Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Fapcop]

I have always been pretty libertarian on most LGBT stuff. As long as you're 18, do what you want..

But this shit is just fucking gross, man. These people need help.

Sorry, but you were part of the problem. All this “well, as long as they’re not hurting anyone…”

WRONG. They hurt themselves, they hurt everyone who has to pay for insurance, they hurt others by normalizing their degeneracy.

Gay marriage, as opposed to some kind of civil partnership, was the sign that the wheel had come off the wagon, anything goes and it’s a race to the bottom (hole).

If complying with treatment, yes. But being a pooner, she's probably vastly exaggerating and probably not complying with treatment. The number of people who get drugs delivered to rehab is nuts.

Well… Just biologically it’s not possible. Opiates are completely out of the body in a few weeks.

As for getting drugs delivered.

Either she’s in a hospital where they can see that she’s popping urine/blood tests on the regular. (And regardless, withdrawals that last more than a week would be highly suspect!)

Or she’s in a rehab, and you very rarely get to stay for months there. It’s usually two to four weeks.

Methinks lil’ pooner is full of shit.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

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6 Weeks Post OP SRS

Howdy yall! Today marks 6 weeks since I had my penile inversion vaginoplasty at Vanderbilt University Medical Center with Dr. Kassis. Functionally everything is working great. No complications with urination, and no problems with dilation. So far I'm up to full depth with the green Soul Source dilator every time i dilate, and am trying to add the largest orange dilator into the rotation.

Overall I've been very satisfied with the results and process. The surgical team has been very helpful and friendly the whole way through. I spent 8 days total recovering in the hospital. For the first 6 days I was catheterized and had a wound vac covering the surgical area with packing inside the vagical canal. Once the wound vac and catheter came out I was able to start walking around, dilating, showering, and urinating on my own.

Recovery at home has been going well, and I just returned to work (for part time shifts) this week. The past 2 weeks I've been a lot more mobile, and pain and swelling have been going down considerably.

My only concern has been some wound seperation at the bottom of the surgical area, with my left labia not fully attached. My doctor said I may need a revision which I'm not thrilled about, but have come to turns with.

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[glioblastoma multiforme]

Or she’s in a rehab, and you very rarely get to stay for months there. It’s usually two to four weeks.

Depends where she is and whose paying. Over here most government funded places are a 3 month stay, otherwise it depends how much money you have. Of course they catch you if you score from there, but consequences of scoring aren't usually enough to put addicts off.....

Either way, we are in agreement that pooner is lying, its just quibbling about details. As an opiate addict, whether in recovery or not, she absolutely is not a candidate for HRT or SRS but I doubt her doctors will care.

 

[Fapcop]

Depends where she is and whose paying. Over here most government funded places are a 3 month stay, otherwise it depends how much money you have. Of course they catch you if you score from there, but consequences of scoring aren't usually enough to put addicts off.....

Oh dang really? What part of the world is that?

Three months is really too short for something like addiction, but at least it’s better than the 3-4 weeks they usually get away with in the US.

I wonder what the addiction rates are among pooners.

They’re obviously all high as a kite on opiates post surgery when we often see their early “I’m just so euphoric I finally have a flappy/stinkditch guise!” Posts.

But it’d be interesting to see how many of them permanently get some kind of perc/hydrocodone/MS prescription because of nerve pain or urological damage or whatever.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Again and again you see them having to cope with, confront, adjust to, and accept all the insane unnecessary blood, guts, wound separation, UTIs, loss of function, vulnerability, misery, depression, financial hardship, surgical failure, neurosis, pain, and suffering.

They think that getting "misgendered" is worse than all of that.

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

What part of the world is that?

Three months is really too short for something like addiction, but at least it’s better than the 3-4 weeks they usually get away with in the US.

Its the UK. Unfortunately the number of publicly funded places is miniscule. I got told that for an entire county containing a city with a massive drug problem, there were 5 per year but I don't know how true that is, people certainly wait years. Meanwhile well over 50% of prisoners are in for drugs related crimes and its more expensive to house in prison then send to rehab..... Totally defies logic.

I suspect that most SRS recipients are setting themselves up for a future of pain medication, even if they get zero complications off the bat.

 

[LongDayAgain]

You're not allowed neither in the eyes of god nor the law to murder when you turn 18, and the same should be the case with mutilating your own genitals because the schizophrenic voices tell you to.

