[24/12/2014, 11:30:57 AM] drinternetphd: oh cool asshole ex is crowdfunding again
[24/12/2014, 11:31:04 AM] Athena Hollow: uhhhhhhggggggggggggghhhhhhhhh
[24/12/2014, 11:31:35 AM] nicholas.boterf: Gamergate has really shown there’s A LOT of money being an utter asshole on the Internet.
[24/12/2014, 11:31:42 AM] Athena Hollow: I've only really talked outside of online, to a handful of people about all this shit, mostly so I can have someone reassure me that I'm not completely fucking crazy.
[24/12/2014, 11:31:45 AM] drinternetphd: $7k
[24/12/2014, 11:31:50 AM] Athena Hollow: O___________________________________o
[24/12/2014, 11:32:00 AM] Remy: wtf
[24/12/2014, 11:32:05 AM] Tesseract: does he even get the money from gamergate, I think it's from shitty mras
[24/12/2014, 11:32:13 AM] drinternetphd: this means he is likely trying to sue me
[24/12/2014, 11:32:17 AM] Remy: What tess said
[24/12/2014, 11:32:20 AM] drinternetphd: his normal lawyer fee is $3k
[24/12/2014, 11:32:22 AM] Athena Hollow: w/ so much overlap, it would be hard to tell.
[24/12/2014, 11:32:25 AM] Athena Hollow: Oh damn.
[24/12/2014, 11:32:26 AM] Remy: :/
[24/12/2014, 11:32:41 AM] Athena Hollow: Trying to sue you? For HIM being a stalking fuckwad?
Goddamn our legal system even making that a possible thing.
[24/12/2014, 11:33:35 AM] Remy: legal systems have a long tradition of being turned into the tools of abusers
[24/12/2014, 11:33:55 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: so was there an actual verdict yesterday?
[24/12/2014, 11:34:16 AM] drinternetphd: no
[24/12/2014, 11:34:21 AM] drinternetphd: it was a show cause hearing
[24/12/2014, 11:34:30 AM] drinternetphd: charges were not issued
[24/12/2014, 11:34:50 AM] Faruk Ates:

[24/12/2014, 11:34:57 AM] Faruk Ates: sorry to hear that
[24/12/2014, 11:35:05 AM] Faruk Ates: where is he raising money?
[24/12/2014, 11:35:11 AM] drinternetphd: twitter.
[24/12/2014, 11:35:14 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: pretty sure you can keep pressing things then, can't you?
[24/12/2014, 11:35:28 AM] drinternetphd: not with this magistrate, quite likely.
[24/12/2014, 11:35:43 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: well no
[24/12/2014, 11:35:47 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: but generally
[24/12/2014, 11:35:58 AM] Remy: :/
[24/12/2014, 11:36:08 AM] Remy: Are there any options for getting your case heard by a different person?
[24/12/2014, 11:36:16 AM] drinternetphd: doubt it.
[24/12/2014, 11:36:25 AM] Remy: Or asking the judge to recuse his self due to inexperience with the subject material?
[24/12/2014, 11:36:28 AM] Remy: pleas read: the internet
[24/12/2014, 11:36:51 AM] Charloppe: cat is kneeding my blanket while staring at me.
[24/12/2014, 11:36:55 AM] Charloppe: Im worried
[24/12/2014, 11:37:05 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: are you sure? A lot of things like this, it's just a question of wait a bit and try again with
[24/12/2014, 11:37:22 AM] drinternetphd: well if I could afford my own lawyer that would probably help BUT
[24/12/2014, 11:37:25 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Secret Gamer Girl is turning into Yoda or something
[24/12/2014, 11:37:32 AM] drinternetphd: I can't. So.
[24/12/2014, 11:37:46 AM] Remy: This actually brings me to a question that's been bothering me but I've been afraid that it's already been asked
[24/12/2014, 11:37:52 AM] SF: This is in a way why it's so problematic that Wu was starting a defence fund.
[24/12/2014, 11:37:57 AM] SF: It means no one else can realistically.
[24/12/2014, 11:38:00 AM] Remy: Is there a resources / charity / defense fund we can appeal to?
[24/12/2014, 11:38:05 AM] Remy: And if not, can we make one?
[24/12/2014, 11:38:11 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: well, that's not just for her, I don't think
[24/12/2014, 11:38:15 AM] Remy: A resource for helping the victims of online abuse find legal representation
[24/12/2014, 11:38:22 AM] drinternetphd: you know I would get crucified over that
[24/12/2014, 11:38:24 AM] SF: No, but it means working with her.
[24/12/2014, 11:38:34 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: plus I'm sure this is the sort a lawyer or two would take on pro bono
[24/12/2014, 11:38:34 AM] SF: Well, could you get MORE crucified?
[24/12/2014, 11:38:40 AM] Remy: Then we set it up in someone else's name
[24/12/2014, 11:38:44 AM] Tesseract: pretty sure we could work with bri if it meant getting legal money
[24/12/2014, 11:38:52 AM] Tesseract: or really a lot of other things
[24/12/2014, 11:39:00 AM] drinternetphd: I'll pass.
[24/12/2014, 11:39:00 AM] Remy: I'm just trying to ask if we, meaning the world doesn't need maybe an online abuse defense fund
[24/12/2014, 11:39:02 AM] Tesseract: she's not grace, she isn't going to explode at the slightest contact
[24/12/2014, 11:39:24 AM] drinternetphd: I have no desire to work with something not transparent
[24/12/2014, 11:39:31 AM] drinternetphd: or become beholden to someone I don't know in that capacity.
[24/12/2014, 11:39:47 AM] Tesseract: that's more directed at sf
[24/12/2014, 11:40:02 AM] SF: Sure felt like she did to me.
[24/12/2014, 11:40:10 AM] drinternetphd: I will provide bri with all the help I can but the calls for internet detective shit and other stuff I'm not 100% comfortable with hitching my wagon to makes me uneasy to do that
[24/12/2014, 11:42:04 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Again, speaking as one of the people she eventually did haul over to double check what she was looking at, it proved rather non-creepy.
[24/12/2014, 11:42:34 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well, what she was looking at proved creepy, but "This and this are definitely the same guy right?"
[24/12/2014, 11:43:08 AM] SF: You sure she wasn't backpedalling because she realized she fucked up?
[24/12/2014, 11:43:23 AM] Athena Hollow: Eh, either way, it was sketchy sounding which is bad.
[24/12/2014, 11:43:32 AM] Athena Hollow: Gotsta keep da composure

[24/12/2014, 11:43:39 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'm pretty sure? Because, no time elapsed, and it was pretty damn open and shut?
[24/12/2014, 11:43:44 AM] drinternetphd: point is the last thing I need in my life right now is anything other than 100% above board nothing is remotely in flux shit
[24/12/2014, 11:44:00 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah, understandable
[24/12/2014, 11:44:01 AM] drinternetphd: I don't need more complicated situations or ones I'm worrying about
[24/12/2014, 11:44:44 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: but you don't want to slip into "this is my burden and mine alone don't anyone pitch in" mode either
[24/12/2014, 11:45:20 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Pretty sure getting a solid dedicated lawyer is something people can help out with.
[24/12/2014, 11:45:24 AM] drinternetphd: no I just want more control.
[24/12/2014, 11:45:29 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: well sure
[24/12/2014, 11:45:34 AM] drinternetphd: than "let someone I am nervous about handle it"
[24/12/2014, 11:46:55 AM] drinternetphd: god fucking damnit