TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

[Random Internet Person]

That's the legitimate winning move and could be one of the few scenarios where the lolcow stopped lolcowing and just lived it's life.

There’s always the Twitter aspect.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

So what does the future hold for Hot Dog Girl? I'm guessing sooner or later she'll just content herself with being a housewife. It could be worse. IIRC, her husband makes decent money, and she has acquired enough gullible paypigs to help foot the bills for at least a little while longer.

I feel like there's some resentment, probably a lot, that her endeavors never panned out and that the only reason anyone paid attention to her was because she played Girl Doug once upon a time. But the path is available in front of her, she just never went for it for some reason: Documentarian. All she'd have to do is take some of her money, or even kickstart the project, and make something for Netflix or Amazon Prime about a topic she feels passionate about. She wouldn't have to change much from her YT style, all she needs to do is make essentially a ninety minute video with an 8K camera and she's good. Then she'd finally have the respect of old media she's always wanted.

Actually what would be funny is if she's already tried it, no one wanted it, and she just threw it up on her channel to try and recoup the loss.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I feel like there's some resentment, probably a lot, that her endeavors never panned out and that the only reason anyone paid attention to her was because she played Girl Doug once upon a time. But the path is available in front of her, she just never went for it for some reason: Documentarian.

That is the main reason why she never went for that path. Lindsay, like all feminists, resent the fact that she was famous for being Girl Doug. She resents the fact that her fame came from being the female version of a male character. No feminist wants to be in that position; to admit to the world that they owed a man anything other than their base contempt and hatred.

All she'd have to do is take some of her money, or even kickstart the project, and make something for Netflix or Amazon Prime about a topic she feels passionate about. She wouldn't have to change much from her YT style, all she needs to do is make essentially a ninety minute video with an 8K camera and she's good. Then she'd finally have the respect of old media she's always wanted.

I don't think the old media would ever respect the likes of Lindsay Ellis. Aside from the fact that she came from hillbilly trash and has no real connections in Hollywood or the media/news business, she's also part of the new internet media's celebrities, and the old media and old world always resented them for ''stealing the spotlight'' from them. There's a reason why media companies were rather litigious with the likes of Doug mocking their movies; aside from the standard corporate lawyering, they never truly accepted these new media types considering that they subverted and tried to replace the old media.

Sure, some celebs showed up in the Nostalgia Critic's show, but he's the top dog outside of AVGN; the rest of them were his hangers-on who were nothing without him. Lindsay is very much included in that bunch. So if they could barely tolerate Doug, why the hell would they bother with Doug's sloppy seconds?

 

[Popper Whiting]

I feel like there's some resentment, probably a lot, that her endeavors never panned out and that the only reason anyone paid attention to her was because she played Girl Doug once upon a time. But the path is available in front of her, she just never went for it for some reason: Documentarian. All she'd have to do is take some of her money, or even kickstart the project, and make something for Netflix or Amazon Prime about a topic she feels passionate about. She wouldn't have to change much from her YT style, all she needs to do is make essentially a ninety minute video with an 8K camera and she's good. Then she'd finally have the respect of old media she's always wanted.

Actually what would be funny is if she's already tried it, no one wanted it, and she just threw it up on her channel to try and recoup the loss.

I think resentment has always been there. It probably is Lindsay's biggest driving factor. It comes from a belief that she is "better" than everyone else and that success should just "naturally happen" for her. So instead of appreciating an opportunity when it gets given to her, she will come around to hating the person, or group, which gave it to her because that "success" should come as a result of her being Lindsay Ellis. How dare they hand it to her! The resentment compounds when each of her endeavors fail because Lindsay believing she is naturally brilliant, feels she doesn't have to put in the hard work and hustle to make it succeed, because being "brilliant" things should "just happen" for her. Who needs hard work and competence when you're "brilliant" like Lindsay?

As a result of these resentments she ends up destroying any opportunity she gets, and blames others instead of realizing the very real role she played in the outcome of each of her endeavors. She's patient zero for that ex-CA contributor problem.

Having an IQ of 105 when you grew up in the Appalachians fucked her into believing her just slightly above average intelligence made her exceptional when she isn't, probably because in that cauldron of sister fucking it kind of did in comparison to those she plucked banjos with.

 

[Ninon42]

I feel like there's some resentment, probably a lot, that her endeavors never panned out and that the only reason anyone paid attention to her was because she played Girl Doug once upon a time. But the path is available in front of her, she just never went for it for some reason: Documentarian. All she'd have to do is take some of her money, or even kickstart the project, and make something for Netflix or Amazon Prime about a topic she feels passionate about. She wouldn't have to change much from her YT style, all she needs to do is make essentially a ninety minute video with an 8K camera and she's good. Then she'd finally have the respect of old media she's always wanted.

Actually what would be funny is if she's already tried it, no one wanted it, and she just threw it up on her channel to try and recoup the loss.

