Artcow DisneyFan01 / Andrea Avrett

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Andrea Avrett, aka DisneyFan-01, is a 30-something fan of Disney (as evidenced by her username) based in Orlando, Florida and an employee of a Disneyland candy store (with a job drawing portraits of people's pet on the side, according to her DeviantArt). A graduate of Columbus College of Art and Design in Ohio with a major in Animation, she currently bases her art style on Disney's and even had hopes of working for the company as a 2D animator. However, the art she has posted on her first (banned) and current DeviantArt accounts is heavily referenced, if not outright traced, from prior images.
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Avrett is known on the internet for her fanfiction, Faith of the Heart, a multi-part piece featuring her original character, Marina Seadrift. Seadrift is currently written as the 32-year-old adoptive daughter of Mickey and Minnie Mouse (King and Queen of the Magic Kingdom here), a lifelong friend of their staff, the biological daughter of the Lord High Chancellor of Treasure Planet's Terran Empire, and the eventual love interest to Treasure Planet's iteration of Long John Silver.
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This last tidbit is baffling to those readers who aren't merely kissing her ass, as not only is Silver unattractive to look at, Avrett's version of the pirate bears little to no resemblance to the character presented in the movie. However, she defends pairing Silver with her OC (and her IRL crush on him) quite vehemently, and she has even rejected the idea of love in favor of pining over a Silver roleplay account on DA in the past.

But Marina is no damsel in distress! She helps Donald, Goofy, Silver, and assorted characters from Disney and other intellectual properties fight Nightmares, small monstrous beings that target the light in people's hearts, and Maleficent, their mistress. Sound familiar?

Unfortunately, she doesn't really focus on illustrating the fight scenes. The drawings in her gallery focus more on SilverxMarina moments, or illustrations related to Star Trek. So the only picture I can use to show you what I mean is this file from ED.
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Oddly enough, Marina has been in development for over 15 years. According to Avrett herself, she began life as a Sailor Moon OC, Sailor Neptune to be exact. Even after the real Sailor Neptune appeared, a young Avrett continued to write Marina as the Outer Scout. Sometime later, she began to incorporate Dragon Ball Z into her stories, where Marina eventually became the love interest to Piccolo. The couple's relationship evolved to the point where they wound up having a daughter.
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That all changed when Avrett saw Treasure Planet in theaters and became infatuated with Long John Silver. Soon enough, Marina's history with Piccolo was no more, and Marina was retooled as the heroine of Kingdom Hearts Faith of the Heart.

While Avrett herself is not as eccentric as many of the cows featured on this forum, she has still shown to be quite touchy when it comes to perceived criticism of her work. In addition to snippily replying to these comments, this has led to Avrett "retooling" Marina's backstory in a way that is ultimately pointless in order to shut the critics up. Marina's current iteration is a widow who lost her husband Robert a month into their marriage. As of this writing, Robert is only mentioned whenever Marina needs a reason to angst. Other than that, he doesn't really to be an obstacle to the development of her "relationship" with Silver despite Avrett creating a plot point where Robert tells Madam Leota that Marina cannot see his face until she's found love again.

Avrett does not seem to be big on social media besides DA. After some digging, I've only found her Facebook page.

Updated OP by @CMora. Original OP can be found here: http://archive.is/fmA5Z
 

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Not all lolcows can be a long lasting as Chris, :alog: , or ADF.
As for her trying to un-Mary-Sue her Mary Sue, that's a step foward. Last I heard she wanted to be an animator for Disney or something like that.
Anyway her DA is still open and here's her latest Disney art
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Also she does pet portraits as a business which is actually pretty cool. I like when my lolcows actually grow up*
(like cyndilovespiccolo)

*even if it's a teeny bit
 
Pikonic said:
Not all lolcows can be a long lasting as Chris, :alog: , or ADF.
As for her trying to un-Mary-Sue her Mary Sue, that's a step foward. Last I heard she wanted to be an animator for Disney or something like that.
Anyway her DA is still open and here's her latest Disney art
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/365/1/8/motherly_love_by_disneyfan_01-d709lse.jpg

Also she does pet portraits as a business which is actually pretty cool. I like when my lolcows actually grow up (like cyndilovespiccolo)

I saw the cyndilovespiccolo article and I think it is cool when these people actually grow some sense. I'm happy DF01 is, seemingly, doing better but she's never going to work as an animator (at least for Disney).
 
Dr.Research said:
Pikonic said:
Oh yeah, I remember her.
What's she up too these days?

