Christian theology thread for Christians - Deus homo factus est naturam erante, mundus renovatus est a Christo regnante

[Sissyagamben]

Orthodoxy broadly rejects metaphysical dialectics, we dont think there is any tension between Christ as man and Christ as God. He is fully and always both. Fuck Hegel, Hegel sucks.

Hegel is one of them real satanic heretics. Through him later came Marxism, and all other critical theories that destroy human civilization. Most ironically his philosophy of history supports such a Christian model of the eschaton, where we will all get dat perfect ultimate meaning. James Lindsey talks about how cultural Marxisms are gnostic cults in disguise, all the pieces fitting in nicely… yes…

Also, hi to Orthodox bro! Waiting for that day the one church divided come into union again amirite I have this sneaky feeling it won’t be too too long. At least more conceivable now than say a hundred years ago…

Also, I gotta brush up on the details of them Greek words. I assumed he’s asking about the divine/human nature of Christ, not the doctrine of the trinity.

 

[Atomic Ant]

Also, I gotta brush up on the details of them Greek words. I assumed he’s asking about the divine/human nature of Christ, not the doctrine of the trinity.

Oh, I misread, youre absolutely right. Hypostasis just means like personage, or identity. So yeah we would say Jesus is one person with two natures; the trinity is 3 people who share a single divine nature. Reading rainbow

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

What should we do about the church getting pozzed? It seems like it's not just one or two Protestant denominations anymore. The Pope is fluffing trannies, and the UMC split over gay marriage. I mean it's not like this is the first time the church has been corrupt, and it doesn't necessarily say anything about the existence of God, but it's still disconcerting. Feels like there just aren't that many places to go anymore.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

What should we do about the church getting pozzed? It seems like it's not just one or two Protestant denominations anymore. The Pope is fluffing trannies, and the UMC split over gay marriage. I mean it's not like this is the first time the church has been corrupt, and it doesn't necessarily say anything about the existence of God, but it's still disconcerting. Feels like there just aren't that many places to go anymore.

It's all been written.

A lot of catholics are just hoping this pope will just 'pass'.

It's difficult to asses how much actual damage he is doing since questioning the pope is a big no-no in catholicism and many people who doesn't approve just go along reluctantly.

But fucker's doing the classic leftist strategy of colonizing every institution at every level with fervorous stooges so that his faggot 'revolution' survives him. Any future based pope will likely find a lot of resistance from individuals appointed by this fucker in key positions.

In any case, just to answer, John Paul II told you what to do back in 1980: "Take a rosary and pray! Pray hard!"

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

It's all been written.

A lot of catholics are just hoping this pope will just 'pass'.

It's difficult to asses how much actual damage he is doing since questioning the pope is a big no-no in catholicism and many people who doesn't approve just go along reluctantly.

But fucker's doing the classic leftist strategy of colonizing every institution at every level with fervorous stooges so that his faggot 'revolution' survives him. Any future based pope will likely find a lot of resistance from individuals appointed by this fucker in key positions.

In any case, just to answer, John Paul II told you what to do back in 1980: "Take a rosary and pray! Pray hard!"

Well I don't disagree with that, but let me be more specific.

Should we continue to attend pozzed church? Should we go to a less pozzed denomination that we might have other theological disagreements with, like the Eastern Orthodox for example? Should we drop out of church entirely, and have some kind of private observance? Should we start our own church, without blackjack and hookers?

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Well I don't disagree with that, but let me be more specific.

Should we continue to attend pozzed church? Should we go to a less pozzed denomination that we might have other theological disagreements with, like the Eastern Orthodox for example? Should we drop out of church entirely, and have some kind of private observance? Should we start our own church, without blackjack and hookers?

It's a difficult question to be answer depending on your specific denomination.

I don't want to PL a lot, but still there are good churches and communities left, especially in bigger cities, and I was surprised to find them where I expected them the less.

 

[Fareal]

It's all been written.

A lot of catholics are just hoping this pope will just 'pass'.

It's difficult to asses how much actual damage he is doing since questioning the pope is a big no-no in catholicism and many people who doesn't approve just go along reluctantly.

But fucker's doing the classic leftist strategy of colonizing every institution at every level with fervorous stooges so that his faggot 'revolution' survives him. Any future based pope will likely find a lot of resistance from individuals appointed by this fucker in key positions.

In any case, just to answer, John Paul II told you what to do back in 1980: "Take a rosary and pray! Pray hard!"

And a lot of Catholics are deeply grateful for the leadership of Francis.

Christ‘s teaching and His message of love has never been conservative. It is radical. It always will be radical.

 

[Dr. Kinder]

They are only equal to us in essense

What do you mean?

Ophite Satanist?

What?

So do Messianic Jews (and demons)

So are you saying Messianic Jews are going to hell because they're not Catholic?

 

[Ewan McGregor]

And a lot of Catholics are deeply grateful for the leadership of Francis

If you think Francis is a good pope, you have not understood anything.

Christ‘s teaching and His message of love has never been conservative. It is radical. It always will be radical.

