Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

It felt more rooted in extreme individualism than anything.

There's a horseshoe going on with the whole individualism vs collectivism thing.

Healthy individualism is recognizing that other people are individuals too, separate from yourself, with rights like yours. That the right to swing your fist ends where another person's nose begins.

Healthy collectivism is recognizing that while private property is an inherently good thing, and being a moral busybody isn't a good thing, one must also remember that even "victimless crimes" or vices can negatively affect those closest to you, so sometimes not even the "non-aggression principle" is sufficient. You still have an obligation to contribute to your society.

Extreme individualism can wrap back around to collectivism: Narcissism is extreme individualism, and one of the symptoms of clinical narcissism is a tendency to see everyone else as extensions of yourself, and a tendency to get violently angry when others refuse to act as such. Which of course, is a collectivist pattern of thought.

So it would make sense why collectivist or authoritarian ideologies would appeal to self-proclaimed individualists or "anarchists."

What's sad is that if the people who actually have gender dysphoria kicked out the special gendered snowflakes who identified as anything, but male or female then there probably wouldn't be so much confusion, and people might of understood trans better.Honestly whether it was because they were desperate to increase their numbers or ironically the trans community themselves got hijacked by gender special teens, they made things more confusing to the point where like Drongo said, no one can define what trans is.

No, you shouldn't feel bad about it.

It's good that idiotic teenagers are discrediting transgenderism. There's nothing legitimate about it. Gender dysphoria needs to be cured, not affirmed by society. Even "real" trannies are mentally ill morons who chase after impossible fantasies.

 

[Manat]

I stumbled today on the fact that ed gein was a tranny. I always thought that using the phrase "skin suit" was just an analogy, but no, a tranny actually tried this.

It seems that he was obsessed with a tranny case from the time of a guy called Christina Jorgensen.

Even the white and black picture doesn't help him pass, but he won woman of the year.

This is probably a tranny video but there is a short clip of him receiving woman of the year from the New York scandinavian community at the start, if you're curious.

He even told psychiatrists that he wondered what it will be like to be a girl when he was young. Trannies never change, ha? You get the same script even from a tranny born more that a hundred years ago.

I have no statics, but trannies are over represented in the serial killer demographic, at least in America.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

Nonbinaries don't usually need it, so they're more likely to say "you don't need dysphoria to be trans" and "no body parts are gendered." This is secretly a big problem for FtMs and MtFs since this means that it makes people see them as less like the other gender and that all the make up and spinny skirts won't convince randos to gender you correctly - anyone can be a bloke or bird. That, and a portion of trans justification for being a real "man" or real "woman" is based on stereotypes or worse, fetishes. Females MUST do X to be female! You are aborting the system and making ME look bad!

See, this is interesting to me because a lot of non binaries I've seen do actually claim to be dysphoric and seek medical treatment, usually those are teenage girls and young women who've got low self esteem and also have this idea that not conforming 100% to stereotypical femininity, but not identifying as male either, puts them in another category. It's not that they want to transition towards being men but away from being female - the author of that Gender Queer book is one such case and iirc she's had the tit chop. I've heard of some going as far as having their entire reproductive system and external genitals removed, aiming for a shop mannequin look down there, yes, there are some surgeons crazy enough to do this, no psych evaluation needed, just show them the cash and they'll get rid of that pesky vagina. Most obvious reason for doing that would be trauma related from sexual abuse, but I also recall a few asexual/"ace" Tumblr bloggers saying they didn't want any genitalia at all because they were simply put off by the idea of being penetrated (I suspect overexposure to porn and a warped idea of what a sexual relationship looks like.)

What's funny though is you don't see a lot of men identifying that way go to such extremes, as loath as I am to use a term that gets tossed around by the crazier radical feminist side of the gender critical movement, internalised misogyny definitely plays a part. The one non binary identified man I can think of who's attempting to medically transition is Jim Sterling, who's taking estrogen, but I'm convinced he's just a classic AGP and the only reason he didn't go all the way to calling himself a woman named Stephanie was so he could keep the Jim name and the recognition that goes along with it.