Apparently, still drawing. I think the trolls and ED crowd got bored of her. She seems to be trying to work Mariana into a not Mary-Sue.
Pikonic said:
As for her trying to un-Mary-Sue her Mary Sue, that's a step foward. Last I heard she wanted to be an animator for Disney or something like that.
Trying and failing. She doesn't even understand how flaws work STILL. And it's been, what, about 13 years since she first created Marina? She's made little to no progress. Marina still gets her way every time. I find it funny how she keeps up claims that something in Marina's character was "in the old version only" yet it's still there in the new version. She's also trying to un-Sue her by asking people what they want in Marina, which is disastrous.

She thinks being scared of the dark is a fatal flaw. Now, a fear CAN be a flaw if it consumes you and gets in the way of the character's development. Marina hasn't shown this in the least. And despite how she acts (which is still like a spoiled 5 year old, even in the most recent chapters), she was allowed to go on the journey in the first place just because "she wants to be an explorer." I'd also like to add that the author stated she can't be trusted with normal weapons (yet magic swords are fine?!) because of her volatile temper. As in she will attack someone with the weapon just because she's mad. Add in all her other issues that STILL exist and we have a nutcase who should never have been allowed to go.

Really, there has been little to no progress. "Good for her," but she still doesn't (or refuses to?) understand writing or what she's doing wrong.

btw, it's been 57-58+ chapters as of this writing and we're just now starting to get into the actual plot. (Seriously. I talked to her and she told me that we're about to get to the major plot, which was first mentioned in chapter 4.)

She also still doesn't understand light sources.

I think there was a thread on her already, but I digress. I apologize for the rant.
 
MysticMisty said:
Well she seems to be improving the technique (assuming she's not still tracing), but the shading needs a lot more work. She must not use layers.

I remember on ED there was a mock tutorial where someone showed you how to trace draw the DF01 way and at one part the person making the tutorial made a snide comment about how it's ok to use gaudy and eye-searingly bright colors on one layer because layers are for losers with no talent. It made me lol.
 
caffeinated_wench said:
Trying and failing. She doesn't even understand how flaws work STILL. And it's been, what, about 13 years since she first created Marina? She's made little to no progress. Marina still gets her way every time. I find it funny how she keeps up claims that something in Marina's character was "in the old version only" yet it's still there in the new version. She's also trying to un-Sue her by asking people what they want in Marina, which is disastrous.

She thinks being scared of the dark is a fatal flaw. Now, a fear CAN be a flaw if it consumes you and gets in the way of the character's development. Marina hasn't shown this in the least. And despite how she acts (which is still like a spoiled 5 year old, even in the most recent chapters), she was allowed to go on the journey in the first place just because "she wants to be an explorer." I'd also like to add that the author stated she can't be trusted with normal weapons (yet magic swords are fine?!) because of her volatile temper. As in she will attack someone with the weapon just because she's mad. Add in all her other issues that STILL exist and we have a nutcase who should never have been allowed to go.

Really, there has been little to no progress. "Good for her," but she still doesn't (or refuses to?) understand writing or what she's doing wrong.

btw, it's been 57-58+ chapters as of this writing and we're just now starting to get into the actual plot. (Seriously. I talked to her and she told me that we're about to get to the major plot, which was first mentioned in chapter 4.)

She also still doesn't understand light sources.

I think there was a thread on her already, but I digress. I apologize for the rant.

Yeah, her artwork did improve somewhat, but her attitude towards constructive critique certainly hasn't. If you so much as bring up Marina's lack of depth to her, as well as ways to try and remedy it, she ignores it and says Marina has plenty of flaws (as if flaws are all that are need to make an interesting, well-rounded character), and that she doesn't need help.
 
Substrain-Seven said:
caffeinated_wench said:
Trying and failing. She doesn't even understand how flaws work STILL. And it's been, what, about 13 years since she first created Marina? She's made little to no progress. Marina still gets her way every time. I find it funny how she keeps up claims that something in Marina's character was "in the old version only" yet it's still there in the new version. She's also trying to un-Sue her by asking people what they want in Marina, which is disastrous.

She thinks being scared of the dark is a fatal flaw. Now, a fear CAN be a flaw if it consumes you and gets in the way of the character's development. Marina hasn't shown this in the least. And despite how she acts (which is still like a spoiled 5 year old, even in the most recent chapters), she was allowed to go on the journey in the first place just because "she wants to be an explorer." I'd also like to add that the author stated she can't be trusted with normal weapons (yet magic swords are fine?!) because of her volatile temper. As in she will attack someone with the weapon just because she's mad. Add in all her other issues that STILL exist and we have a nutcase who should never have been allowed to go.

