Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

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i'm weening myself off entertainment so i can focus on my writing
but to be fair i still browse the internet
oh, ok, so you have interests; you're just feeling a void as you trade easy, addictive, passive activity for something more effort-based yet more rewarding. That's a good thing! (Ime, once you get over the initial hump of the "loss" of mindless "activity" and redirect to worthwhile things that make you feel good and purposeful, you may occasionally pause to wonder how you spent so much time on nothing.
 
I mean, I can relate in the sense that I don't think "femoids" would respond positively to any of my interests. I always thought acting boring would work out better for me.
Are your interests like... Warhammer or something? Gunpla? Guns? I'm having trouble thinking of something that would really repel me from a guy. It would have to involve dead things, but even something like taxidermy would be fine.

I'm married, so I'm not really eligible to give good dating advice, but I'm way more excited about guys who are excited about something. When you're boring, and don't have anything to talk about, I don't see any reason to engage, y'know? What am I supposed to talk to you about if you don't do anything? How do I know you'll be compatible if you don't do anything?

Also, how do I know you'll enjoy talking to me? Without knowing your interests, I'm less likely to share mine, because I don't know how you'll respond.
 
You should not be seeking advice from the sort of women that post on KF.
I think the femoids of Kiwifarms are the only ones anti-social enough to give Anon the unvarnished truth and not give a shit about his feelings. If he asked this shit on reddit, he'd just get endless platitudes about "Just be yourself sweety" from Men pretending to be women. If he did it on 4chan, the bots would just show Blacked porn and tell him to just accept the BBC.
 
Are your interests like... Warhammer or something? Gunpla? Guns? I'm having trouble thinking of something that would really repel me from a guy. It would have to involve dead things, but even something like taxidermy would be fine.

I'm married, so I'm not really eligible to give good dating advice, but I'm way more excited about guys who are excited about something. When you're boring, and don't have anything to talk about, I don't see any reason to engage, y'know? What am I supposed to talk to you about if you don't do anything? How do I know you'll be compatible if you don't do anything?

Also, how do I know you'll enjoy talking to me? Without knowing your interests, I'm less likely to share mine, because I don't know how you'll respond.

Strangely (or perhaps not, depends on one's perspective), Taxidermy and associated interests are more common among women than men.
 
How to get into skincare? Im mid twenties so i figure theres still something to be saved in my case but without family or rl womenfriends its kinda hard to get into cus if i ask my friends im just called a faggit and im pretty sure most of them just wing it anyway.
I'm pointing you to an answer in the Skincare thread. This is a good place to place to start: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/skincare.31649/post-17230681
 
Out of curiosity, why don't you want advice? The obvious advice is, of course, find things to enjoy - for yourself, for your quality of life, for your health, for your brain - even putting aside that it's a good idea in terms of interpersonal interactions.

I feel kind of obligated to respond to your post given the effort you put in. Everyone has small hobbies and I am no exception it's just I don't think mine are particularly impressive. I like animation, I was never talented in it or capable of producing it, but I like the art form and can identify the trends emerging in that sector along with their technical details. Shooting on 1s/3s the difference between rotoscoping and traditional animation and the limitations of CGI. I also like mtg and have been drafting for around a decade. I am a midrange woodworker, but I haven't done much recently. Although these things bring me joy and meaning, I don't see them as being attractive or anything a woman would care about, so I didn't count them in the question. The advice anyone would give me would not make me creatively skilled in a way a woman would want nor make the things that make me happy attractive to a partner. Thank you for trying though.

And I'm also curious - when you envision a quality, long-term relationship (I'm assuming, based on tone, that's the kind of thing you're looking for/correct me if wrong!), what do you see it looking like? Do you want someone who doesn't have any interests? What does life look like?
Alot of people have asked me this question in this thread and the man hate thread. I feel fulfilled when I know what a person wants and I do everything I can to create it. The best version of it. It doesn't matter how much time it takes or what I have to learn or do to make it. I want more than anything someone who understands that and gives me a challenge or a starting point. Someone who I can make happy through effort, and appreciates the effort I put in to make them happy.

Also I kind of have this fantasy about making them breakfast in bed one morning. I know I'll have made it when I do.
 
Although these things bring me joy and meaning, I don't see them as being attractive or anything a woman would care about, so I didn't count them in the question
I mean, those things sound interesting though? I wouldn’t completely discount that. At least it’s not something bizarre like “I collect spider eggs, but only from the Brazilian golden orb weaver”. Sounds like your main problem is just meeting new people, which yeah it sucks for everyone, so good luck and all.
 
I like animation, I was never talented in it or capable of producing it, but I like the art form and can identify the trends emerging in that sector along with their technical details. Shooting on 1s/3s the difference between rotoscoping and traditional animation and the limitations of CGI.
Okay, but this is cool. Sure, you can't draw, but you know what you're looking at, so you can still talk about it, or point out weird, niche Russian cartoons. Just because you don't participate in, or do the thing you're interested in, doesn't mean it's not worth talking about.
 
Everyone has small hobbies and I am no exception it's just I don't think mine are particularly impressive.
There's a mental categorization thing that guys do here that I don't think women understand what you mean when you say you have no hobbies. It doesn't mean you don't do things that entertain you, it's that you don't have a singular, focused hobby like someone who gets up at six on the weekend to go backpacking or something similar. Passive interests aren't really called hobbies to guys. Interests in things you're not actively doing is just something you don't tell people because it's viewed as minor.
 
