney, he fucked off from Pixar.

That's why fixing it with a sequel no one asked for is a herculean challenge. How the fuck do you make it convincing without being obvious you are trying to make the previous movie non-canon? I don't know if any fanfiction exists that was able to pull that off.

So I finally got around to watching this gigantic video.

While the guy comes across as a huge sperg, and he does get very very very nitpicky at some points, his overall sentiments on TS4 are pretty spot on.

Watching these clips again, I am astonished by how unlikable Bo Peep is in this. And the trend of basically writing characters for a celebrity is pretty annoying when what they used to do is write the character and then cast a celebrity that matches.

I mean, its cool that they got Ned Beatty and Kelsey Grammar to voice Lotso and Stinky Pete, but something tells me they had those characters figured out before casting the perfect voices for them, while Keanu and Key and Peele's characters (whose names I don't even remember) feel like they were written for the expressed purpose of getting a celebrity voice, which feels beneath Pixar, or at least what Pixar used to be.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

And in the second film itself, you have self insert gender blob trying to fuck a married woman, which is disturbing enough in a kids film, though I guess is inline with Disney adult love of cuckold porn.

What are you talking about? I've seen incredibles 2 and I have no memory of this.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

 

[Michael Wade]

This wait for Kingdom Hearts IV is eating at me. I hope they go back to the near-yearly release eventually. It seemed to work for the most part for a good while.

It's the next gen stuff man. Takes forever to make games these days. If nothing else missing link looks like it and rebirth will tide us over for a while.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

They know, they just don't care, and are incapable of changing even if they did care. Honestly, the funniest timeline will be if Peltz takes over the board, forces all the remaining "creatives" to accept his directives and change tack. The resulting abominations will be astounding to behold. I really believe this is the timeline we're getting, the only question is if they actually release the movies after they're made.

I mean can you imagine a movie made by current Disney people, but meant to pander to normies and the people who have abandoned Disney? I literally can't imagine it, but I really, REALLY want to see what it is.

 

[The Lawgiver]

It is possible to create wonderful, great-looking animation in Flash and similar programs. I always point to Motorcity as an example of genuinely amazing Flash animation- that shit looked fantastic in 2012 and still looks fantastic today. It just takes a lot of extra time and money, which is probably why Motorcity got strangled in its crib and canceled after one season despite audiences loving it.

A lot of 2000s frame by frame shows were animated in Flash as well but it wasn't usually super obvious. I can't remember if this s right or not and it's suddenly hard for me to find info on this shit with current SEO but I'm pretty sure the 2002 he man reboot was animated in flash.

 

[sadrefrigerator]

Flash is just the animation medium. Good animation is going to be drawn frame by frame and is going to be expensive and take a long time no matter what format you play it on.

 

[Betonhaus]

They know, they just don't care, and are incapable of changing even if they did care. Honestly, the funniest timeline will be if Peltz takes over the board, forces all the remaining "creatives" to accept his directives and change tack. The resulting abominations will be astounding to behold. I really believe this is the timeline we're getting, the only question is if they actually release the movies after they're made.

I mean can you imagine a movie made by current Disney people, but meant to pander to normies and the people who have abandoned Disney? I literally can't imagine it, but I really, REALLY want to see what it is.

Remember that AI poster of 'Caust by Pixar?

 

[Blue Gem Kosher Queen]

This shit gets me incredibly angry. I can't even call it "irrational anger" because my anger is in response to the irrational cherrypicking shit going on here and blatant racism in framing cross-racial casting in VA work as an ancient backwards racist thing while showing shit from the last few decades as the examples.

Try to hold a laugh when you contrast this with pushing for including more minorities in what are meant to be historical dramas an recreations because "we are showing history as it should have been". Making the affirmative action memes look more depressing.

Here comes a question: since Disney has the rights to Oz, why the fuck do they keep making up fictitious faux-medieval yuro kingdoms that have NYC demographics? Hear me out, you can make a legitimate point that the Oz books are one of the few instances of a distinctive and purely American fantasy book in comparison with what most people understand as a fairy tales and Baum himself didn't want to write only for kids so he injected his own perspective on morality and society in his books. Now, I know that you are going to mention Return to Oz but that isn't what I mean with this. Shit like Swamplandia!, The Sasquatch Hunter's Almanac, Dinosaurs, Demon Cooperhead. Go back to Lilo & Stitch basics and use magic realism to tell a personal story that can resonate with someone other than a polycule of Xitter posters.

 

[thediad]

This video goes into spoilers on Wish and for some reason the spoiler function isn't working so all I will say is fucking cringe.

 

[Commander X]

Modern Disney cartoon aesthetics are no different from that of a Thomas Kinkade painting, yet the Extremely Online "animation is cinema!" people in Toon Twitter and elsewhere somehow still have a real nerve to ask why no one takes animation seriously.

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

Modern Disney cartoon aesthetics are no different from that of a Thomas Kinkade painting, yet the Extremely Online "animation is cinema!" people in Toon Twitter and elsewhere somehow still have a real nerve to ask why no one takes animation seriously.

Don't people actually buy Thomas Kinkade paintings?

 

[Mac Monster]

It's nice to see Wish continue Disney's streak of box office bombs. Shit is expected to only make 30 million on a five day weekend which is absolutely disastrous.

 

[Betonhaus]

that rumored hostile takeover can't happen fast enough

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Try to hold a laugh when you contrast this with pushing for including more minorities in what are meant to be historical dramas an recreations because "we are showing history as it should have been". Making the affirmative action memes look more depressing.

Here comes a question: since Disney has the rights to Oz, why the fuck do they keep making up fictitious faux-medieval yuro kingdoms that have NYC demographics? Hear me out, you can make a legitimate point that the Oz books are one of the few instances of a distinctive and purely American fantasy book in comparison with what most people understand as a fairy tales and Baum himself didn't want to write only for kids so he injected his own perspective on morality and society in his books. Now, I know that you are going to mention Return to Oz but that isn't what I mean with this. Shit like Swamplandia!, The Sasquatch Hunter's Almanac, Dinosaurs, Demon Cooperhead. Go back to Lilo & Stitch basics and use magic realism to tell a personal story that can resonate with someone other than a polycule of Xitter posters.

The Fed has schemed to keep Oz suppressed ever since going off the gold standard to the false green of fiat currency that the first book warned of

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Here comes a question: since Disney has the rights to Oz, why the fuck do they keep making up fictitious faux-medieval yuro kingdoms that have NYC demographics? Hear me out, you can make a legitimate point that the Oz books are one of the few instances of a distinctive and purely American fantasy book in comparison with what most people understand as a fairy tales and Baum himself didn't want to write only for kids so he injected his own perspective on morality and society in his books. Now, I know that you are going to mention Return to Oz but that isn't what I mean with this. Shit like Swamplandia!, The Sasquatch Hunter's Almanac, Dinosaurs, Demon Cooperhead. Go back to Lilo & Stitch basics and use magic realism to tell a personal story that can resonate with someone other than a polycule of Xitter posters.

The Fed has schemed to keep Oz suppressed ever since going off the gold standard to the false green of fiat currency that the first book warned of

While a funny idea, the actual reason is likely just Warner Bros.. They have been going pretty hard on the Oz content in their crossovers and want to be fully recognized as the company that owns the original. There was also the bomb that was Oz: The Great and Powerful by Disney in 2013.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

It's nice to see Wish continue Disney's streak of box office bombs. Shit is expected to only make 30 million on a five day weekend which is absolutely disastrous.

What was the box office prediction, then? Did they even try to make it low enough (at like 40 mil or something like that?) to claim they made money or "underperformed" this weekend?