Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Man plans, God laughs
-Jersh, some stream IDK

 

[Doctor Socrates]

What the fuck does this even mean bro? Who's going to jump in and help? What are they going to do? You going to channel the ghost of Scalia and pull a favor?

he can

 

[Doctor Socrates]

also @Null ask based legal organizations like alliance defending freedom https://adflegal.org/ for taking the case to supreme court they don't care about optics they are
listed as " hate group " by splc that means they are excellent constitutionalist

 

[Terrifik]

Good theory, but I think I see a fatal flaw. You are basing this on Rule 19 (1) (a), correct? "in that person's absence, the court cannot accord complete relief among existing parties"? Therein lies the problem. Russell can get the relief he seeks without Google. He seeks damages (available without Google), and removal of his work. He can completely get the relief requested from Kiwi Farms, and if not he can amend his petition to remove the removal request (though perhaps Rule 19 forecloses on that, I am not certain) of the swift book (language in his request is vague enough that it could require Google's intervention).

That is the stupid part we are at!
What most would be wanting is :
1. Correct (DMCA & Removal Copyright material request) -https://kiwifarms.net/help/removing-content/-

Copyright, the DMCA, and Fair Use
See the Contact Us page for how to file a DMCA complaint.

Before doing so, consider the following:

The community enjoys a high level of transparency. As such, your DMCA notice will be posted as it was received.
Fake DMCAs are quietly dealt with. Signing a DMCA for someone you are not authorized to represent is a crime. We authenticate complaints.
Incomplete or invalid DMCAs are not honored. For instance, a primary requirement is a legal return address (not a PO Box) that we may file a counter-notice to.

2. content Removed
3. Everyone pays their burden.
.......
Russell:

1. google delete & dox the user that made the account so that Russ can sue the user for (believe Google is involved in background)
2. Most likely confirmation null process (DMCA & Removal Copyright material request) even though( by the book) can be done in formal & still valid however vague .(can you take off X)

On February 3, 2018, Greer emailed Moon, the administrator of the Kiwi Farms, ordering him to "remove my book" from the site, even though Moon obviously could not remove content from Google.

3. liable proof for null & Site

The libel-proof plaintiff doctrine is a concept that insulates a speaker or publisher from liability for statements made about someone who has no good reputation to protect. The hallmark of a defamation claim is reputational harm. If a person has no reputation to protect, then he or she may be considered “libel-proof.”

4. this case strengthens copyright & Weaken DMCA online safe harbors
5. null forced to pay for court costs?
6. this case should ?- should lead to a cascade same events happening due to weaking safe harbor. ( again you know this dual-side dagger same as Cloudflare and their DMCA issue) (this case is again catalysis as Josh/null put it "narrowly affect one bad website" but the internet in total with cause & effect.)

 

[Troonos]

The universe always seeks balance, and I have it on good authority that Russell will choke to death on a raw glizzy very soon.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The urge to fedpost is almost overwhelming.

The total lack of any sort of standard is insane. What do we have left when the soap box, ballot box and the jury box fails us?

The wine box.

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

What the fuck does this even mean bro? Who's going to jump in and help? What are they going to do? You going to channel the ghost of Scalia and pull a favor?

You don't know who on this website is a Jewish Necromancer Shaman

 

[JazzHandsMcFeelz]

So what now? The original case proceeds?

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

I hope Plaintiff Greer's cheese fails and his 2rd most productive goat is stolen by gypsies.

 

[Piggle Rick]

I hope plaintiff Greer spends the rest of his life feeling itchy. Fuck you, Greer. Your stupid songs will never get you laid.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

Just another "it's so over," can't wait for the next "we're so back."

 

[Useful_Mistake]

online safe harbors

DMCA Safe harbors have literally never been at issue in this entire case.

So what now? The original case proceeds?

Idk, man, that's a very complicated question. If only someone had answered it like thrice already in the last three fucking pages. Alas.

 

[JazzHandsMcFeelz]

DMCA Safe harbors have literally never been at issue in this entire case.

Idk, man, that's a very complicated question. If only someone had answered it like thrice already in the last three fucking pages. Alas.

Excuse me for not knowing the difference between the District court and 1738284th Circuit Court in your retarded and overcomplicated shithole jurisdiction

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Excuse me for not knowing the difference between the District court and 1738284th Circuit Court in your retarded and overcomplicated shithole jurisdiction

You fucking braindead half-aborted mongloid of a nigger, all you fucking had to do was go to two fucking pages back, you retarded imbecile. If you cannot put in the 15 seconds it takes for you to find your answer, then why on earth, you fucking pissed-on sandworm, would anyone bother giving you the answer that you, in most likelihood, lack the brain capacity to read anyway.

Here's the answer to the word for word question you asked:



By all means, if you need me to apply red arrows to make sure your 5 second attention spam doesn't slip, let me know.

 

[waffle]

The fact that they denied this rehearing is frankly unbelievable. What a joke.

Apply to the SC, ADF can also only say "no".

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

I'll be crossing my fingers for you Josh. Although I understand at this point half the battle is lost because you'll have to either dump money into the trial or dump even more fucking money into a potential SCOTUS hearing.

 

[Dire Dire Cocks]

@NotATurkey could not, nor would not, ever jeopardize his channel and his financial success to defend us in any way, shape or form. Even though his success can largely be attributed to our thankless, tireless archival work on every weird freak he talks about, even though he’s content to rip off our efforts for his personal benefit while giving absolutely nothing back and we are at the very least owed some slight deference, it would not ever happen.

That would require bravery and integrity. I hope for the day people like him prove me wrong.

You know who DOES defend us? Who actively credits us over and over and over? Cecil Mcfly. That poor woman deserves some respect.

Yeah but Cecil (and Tom too tbh) are both people in the sphere of somewhat niche Internet creators who talk about lolcows. I doubt the average person today keeps up with their content that well.

Like someone who actually has an audience of normies willing to do something. Maybe some large personality.

 

['Ole Dente]

Yeah but Cecil (and Tom too tbh) are both people in the sphere of somewhat niche Internet creators who talk about lolcows. I doubt the average person today keeps up with their content that well.

Like someone who actually has an audience of normies willing to do something. Maybe some large personality.

I think the same can be applicable to anyone, with exception to Musk, who will happily tell people to fuck off on the principle and integrity of the matter even if it costs him monetarily. Those people are very few.

 

[Nottafed]

This. Asking the Supreme Court to hear this autism costs next to nothing. The worst that happens is they say no, which means we are right back where we started anyway. If they do agree to hear it, well, that is where it gets expensive. Very expensive.

I for one would throw a shitload of money (for me) at this. Its important.

 

[AnOminous]

I for one would throw a shitload of money (for me) at this. Its important.

The thing is it's hardly unwinnable at the trial court level. The only thing Null got a legitimate (or at least properly formatted) DMCA takedown on was a link to a Google Drive, and the only things that were probably copyright infringement, Null was never notified of in any way other than "lmao it's somewhere on your site you go dig through the whole site to find my shit."