Teens, autists, and teen autists love creating symbols and emblems for themselves that declare who they are. It's natural that people started to make pride flags like those old Deviantart stamps or quiz results put on people's profiles to show who they were in an image.

Back in my day it was just silly doodles in your class notes of an OC for your favourite anime (totally not a self insert you gaiz!!111!!!1). Fuck I miss the 2000s.

Is it just me or did all these new gender identities arise in part as a result of kids being encouraged to take interest in political issues that really are too complex for them to understand? Even back then I remember our teachers trying to explain to us why we ought to be worried about climate change, setting up these student activist groups, now on top of all that they seem to be inserting gender into lessons even where it's totally irrelevant and setting up "queer students" clubs.

 

[AMHOLIO]

See, this is interesting to me because a lot of non binaries I've seen do actually claim to be dysphoric and seek medical treatment, usually those are teenage girls and young women who've got low self esteem and also have this idea that not conforming 100% to stereotypical femininity, but not identifying as male either, puts them in another category.

It's a mix with nonbinaries. Some nonbinaries feel self conscious and have to be legit, some are chasing the high since identifying as nonbinary is fine until it doesn't give you the same amount of euphoria/high disassociatative from it. Others know their limits and are happy thst someone calls them they/them online, knowing that they can't get anyone IRL to identify them as nonbinary on site and don't make much of a fuss. There's a chance that a nonbinary will be any of the opinions since it's a vauge, nebulous umbrella group. Transition to male features but keep the they/them, transition to as androgynous as possible, take no hormones and classify as 3rd gender, take hormones and be they/them, insist on they them with dysphoria, insist on they them without dysphoria... the only guarentee is that if the they/them is a female (highly likely), then they're secretly hated on by their trans woman peers for throwing their womanhood away that troons want and/or hated because they're a woman.

Even some they/them females are aware of the later. It's a weird situation since you can see rumblings and ripples of conflict and unacceptance (dirtiest word in trans lingo) on the public social media sites but usually have to experience leaked chatlogs, small chatrooms, or niche places to see anyone say anything. Redditors just get slapped for being transphobic and their questions on the trans boards are up and down.

as loath as I am to use a term that gets tossed around by the crazier radical feminist side of the gender critical movement, internalised misogyny definitely plays a part.

You can go with "self hating woman" like minorities do if you like. Whatever you call it, the deep seated fear of being a vunerable or negative stereotypical woman weighs hard in their mind and it's a damn shame.

Is it just me or did all these new gender identities arise in part as a result of kids being encouraged to take interest in political issues that really are too complex for them to understand?

Yeah, basically. There's crazy online people above the age of 20 who'd come up with this shit too considering how long the therian and otherkin communities have been around, but the people who have free time to make up gendies are usually teens. There's some man/womanchildren out there who have the time too but the spread along with the arts and crafts project is more on the teens. Very much a sparkledog flag.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

-I get frustrated when ppl tell me not to see what I can clearly see with my own eyes: A ton of TIMs are AGPs. One of them won a Pulitzer prize for writing about it lmao. On the secret trans only discords and such they don’t even keep a lid on it. Ladies, they are making a fool of you. Don’t believe their lies and tranny cope that even they don’t believe.

-Though at times hilarious I mostly just feel pity for the tifs. Probably because I can remember the female teens/early 20’s angst they feel.* The younger TIMs I can feel some abstract pity for but their experience of smashing up their rooms and wanting to assault old ladies for misgendering them…that’s hard to relate to.

* all bets are off when kids are involved…the pregnant pooners taking T or screaming at their kids for “misgendering” etc are as bad as the troons. In general, the 30 y/o+ TIFs I find to be incomprehensible.

 

[Jacques1194]

No, you shouldn't feel bad about it.

It's good that idiotic teenagers are discrediting transgenderism. There's nothing legitimate about it. Gender dysphoria needs to be cured, not affirmed by society. Even "real" trannies are mentally ill morons who chase after impossible fantasies.