I think these surgeries should be illegal, but trooning out up to that point is not something I want to criminalise.

 

[Jizzrag]

Yet lol’ pooner how wants to tell us she somehow experienced withdrawals for over three months AKA ONE FOURTH OF A YEAR? That’s biologically impossible.

benzodiazepines can take a very long time to safely get off of. I know someone who was at detox for 3 months going off it. Not rehab, detox. Idk if you’ve been at detox before but it’s basically nothing to do there, most people are sick of it after a week.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

how phallo broke her.

I don't understand how anyone, especially a doctor thinks putting a mentally ill girl through an intense surgery like phallo would improve their wellbeing. Even on a 'normal' person the spirit needs to be strong to get through it. Its the kind of surgery you never want to go through unless it was actually like saving like some kinda cancer treatment or from the result of an accident or congenital defect.

 

[Fapcop]

I don't understand how anyone, especially a doctor thinks putting a mentally ill girl through an intense surgery like phallo would improve their wellbeing. Even on a 'normal' person the spirit needs to be strong to get through it. Its the kind of surgery you never want to go through unless it was actually like saving like some kinda cancer treatment or from the result of an accident or congenital defect.

That’s why the corruption and takeover of medical institutions has been so insidious and effective.

Doctors may have their doubts, but at the end of the day they’ll shrug and say: “Well, according to the X these procedures are safe and effective, so who am I to argue? After all, I don’t have the big picture!”

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

especially a doctor thinks putting a mentally ill girl through an intense surgery like phallo would improve their wellbeing.

The butcher only sees . And genital butchers LOVE to butcher people. It's not about the victims wellbeing, it's about money and trying new techniques/improving old ones. Only a few will reject a willing tranny victim and lose money in the process. Also a satisfied customer only makes money once. So I'm sure that there are sick fucks out there who are doing awful work on purpose so that the tranny has to come back for more surgeries over and over again.

 

[Jacques1194]

I don't understand how anyone, especially a doctor thinks putting a mentally ill girl through an intense surgery like phallo would improve their wellbeing. Even on a 'normal' person the spirit needs to be strong to get through it. Its the kind of surgery you never want to go through unless it was actually like saving like some kinda cancer treatment or from the result of an accident or congenital defect.

TBH what i dont understand are the people who think these doctors have their patients best interests.I've scrolled through this thread sometimes, and i seriously wonder how anyone can look at these surgeries and go "This is the only solution to save gender dysphoric people.Self acceptance is bigotry."Mind you these are the same people who are the biggest anti capitalist and anti mega corporations, and yet they can't see how the trans social contagion is the biggest capitalist money making scheme of the modern day era.

 

[Mad_Dog]

I don't understand how anyone, especially a doctor thinks putting a mentally ill girl through an intense surgery like phallo would improve their wellbeing. Even on a 'normal' person the spirit needs to be strong to get through it. Its the kind of surgery you never want to go through unless it was actually like saving like some kinda cancer treatment or from the result of an accident or congenital defect.

Demonic influence is real.

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

Mind you these are the same people who are the biggest anti capitalist and anti mega corporations

It's easy to call themselves that when their only form of activism is to make aesthetically cute posts on instagram saying "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" or another over repeated phrase. Their militancy is shallow and only think about themselves. See how many troons are sporting ill-fitting clothes from Shein when it's well known to be a not sustainable brand.
Many of those butchers justify what they do by stating they are saving lives and making progress, but the only progress I see here are new, fucked up ways to mutilate and sterilize mentally ill people. And make some good money, that's all that matters.
Don't be fooled by the pretty words the troons say online, they aren't helping with saving the world or whatever. They are a bunch of mentally ill people who are spending tons of taxpayer's money to get the most horrifying procedures and putting a strain on the people who know them. None of them are capable to self reflection. It's all about self-fulfillment.

i seriously wonder how anyone can look at these surgeries and go "This is the only solution to save gender dysphoric people.Self acceptance is bigotry.