Really, there has been little to no progress. "Good for her," but she still doesn't (or refuses to?) understand writing or what she's doing wrong.

btw, it's been 57-58+ chapters as of this writing and we're just now starting to get into the actual plot. (Seriously. I talked to her and she told me that we're about to get to the major plot, which was first mentioned in chapter 4.)

She also still doesn't understand light sources.

I think there was a thread on her already, but I digress. I apologize for the rant.

Yeah, her artwork did improve somewhat, but her attitude towards constructive critique certainly hasn't. If you so much as bring up Marina's lack of depth to her, as well as ways to try and remedy it, she ignores it and says Marina has plenty of flaws (as if flaws are all that are need to make an interesting, well-rounded character), and that she doesn't need help.
Yeah. Her art has improved, I'll give her that much.

But her attitude isn't much better, that's for sure. Afraid of the dark... fatal flaw... :C
I feel like she just refuses to understand. HER WORK IS PERFECT, DAMMIT.
It takes more than flaws to have an interesting character, for sure. A lot of the so-called "flaws" aren't flaws at all. Actually, none of those could be flaws. Marina acts like such a childish bitch yet it doesn't cause her problems. Just half-assed scolding that doesn't stick and "That's our Marina! lol" If this were more realistic, she'd be an outright threat to the mission.

DF doesn't understand that. Right now, Marina has more flaws than good qualities. The flaws don't really affect her aside from making her unbearable to the readers. That's a HUGE problem and why Marina isn't very well received by anyone who actually has any brain cells.

It really bothers me that she still neglects that Marina's "imagination" and childishness isn't cute for a woman in her 30s. It screams "mental illness."
 
Oh my Glob( typo but I'm going with it. I like it.) DisneyFan01 is my faaavorite lolcow. She's hilarious! Oh and I've seen the current incarnations of Marina. She went from Mary Sue to God mode power kill sue. Last I checked Marina was the key blade master, a princess, magical fairy-type thing, could fly (but only sometimes) swordsman, master sailor, navigator, cartographer, artist, and singer.
 
caffeinated_wench said:
Yeah. Her art has improved, I'll give her that much.

But her attitude isn't much better, that's for sure. Afraid of the dark... fatal flaw... :C
I feel like she just refuses to understand. HER WORK IS PERFECT, DAMMIT.
It takes more than flaws to have an interesting character, for sure. A lot of the so-called "flaws" aren't flaws at all. Actually, none of those could be flaws. Marina acts like such a childish bitch yet it doesn't cause her problems. Just half-assed scolding that doesn't stick and "That's our Marina! lol" If this were more realistic, she'd be an outright threat to the mission.

DF doesn't understand that. Right now, Marina has more flaws than good qualities. The flaws don't really affect her aside from making her unbearable to the readers. That's a HUGE problem and why Marina isn't very well received by anyone who actually has any brain cells.

It really bothers me that she still neglects that Marina's "imagination" and childishness isn't cute for a woman in her 30s. It screams "mental illness."

Marina is what many might call an Anti-Sue. DF bogs her down with flaws, being under the impression that it's what makes a good, believable non-Mary-sue. Her OC has no redeeming personality traits, least none that I could garner. I, along with many other folks with good intentions, have tried speaking to her on the subject, and how she can improve her writing and character building. Instead, she insists that Marina is perfect the way she is, and everybody loves her.

That's just it. Everyone in her stories loves Marina despite her crippling flaws. No one pauses and thinks, "Hold on, this woman is a problem and needs help. Why are we kissing the ground she walks on?"
 
littlebiscuits said:
Oh my Glob( typo but I'm going with it. I like it.) DisneyFan01 is my faaavorite lolcow. She's hilarious! Oh and I've seen the current incarnations of Marina. She went from Mary Sue to God mode power kill sue. Last I checked Marina was the key blade master, a princess, magical fairy-type thing, could fly (but only sometimes) swordsman, master sailor, navigator, cartographer, artist, and singer.
If I remember correctly, that description is rather apt.
What is it with Suethors and amazing singing...?
Gah. And she can play the piano well.
I remember it was described that she was not only a beautiful singer but was complimented because "it sounds like [she] sings when she speaks" or some bullshit like that.