Oh trust me i dont feel bad about it since they've brought it on themselves.I think the point was that at least most people could of understood the whole guy wants to be a woman and vice versa, (Even though it is crazy still) but then it got completely insane when non binary,gender fluid,and other genders popped up with teenagers which confused things even more.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

As someone who'd like to finally find the one and settle down someday, nothing makes my blood boil faster than husbands trooning out. In today's addled society you find someone who loves you for you, I like to assume feels comfortable with AND excited by you public and private, marries you, and then you go and ruin it anyway for the... coom?

I would love to give those guys a giant punch to the back of their heads. Getting into a marriage means you should put your SO front and center in your life and live as the best version of who you actually are, which ISN'T as a woman.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Oh trust me i dont feel bad about it since they've brought it on themselves.I think the point was that at least most people could of understood the whole guy wants to be a woman and vice versa, (Even though it is crazy still) but then it got completely insane when non binary,gender fluid,and other genders popped up with teenagers which confused things even more.

You've got people who believe that you can become a member of the opposite sex either by mutilating yourself or merely identifying as such.

After that, it's not a stretch at all to literally identify as a eunuch, a hermaphrodite, or as some monstrosity out of a futa hentai. Because when these retards identify as "nonbinary," what else could they possibly mean?

 

[Sissyagamben]

You've got people who believe that you can become a member of the opposite sex either by mutilating yourself or merely identifying as such.

After that, it's not a stretch at all to literally identify as a eunuch, a hermaphrodite, or as some monstrosity out of a futa hentai.

I think Chris Chan is a very good example of this. Dude is retarded, yes, he believed he’s Mexican and a woman. At first everyone calls out his bs, but there were enough sources out there that affirmed his woman delusion. It just went completely downhill there. If you can be a woman—sth you will never be—just because “you feel like it.” Then why can’t you be a CPU goddess or second coming of Christ for the same reason? It’s equally unlikely.

 

[Jacques1194]

I think Chris Chan is a very good example of this. Dude is retarded, yes, he believed he’s Mexican and a woman. At first everyone calls out his bs, but there were enough sources out there that affirmed his woman delusion. It just went completely downhill there. If you can be a woman—sth you will never be—just because “you feel like it.” Then why can’t you be a CPU goddess or second coming of Christ for the same reason? It’s equally unlikely.

Dont know if it was Chris Chan but who was the dude that identified as a 6 year old girl?I remember pro trans people claiming that his identity as a child was what made him mentally ill, but the whole thinking he's a girl part wasn't delusional.This is what gets me about the whole thing.Why is it only sex where people accept someone being born wrong, but not any other trait such as race, age, or species,etc?

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I think Chris Chan is a very good example of this. Dude is retarded, yes, he believed he’s Mexican and a woman. At first everyone calls out his bs, but there were enough sources out there that affirmed his woman delusion. It just went completely downhill there. If you can be a woman—sth you will never be—just because “you feel like it.” Then why can’t you be a CPU goddess or second coming of Christ for the same reason? It’s equally unlikely.

That's why the attack helicopter joke and its variants will never, ever get old: it illustrates the inherent insanity of transgenderism, and troons and troon enablers have no rebuttal to it. Except for, pretend to not be butthurt by it and try to laugh it off as a "dead meme" or "transphobes only know one joke."

I have not seen a single argument against transracialism, trans-species (otherkin), trans-ablism or anything else of the sort that cannot be used against transgenderism. It's simply an exercise in futility to try to do so, and challenging people to do so is a pretty good way to make their heads explode.

And we all know the reasons why the trans movement still doesn't claim those alternative identities I speak of: It's not because they actually think those things are insane, it's only to save face, because normies understand how dumb those things are, even the ones dumb enough to fall for the lies told by the troon movement.

 

[batteredpancakes]

This is what happens when you tell impressionable children that they're not allowed to use the term "spirit animal," but "gender" can apply to anything and means every knee must bow.

I never noticed that term disappeared till you said it. We used to use it so much back in the day and I don't think I've heard it in awhile.
I must've missed the hubbub because googling it comes up with articles telling people it's racist and a microaggression and I can't recall the fallout.