One thing that we've seen time and time again around here is that people that expose the truths behind SRS/GRS are quickly shut down, banned from the communities or accused to be a TERF trying to discourage people from getting surgery and spreading lies to shock people. It is a cult. There are a lot of people who fell into it that are afraid to share their doubts because they don't want to be seen as anti trans. You have to accept what is being fed to you, or else the hugbox is gone and you are left with nothing. I suggest you to read the Scrambled Eggs: Kiwi Farms Detransitioner and Desister General thread to get a little bit of insight from the people who have escaped. It's grim.
Also, many of the "good" results are still uncanny valley-y. They are promised the real deal and are left with a dollar store faux vagina/penis if they are really lucky.

 

[Kumquat]

TBH what i dont understand are the people who think these doctors have their patients best interests.I've scrolled through this thread sometimes, and i seriously wonder how anyone can look at these surgeries and go "This is the only solution to save gender dysphoric people.Self acceptance is bigotry."Mind you these are the same people who are the biggest anti capitalist and anti mega corporations, and yet they can't see how the trans social contagion is the biggest capitalist money making scheme of the modern day era.

There's this really massive misconception in society when it comes to doctors, and it's not just trannies who fall victim to it. Medicine is the one business where almost everyone believes that they're somehow above all of us common peasants. After all, they went to school for decades, they're super smart and educated, and it's medicine, an industry where you purport to help people. Doctors are the modern day equivalent of bishops and deacons. Holy men on a mission from God, they would never do anything untoward, right?

People fail to realize that the medical industry is just that. An industry. And just like any other industry, it exists to make money. Very few of these doctors would be practicing if they weren't getting a fat paycheck for it. People forget that doctors, just like saints, are human too. They're just as susceptible to greed and corruption as anyone else, but good luck trying to convince anybody of that. Doctors have insanely good PR and legal teams, and people just assume that they are all well-intentioned people doing their best to help humanity.

 

[An empty shill]

Doctors are the modern day equivalent of bishops and deacons. Holy men on a mission from God, they would never do anything untoward, right?

People fail to realize that the medical industry is just that. An industry. And just like any other industry, it exists to make money. Very few of these doctors would be practicing if they weren't getting a fat paycheck for it. People forget that doctors, just like saints, are human too. They're just as susceptible to greed and corruption as anyone else, but good luck trying to convince anybody of that. Doctors have insanely good PR and legal teams, and people just assume that they are all well-intentioned people doing their best to help humanity.

This isn't 100% true anymore.
I made post a while back in this thread where I said all you have to do is look at how doctors are portrayed in media.
Back in the day doctors where shown as being caring, just like one of the family. Slowly but surely you can see the mistrust starting to seep in during the decades, I think a lot of people don't trust their doctors really all that much anymore, however like I quoted from your post, a lot of people are also made to feel like assholes if they dare doubt the good doctor.

I think one way that all of this insanity could be made to stop is to expose that a LOT of these doctors are indeed; nothing more but money grubbing assholes. Once you get that out for everyone to see, it might become easier to finally put a stop to all of this bullshit.
At least you'd like to think that.

 

[hufflemuff]

Again and again you see them having to cope with, confront, adjust to, and accept all the insane unnecessary blood, guts, wound separation, UTIs, loss of function, vulnerability, misery, depression, financial hardship, surgical failure, neurosis, pain, and suffering. And yet for some reason they simply cannot deal and avoid all this by confronting and getting over feeling uncomfy with their natural bodies.

I know troons would say "well that just goes to show how terrible 'gender dysphoria' is! We'd rather suffer this than endure that!"

But I say, bullshit. Anyone who wants to remove and/or mutilate healthy tissue and unnecessarily become a lifelong medical patient is mentally ill. And putting up with pissing blood sideways from a rotting stump doesn't prove you really needed it to survive. You could have just applied that determination to get over having a pussy, but you're insane and society has thrown you to the wolves I guess? But this is all so unnecessary. Either you've got (or can build) the endurance and the stamina to ovecome, or you don't. The people who will actually 41% over not getting surgery end up killing themselves afterward anyway. Because it isn't actually about a need for surgery and never was.
I need a drink. With a little top-hat umbrella

How are we at a point where you need endurance and stamina to overcome being a man/woman lmao why

 

[Kumquat]

This isn't 100% true anymore.
I made post a while back in this thread where I said all you have to do is look at how doctors are portrayed in media.
Back in the day doctors where shown as being caring, just like one of the family. Slowly but surely you can see the mistrust starting to seep in during the decades, I think a lot of people don't trust their doctors really all that much anymore, however like I quoted from your post, a lot of people are also made to feel like assholes if they dare doubt the good doctor.