The moment you start framing the debate between conservative and 'radical', by which I understand you mean 'Progressive', you betray your ignorance.

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

What do you mean?

They share the same redeemable nature as the rest of mankind. They're much further in the salvific journey/progress than we are though

 

[Dr. Kinder]

They share the same redeemable nature as the rest of mankind. They're much further in the salvific journey/progress than we are though

In your other posts, what are you alleging about Messianic Jews, and non-Catholics in general? Do you think they are damned to hell?

 

[Fareal]

If you think Francis is a good pope, you have not understood anything.



The moment you start framing the debate between conservative and 'radical', by which I understand you mean 'Progressive', you betray your ignorance.

I mean radical. The teaching of Christ was radical when He gave it, and it is radical now.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

I mean radical. The teaching of Christ was radical when He gave it, and it is radical now.

Do you think a man who embraces fully the post-modern narrative, flirts with modernism, is a ferocious populist of the Nicolas Maduro brand and contradicts the teachings on the church on a whim so that people who hate Christ and Christianity will say nice things about it is a dignified representative of God on Earth? Yes or no?

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

In your other posts, what are you alleging about Messianic Jews

I'm pointing out that mere belief doesn't equate to faith and won't merit you salvation. Messianic Jews believe in Christ as the Son of God, but many agree that they aren't Christian; what differentiates them from Christianity?

St. Paisios went as far as to decry himself as an atheist and a failed Christian as a youth because he was disappointed by his "unbelief" and lack of spiritual progress. In Matthew 7:23, God, Himself, accuses many self-professing "christians" of atheism and rebellion.

 

[Fareal]

Do you think a man who embraces fully the post-modern narrative, flirts with modernism, is a ferocious populist of the Nicolas Maduro brand and contradicts the teachings on the church on a whim so that people who hate Christ and Christianity will say nice things about it is a dignified representative of God on Earth? Yes or no?

I think that sounds like a regurgitated talking point and in the spirit of Catholic fraternity, yes I do believe the Lord would not have moved the spirits of the cardinals to elect him if he was not chosen by the Lord.

The Church in America struggles to be led, in humility, towards grace. It has struggled with this for decades. The failing of many of those who consider themselves eminent in the American Church to reflect humbly on the words and deeds of the Holy Father is a cause for grief and deeper reflection.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

I think that sounds like a regurgitated talking point and in the spirit of Catholic fraternity, yes I do believe the Lord would not have moved the spirits of the cardinals to elect him if he was not chosen by the Lord.

May I remind you of masonic infiltration within the church? May I remind you of the third of Fatima?

https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/is-the-end-near-2664

 

[Dr. Kinder]

I'm pointing out that mere belief doesn't equate to faith and won't merit you salvation. Messianic Jews believe in Christ as the Son of God, but many agree that they aren't Christian; what differentiates them from Christianity?

St. Paisios went as far as to decry himself as an atheist and a failed Christian as a youth because he was disappointed by his "unbelief" and lack of spiritual progress. In Matthew 7:23, God, Himself, accuses many self-professing "christians" of atheism and rebellion.

Well, the mere profession of belief does not equate to faith because there is no faithfulness in it. People who try to separate faith from faithfulness are lying to themselves. There's a reason we use the same word for both.

However, if someone truly and genuinely believes Jesus Christ is Lord, then that person's behaviors are necessarily transformed. Saying you believe something doesn't mean you actually believe it. Neither does thinking you believe something. We lie to ourselves all the time, including when we think we are believing, but really we are not. No, it's not what we say, and it's not what we think: Our actions are what demonstrate what we actually believe.

A dead faith is not a faith at all. Faith without works is dead and worthless, saves nobody, and does no good for any person.

If you say you believe, or if you think you believe, but your actions are not transformed accordingly, then you are lying, you are not in the faith, and you will die in your sins.

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

Apostolics do not pray to or worship saints. We ask saints to pray for us.

Why? God is god if the living, not of the dead

God can hear and see all, you think prayer to an angel or dead person will sway God in your favor? Did you forget who's running the show?

 

[A Real Munson]

Why? God is god if the living, not of the dead

God can hear and see all, you think prayer to an angel or dead person will sway God in your favor? Did you forget who's running the show?

The Saints aren't dead. Categorically, Saints are promised eternal life. So, it is not uncommon to ask the richteous to pray to God on your behalf. The prayers of the richteous availeth much.

 

[Dr. Kinder]

Why? God is god if the living, not of the dead

God can hear and see all, you think prayer to an angel or dead person will sway God in your favor? Did you forget who's running the show?

Have you read the Book of Revelation? Are you aware that the souls of the saints are alive, right now, with God? The souls of the saints reside with God:

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

The souls of the saints are able to cry with a loud voice. They speak to the Lord. This would not be possible if they were dead because we serve the God of the Living, not the dead. It is only possible that these saints are in eternal communion with God because they are alive. They were killed, but they are not dead. The saints live! They reside within the eternal altar of sacrifice, and they are beseeching Holy God.