 

[AfroMegan]

I don't know if this is really a hot take or anything - more a quiet realisation.

You don't really hear from the weirdo men's rights, anti-feminist, manospherian types any more, since the rise of the troon.

I wonder if there's a connection.

Late reply, but whatever. There are some manosphere radical niches that propose men to date trannies or sex-dolls only. I saw a bunch of schizos saying that since women have a easier life, then it's not a bad idea to one become a tranny.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

I’ve read some speculation on kf before that one reason we hear less about manosphere guys is cos those guys have trooned out. Some of them have, I’m sure. Incel to troon pipeline is obvious. There was a transmaxxing guy who wrote about his journey from incel manlet to “trans girl” having a lot of sex. He had semi-convincing pictures of himself and everything.

I don’t think the majority of former manosphere have trooned out though of course. I dunno media attention moved onto another thing after they got to milk the pua craze for moral panic. Lots of the manosphere guys were just grifters riding a trend and now they’ve moved onto the new thing or just faded into obscurity. Remember vaush was a huge one and then he converted to religion and swore off casual sex.

Anyway now we have other things for incel men like Andrew Tate who seem to fill a similar function.

-about the age trannys, yes. Genevieve Gluck has written a lot about coverage of a tranny who has his wife push him around in a wheelchair but walks around when it’s convenient. He got a glowing news report on Norwegian tv but they had to apologize and showcase actual disabled people the day after it aired. ????

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

The other day my based and TERF-pilled fiancée commented that Dylan Mulvaney looks like Olive Oyl. As a transphobe with a fondness for Popeye, I was horrified, but I have to admit she does have a point.



Huge hands and feet.
No curves.
Height mogs Popeye.
Balding on the sides.

She went on to make the claim that sailors are massively gay, so the idea of Popeye being a chaser and Olive being a tranny made sense. However, despite her compelling evidence, I still think Olive Oyl is a natal woman.

Anyway, there is already a trans character in the Popeye canon.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Dont know if it was Chris Chan but who was the dude that identified as a 6 year old girl?

Stefonknee Wolscht

I must've missed the hubbub because googling it comes up with articles telling people it's racist and a microaggression and I can't recall the fallout.

Aw, dude, the wokescolds condescendingly suggested whiteys replace "spirit animal" with "patronus" for a while, so it's kind of funny how that turned out.

Anyway, there is already a trans character in the Popeye canon.

From this link it says that Goons are the Popeye equivalent to Dwarves: the men and women are indistinguishable to humans, but they themselves can tell just fine.

 

[Mad_Dog]

a tranny who has his wife push him around in a wheelchair but walks around when it’s convenient

What a fucking king (minus the tranny shit).

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

From this link it says that Goons are the Popeye equivalent to Dwarves: the men and women are indistinguishable to humans, but they themselves can tell just fine.

When you spend all your time gooning in your cave to tranny porn, you start caring less about gender as the dopamine rush from addiction takes over, I guess.

 

[Wallace]

Because when these retards identify as "nonbinary," what else could they possibly mean?

Non-binaries, IMO, want all the benefits of being in the alphabet people clubhouse without any of the costs. Maybe they just balk at the idea of medical transition, but still want to be hip and trendy. They/them pronouns are this generation's black trenchcoat.

There are also some pooners who claim non-binary as a way to escape their own womanhood, due to CSA or other trauma. They don't want to be men, they want to be not-women.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Non-binaries, IMO, want all the benefits of being in the alphabet people clubhouse without any of the costs. Maybe they just balk at the idea of medical transition, but still want to be hip and trendy. They/them pronouns are this generation's black trenchcoat.

There are also some pooners who claim non-binary as a way to escape their own womanhood, due to CSA or other trauma. They don't want to be men, they want to be not-women.

As I've said earlier, it's kind of a tossup.

Many are too chicken to mutilate or poison themselves, many others happily follow through, especially in response to others criticizing them for only pretending to be troons for clout.