I think one way that all of this insanity could be made to stop is to expose that a LOT of these doctors are indeed; nothing more but money grubbing assholes. Once you get that out for everyone to see, it might become easier to finally put a stop to all of this bullshit.
At least you'd like to think that.

I agree, it's not 100% anymore, but it's still a very pervasive mindset, and it's one of those things that just makes people really uncomfortable. After all, if you can't even trust your doctor, then just who the hell can you trust? I think COVID really started to expose just how corrupt a lot of these so-called "experts" really are, but honestly, you don't even need to necessarily convince people that they're corrupt. You really just need to demonstrate that doctors are people. As people, that means that they can be wrong. They aren't infallible. Doctors make mistakes and screw up all the time. People like to bring up the example of lobotomies (never let people forget that António Egas Moniz, the doctor who came up with the procedure, won a Nobel prize in medicine for his "discovery") but there's plenty of examples of doctors getting things horribly, unfathomably wrong. It wasn't all that long ago that doctors were prescribing cigarettes as a treatment for anxiety. Doctors fudging the numbers and prescribing massive amounts of opioids for pain relief. The list goes on and on...

Doctors are human. They fuck up. A lot. People just need to realize that "science" is not some infallible system, and that plenty of people, some with the best of intentions, get things abysmally wrong, many times.

 

[Hepativore]

This isn't 100% true anymore.
I made post a while back in this thread where I said all you have to do is look at how doctors are portrayed in media.
Back in the day doctors where shown as being caring, just like one of the family. Slowly but surely you can see the mistrust starting to seep in during the decades, I think a lot of people don't trust their doctors really all that much anymore, however like I quoted from your post, a lot of people are also made to feel like assholes if they dare doubt the good doctor.

I think one way that all of this insanity could be made to stop is to expose that a LOT of these doctors are indeed; nothing more but money grubbing assholes. Once you get that out for everyone to see, it might become easier to finally put a stop to all of this bullshit.
At least you'd like to think that.

I think a lot of it also depends on the area of medicine. I would say that your humble general physicians, trauma surgeons, or internal medicine specialists are generally doing honest if difficult and thankless jobs. This is because there are really no trends to chase after or all that much extra money to be made if you are putting somebody's viscera back into their abdominal cavity if they have been disemboweled in an industrial accident.

However, the plastic surgery industry is a different animal entirely. This is where surgeons can make the big bucks and is also prone to attract the types of people who are in it for the financial gain with the welfare of their patients being a distant second.

Now, this is not to tar plastic surgeons with too broad of a brush, as many of them do necessary and difficult work such as reconstructing the bodies of trauma victims or trying to correct various congenital deformities that affect quality of life.

I am not sure where you would separate the former from the butchers that do SRS, but this is one of the reasons why SRS should be banned. Still, even with existing ethical medical guidelines, SRS fails on many accounts even if it is considered an "experimental procedure" by many ethics boards, yet there seems to have been a carve-out for it put into place by the trans movement. There is a world of difference between somebody getting a facelift or breast augmentation and somebody trying to get their entire genitourinary tract rerouted with an almost universally-bad outcome.

 

[Sissyagamben]

I am not sure where you would separate the former from the butchers that do SRS, but this is one of the reasons why SRS should be banned. Still, even with existing ethical medical guidelines, SRS fails on many accounts even if it is considered an "experimental procedure" by many ethics boards, yet there seems to have been a carve-out for it put into place by the trans movement. There is a world of difference between somebody getting a facelift or breast augmentation and somebody trying to get their entire genitourinary tract rerouted with an almost universally-bad outcome

I think it’s JP who said surgeons in general already have lower empathy than average, and judging by the contend of their work it makes sense. Now if they are after money and won’t hesitate to make a bpd hoe’s lips and nose super botched, I can at least understand a little bit. Any above board plastic surgeon in the West will stop at any procedures that’ll permanently blind someone or make someone’s nose collapse. I can’t even put myself in the shoes of a SRS surgeon. How tf do you wake up everyday ,rub your hands together and say “let’s cut breasts off little kids and staple a roll of arm meat on a retarded woman who’s gonna wear that stomach catheter for the rest of her life”