And remember, she's ALMOST a princess. Gah. That pisses me off. SO SPESHUL.

Last I read, she and Genie/"Gene" (gah, her fucking nicknames, even when she's supposed to refer to the person respectfully) disappear for two whole days without telling anyone to go sight-seeing on their own (when they were given orders, although they fulfilled them quickly because who cares about anything other than Marina?) just because she thought it'd be funny to piss off the captain when she's already been warned about pulling that shit AND when they were needed back to help with repairs. And she gives more information than necessary to show off her smarts (read: to show that her author can read wikipedia articles).

I'm beating a dead horse, but with how Marina is I'd be terrified if she was allowed along on my adventure.

Substrain-Seven said:
Marina is what many might call an Anti-Sue. DF bogs her down with flaws, being under the impression that it's what makes a good, believable non-Mary-sue. Her OC has no redeeming personality traits, least none that I could garner. I, along with many other folks with good intentions, have tried speaking to her on the subject, and how she can improve her writing and character building. Instead, she insists that Marina is perfect the way she is, and everybody loves her.

That's just it. Everyone in her stories loves Marina despite her crippling flaws. No one pauses and thinks, "Hold on, this woman is a problem and needs help. Why are we kissing the ground she walks on?"
I can't believe I forgot about that term, and I spent at least two years reading up on Sues to better understand where I was going wrong with my own characters in their original incarnations.

I've inquired about Marina only to get flat out ignored after asking about fatal flaws. She refuses to see how very annoying Marina would be to sane characters/people. Not even the Disney folks would put up with her shit, contrary to what DF thinks.
 
The thing that always bugged me about Marina was that she was 30/31 yet acts like a little girl. I try to imagine a 30 year old acting like Marina, weeping, crying, stamping her feet when she's angry and I just can't.

And like, her big flaw right now is that she can't cook. Alright, well, not everyone can cook, nothing the matter there. But must you play up the whole lethal chef thing? It's sooo overdone and again, a little weird for a 30 year old to be like, "lol what are carrots?".
 
littlebiscuits said:
The thing that always bugged me about Marina was that she was 30/31 yet acts like a little girl. I try to imagine a 30 year old acting like Marina, weeping, crying, stamping her feet when she's angry and I just can't.

And like, her big flaw right now is that she can't cook. Alright, well, not everyone can cook, nothing the matter there. But must you play up the whole lethal chef thing? It's sooo overdone and again, a little weird for a 30 year old to be like, "lol what are carrots?".
That bugs me a lot too. And the characters act like it's so adorable for her to be acting this way when it really isn't. And her "imagination" comes off as her being schizophrenic or some other mental shit. That's not cute, DF; that's disturbing.

Another big flaw, told to me by DF herself, is that Marina is scared of the dark. Not only that, but it's a fatal flaw. Like I said, it COULD be a flaw if it actually did anything. Nope. This is not how flaws work, DF. It's been 13 years, for fuck's sake.

Gah. Then again, considering how she does stereotypes to death, I'm not surprised about the cooking thing.

I've already mentioned this part about Marina going along, but I have a huge problem with her being allowed to go along not because she'd be a valuable asset to the team but because spoiled little princess would want to go and wanted to be an explorer.
 
Oh the fear of the dark thing is a huge problem especially considering she constantly forgets that Marina is even supposed to be afraid of the dark. Marina will be off stargazing or walking around in a cave and that's totally fine, but the second someone blows out a candle in the living room Marina utterly loses her shit and cries. And when she does remember, Silver is always there to be like, "It's okay baby, I'm here. Now let me eat your entire face."
 
littlebiscuits said:
Oh the fear of the dark thing is a huge problem especially considering she constantly forgets that Marina is even supposed to be afraid of the dark. Marina will be off stargazing or walking around in a cave and that's totally fine, but the second someone blows out a candle in the living room Marina utterly loses her shit and cries. And when she does remember, Silver is always there to be like, "It's okay baby, I'm here. Now let me eat your entire face."

Methinks DF doesn't know how phobias work. Either that or she just has trouble with continuity, in general.
 
OM NOM NOM NOM NOM VIRGIN FACE.


....Isn't she, like, still a virgin despite having a husband?
I hate how she just tacked the husband on.
And anyone who has sex with someone that isn't their true love is awful and sinful, apparently. Isn't that the gist of her thought process?

I remember she gave a flimsy excuse about not making deadly sins flaws for Marina (or any of the characters, really) because she's Catholic.
 
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