Is this just a 4chan Atoga thread from /soc/ with the slightest modicum of effort?
There's a mental categorization thing that guys do here that I don't think women understand what you mean when you say you have no hobbies. It doesn't mean you don't do things that entertain you, it's that you don't have a singular, focused hobby like someone who gets up at six on the weekend to go backpacking or something similar. Passive interests aren't really called hobbies to guys. Interests in things you're not actively doing is just something you don't tell people because it's viewed as minor.
I don't have autism (apart from internet autism) but I do mental categorisation a lot, to the point of overdoing it. People around me call it judgement and treat it negatively but I tend to look at it as classification. I think it's just something which is useful for evaluation and assessment if required, if you're looking at options. I'm extremely risk averse to my detriment and I unfortunately like having a full view/options of what I'm gonna do before I do it. Also language can be confusing (I also measure every word in meaning and context wrt sentences before forming them so might indeed have autism) and the idea of passive and active interests seems like artificial fluff, an interest is an interest, nothing more nothing less, you might not be an expert on said interest but said interest is still there and still engaged in. I'm interested in 20th century history, I like learning about cultures and movements and shit but I'm not actively seeking out bits of info and just take what comes my way, that said I still like talking about that stuff so I wouldn't call it a passive interest based on the definition of passive.
 
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Although these things bring me joy and meaning, I don't see them as being attractive or anything a woman would care about, so I didn't count them in the question. The advice anyone would give me would not make me creatively skilled in a way a woman would want nor make the things that make me happy attractive to a partner. Thank you for trying though.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

I go back to your first comment, which suggested that you don't have anything you enjoy and you wondered if that was the same for any significant number of women in your dating-range. First - glad to hear you do have interests. Second (and the expected response is, "but that's not the point," which I get, but anyway) - keep pursuing stuff you like, with or without a "person.". Sounding like you're selling yourself short to describe yourself as just work and no interests/hobbies, but I understand now you mean, "...that women will like/be intrigued by." And I would suggest that women (people) enjoy/are interested by people who have stuff in their lives, whether or not they share those interests, if that person is also genuine, passably self-assured, and has their shit fairly together.

If you perceive activites/interests as ways to connect with women (they can be), perhaps pick one up (add, not replace) that is more "relatable" or - even better - social. I once taught someone (not an historically athletic person) the basics of tennis (we were both late 30s/he may have been early 40s). He was godawful goofy the first time out, but he took to it and pursued it with zeal - I mean, joined a club/league, hired a coach, went to crazy lengths to learn to play well. Ended up playing hardcore competitively as a hobby for several years (way beyond my level, lol) until health matters got in the way. But going full-bore insane on something aside, just getting involvedled to a vastly increased social circle. He made great friends and had good opportunities to meet women (friends and dating opportunities, both). Did he meet women immediately? Idk for sure (probably could have/did more than he shared with me), but he sure did eventually - he put a lot of time into it, and it's a pretty social activity if one wants. Over time "tennis people" (who all had other dimensions to their lives, ofc) became a huge element of his social life. Point is that there are a lot of activities that are/can be social and that you don't have to have done them for decades or as a teen to learn/enjoy as an adult. It could be tennis, or bowling, or yoga in the park in early mornings. So taking up something that might be foreign to you but puts you around others is one way to meet people. And though there might be relatively few women in a woodworking course or at some studio for it..there could be. Or if you have an option to go into work some days, you could end up doing some after-work socializing that could maybe lead to new acquaintances.

Tl; dr: wfh + all solitary activities does make it hard to meet people. Sounds like it's less an issue of trying to calibrate interests to be "attractive" and more like needing to be out in the world more.

Maybe! But I do think that wfh 100% + solitary time 100%, while cozy, isn't always the best for a well-rounded life, including for seeking companionship, dating, and love.

I feel fulfilled when I know what a person wants and I do everything I can to create it. The best version of it. It doesn't matter how much time it takes or what I have to learn or do to make it. I want more than anything someone who understands that and gives me a challenge or a starting point. Someone who I can make happy through effort, and appreciates the effort I put in to make them happy.
This is very lovely and romantic (I mean that genuinely). Since you're male, I'm not going to remind you (bc you likely do it reflexively) that you need to be a whole and sturdy person, first and foremost (but just in case, I did actually just remind you :-) ).

Also I kind of have this fantasy about making them breakfast in bed one morning. I know I'll have made it when I do.
Maybe. That's a great experience. Might or might not mean everything when it happens, but I know what you mean. It's great to find someone you want to do for and who wants to do for you. There are women out there who would like to share that with you. They are unlikely to knock on your door out of nowhere, though, so put yourself out in the world.
 
I would just like to throw in the tidbit that if you follow the online woodworking community, pretty much 100% of those guys have partners who are into either quilting, knitting or pottery. Especially quilting. ‘Maker’ hobbies are honestly super interesting and they also have a lot of read across. Like, if you and I were talking about woodworking, I have picked up enough from maker communities to follow the discussion, and there’s a lot of stuff that reads across to what I do, which is quilt.

Maker hobbies/interests are genuinely very cross-gender. Also, a dude who can like make and fix things is like, very impressive. You underestimate the value that Not Being Useless has to partners.
 
Also, a dude who can like make and fix things is like, very impressive.
The amount of people in the millenial and younger range who literally cannot fix or make anything and don't want to try is depressing. Anyone with even a minor amount of ability in this or genuine interest to learn is immediately a higher candidate for dating.
 
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