But Lindsay DOES see herself as a documentarian; that's the funniest part! It's in her Patreon bio and everything.

Her "video essays" are in fact, her attempts at documentaries. But because the subjects are kids movies and pop culture and she's a YouTuber, that's as far as it got. Making videos exclusively for Nebula isn't just a hugbox retreat but a step up for her in her own mind because that seething, palpable resentment numerous Kiwis have already noted is from being "just a YouTuber" and not getting the respect she feels she deserved for the Hobbit series, etc. When she flounced off the Internet, my guess was exactly that she would start producing docs for Curiosity Stream because that would be the natural progression what with their partnership with Nebula, but she didn't do that. Instead, she had a kid and kept making the same old videos but for Nebula and from a wine mom perspective. She claims not to want to be famous anymore, but IMO she simply hit the wall as far as her own skill and ambition went. Had her books been successful, she perhaps would have made the leap to producer of videos on other topics, but after that unexpected (by her) public failure, the limit of her reach and marketability was laid bare.

Anyway, she's got her cuck engineer husband, baby, simpbux and well-funded SAHM life in Long Beach, CA. Maybe she'll just be happy with what she has for a while.

 

[Boston Brand]

The Musicalsplaining podcast that Lindsay started with her crush Kaveh will be stopping at the end of the year. Angelina Meehan, Lindsay's bestie and writer, had taken over but their listenership was minimal except for the couple episodes that Lindsay returned for. In mildly related news, Jill Bearup's book that there was actually demand for has sold over 4k in digital preorders and is number 5 on the Barnes and Noble bestseller list. Since she's self-publishing, she said she's already broken even on the $10k she spent to bring the book to fruition. The terf who Lindsay and her squad tried to unperson twice for transphobic wrongthink has managed to do what Lindsay couldn't: sell a book that people actually wanted and make a profit without destroying the market for other authors or torching a legacy publisher.

Even better - apparently Baen took a look at it, decided it wasn't a good fit... but still has been working with Jill on promo and potentially working together in the future.

There's an eARC circulating, I will have to see if my contact at Baen will send me one.

Because yeah, the hype and preorders behind Jill's book it legit.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Even better - apparently Baen took a look at it, decided it wasn't a good fit... but still has been working with Jill on promo and potentially working together in the future.

There's an eARC circulating, I will have to see if my contact at Baen will send me one.

Because yeah, the hype and preorders behind Jill's book it legit.

Not sure what Jill’s book was about, but going from self published to getting on the radar of actual publishers is pretty freaking impressive.

I’d say that should have been the route Lindsay needed to take if she wasn’t so obsessed with being a name in legacy media.

 

[Zyklon Ben's Poison Pen]

Bob appeals to the majority of males and the majority of males are pathetic faggots with perma brain rot.

There are what? 4-5 billion males? And Bob managed to get the attention of a few thousand? You aren't wrong bout these males but they are no way the majority. Most I think are normalfags who have no idea what any of this shit even is.

 

[Hazard Crab]

Not sure what Jill’s book was about, but going from self published to getting on the radar of actual publishers is pretty freaking impressive.

I’d say that should have been the route Lindsay needed to take if she wasn’t so obsessed with being a name in legacy media.

The hilarious part is Jill didn't intend to write a book. She made some youtube shorts for fun about a fantasy heroine arguing with her author and, when that got positive feedback, expanded it into a storyline. She only wrote the book when the clamoring made it obvious there was an audience for a novel that only she could deliver.

Lindsay famously started the other way around and wrote her book without checking to see if it was something her existing twit-tube audience even cared about.

 

['Ole Dente]

There are what? 4-5 billion males? And Bob managed to get the attention of a few thousand? You aren't wrong bout these males but they are no way the majority. Most I think are normalfags who have no idea what any of this shit even is.

I mean yeah within the niche genre of men who also like Mario, and also like weird sketch comedy, ect ect

He's basically a video game breadtuber who tries to appeal to the delicate sensibilities of women through capitulation and being a faggot.

 

[Baraka Obama]

Anyway, she's got her cuck engineer husband, baby, simpbux and well-funded SAHM life in Long Beach, CA. Maybe she'll just be happy with what she has for a while.

Is this the good ending?

 

[Popper Whiting]

Is this the good ending?

If she disappears into the sunset and we never hear from her again, yes. Otherwise I don't see a happy future for Lindsay, as in her spite and ambition she'll fuck whatever she has going up. It is a pretty well established pattern by now.

 

[Bassomatic]

If she disappears into the sunset and we never hear from her again, yes. Otherwise I don't see a happy future for Lindsay, as in her spite and ambition she'll fuck whatever she has going up. It is a pretty well established pattern by now.

I for one can't wait for the PTA brawl drunk mug shot her future holds.

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

Whenever I think of Lindsay being a failure, I think of a very specific moment from a few years ago.

I was in a used bookstore that was setup in a warehouse format. The bookstore was apparently getting many of its books from libraries throwing copies of books out and from used bookstores going out of business or getting rid of stock they couldn't sell. There were several bins filled to the brim with hardcover books towards the front of the store. Most of these were airport novels by the likes of Stephen King, Tom Clancy, Danielle Steele, etc, but there were occasionally some interesting books by well regarded "literary" authors and some decent genre fiction that fell outside of the "airport novel" category. Books in these bins were almost always in fantastic shape with the dust covers intact. The bulk of them were printed in the '90s and 2000s, but occasionally I would see some from the very early 2010s and maybe a few from the very late 80s.

While rummaging through one of the bins I saw the name "Lindsay Ellis" on the spine of a book near the top. Given the aforementioned age of the books in the bin, my first thought was "Oh, did she write a book back around the time that she was doing Nostalgia Chick?" When I picked it up I was struck by the horrible condition that the book was in. Its pages had clearly been wet, with discoloring around the edges, like someone had tried to stuff it down a toilet. When I opened the cover, I was shocked to see the copyright date of 2020, and immediately was reminded of her lolcow status and her having a thread on the Kiwi Farms.

Now, everytime I see people in this thread discussing her egotism and clout chasing, all I can think of is that water damaged book sitting on a stack of books that were over a decade old and in pristine shape.

 

[Boston Brand]

Not sure what Jill’s book was about, but going from self published to getting on the radar of actual publishers is pretty freaking impressive.

I’d say that should have been the route Lindsay needed to take if she wasn’t so obsessed with being a name in legacy media.

From what the rumor mill has been, Jill wrote a damn solid book, just a weird one for Baen to have bought, so they passed - but that she impressed editor Toni Weisskopf is no small feat at all.

Lindsay's issue is I'd wager she didn't even have a book ready, she bought herself a Hugo nod, and her hipster agent found a publisher stupid enough to hand her a book deal based on that and her YouTube/social media following.

Axioms End was a page one rewrite, the sequel even more so. She sure as shit didn't sell them based on her ability as a storyteller.

 

[Random Internet Person]

From what the rumor mill has been, Jill wrote a damn solid book, just a weird one for Baen to have bought, so they passed - but that she impressed editor Toni Weisskopf is no small feat at all.

Lindsay's issue is I'd wager she didn't even have a book ready, she bought herself a Hugo nod, and her hipster agent found a publisher stupid enough to hand her a book deal based on that and her YouTube/social media following.

Axioms End was a page one rewrite, the sequel even more so. She sure as shit didn't sell them based on her ability as a storyteller.

I do know Lindsay talked about her road to a book deal .

But if she went and signed with the first suit(s) that gave her a positive response without so much as a completed manuscript, then she really was trying to reach superstar status by speedrunning the path to that point.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I do know Lindsay talked about her road to a book deal .

But if she went and signed with the first suit(s) that gave her a positive response without so much as a completed manuscript, then she really was trying to reach superstar status by speedrunning the path to that point.

I fucking love this video because she's insistent that she didn't get the book deal because of her youtube career and that she earned it through a decade of hard work, except she admits she shelved the project back in 08 and only brought it back because someone who liked her channel offered her the chance to be a published author.

The release date is still June 4th, but is she using this extra time to create a polished work that she can be proud of? Or was she just procrastinating until she had to finish the damn thing because of her contract? I know which one I'd put money on.

 

[Boston Brand]

Someone will have to dig through the thread, but her literature agents are two literaral Brooklyn hipsters who run an outfit out of a warehouse. I work in publishing and I'd never heard of either of them.

Lindsay Ellis got a book deal because of her follower/audience size, and everyone - including her - knows it.

Lest we forget, we also have the owner of St. Martins Press decrying offering YouTubers book deals as a massive mistake in the New York Times... mere weeks after Lindsay's second book dropped and flopped.

As for book three... it would be hilarious if a bunch of people on the forum were to ask the publisher for review copies. They only print a limited number typically, so its denying a copy to a legit outlet too.

 

[Ninon42]

Get hype?

Cover and release date together for the first time.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Someone will have to dig through the thread, but her literature agents are two literaral Brooklyn hipsters who run an outfit out of a warehouse. I work in publishing and I'd never heard of either of them.

Lindsay Ellis got a book deal because of her follower/audience size, and everyone - including her - knows it.

Lest we forget, we also have the owner of St. Martins Press decrying offering YouTubers book deals as a massive mistake in the New York Times... mere weeks after Lindsay's second book dropped and flopped.

As for book three... it would be hilarious if a bunch of people on the forum were to ask the publisher for review copies. They only print a limited number typically, so its denying a copy to a legit outlet too.

I’m pretty sure that you’d be told to fuck off the minute Kiwi Farms is involved. And it’d probably break the rule of direct interactions with a thread subject’s friends, family, and associates.