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>OH VEY, HOW DARE YOU POST THAT ANTI SEMETIC SQUID?! DON'T YOU KNOW IT'S A WHITE SUPREMACIST DOG WHISTLE ON HOW JEWS SECRETLY CONTROL THE WORLD, WHICH BTW THEY DON'T? APOLOGIZE AT ONCE, SHISKA!
>Wait, what? It's a plush toy aimed at autistics? Carry on the, and forget about all that stuff with Jews controlling the world, it's not true!
>Wait, what? It's a plush toy aimed at autistics? Carry on the, and forget about all that stuff with Jews controlling the world, it's not true!
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Scrolled past this and the thumbnail made me lol
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vs the first second of video
He knows he can select which frame is used...right?
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vs the first second of video
He knows he can select which frame is used...right?
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He's have a much bigger following if he started telling people he was Kyle Gas.
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He should pick a frame that is not of his face.
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Sean (forum user here on the farms, and based lawtube guy known as potentially criminal) did a flipping wholesome stream with his wife-to-be:
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A bit late, but Viva does have tendency to say stupid shit. He's not as smart or well read as he likes to present himself and it shows. Like at the beginning of ruskies war he tried to assert himself as an Ukraininan Jew? To make his points more valid, I guess?
Deleted comment was pointing that it was Lwów, Poland, not Lviv, Ukraine, because the signs are in Polish and the first thing the ukies did after taking over the city was to destroy every bit of polishness that was still left.
I liked his vids and commentary at the very beginning, but then he met with Barnes and he has this weird dynamics with, like he laps everything Barnes says and he's the naive
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I only discovered Viva after his partnership with Barnes was already established.
I first discovered him when he made a guest appearance as their American legal expert (lol!) on the old Beauty and the Beta Matt Christiansen & Blonde YT show.
Viva's main positive attribute is that he's affable. I think he's a good father as well (and also cares for two disabled dogs).
He doesn't bring much to the table from a legal perspective though in terms of knowledge or analysis.
Like Nick Rekieta, he also doesn't tend to do any show prep or research, so he's reading articles live with the audience for the first time in real time.
I stopped watching Viva about a year ago, but pre-Florida move, Freiheit, similar to Nick, didn't have a professional dedication to streaming. His streaming schedule came secondary to whenever he had to pick up his kids up from school (when he was still in Montreal).
I also didn't like how he fled Canada. Viva made tons of money covering the trucker protest in person in February 2022. On July 1st, 2022, he had already crossed the border with all his belongings heading to Florida on a 3 year work visa without telling anyone publicly.
It makes me wonder if he already had his immigration papers secretly filed while raking in superchat cash at the February protest. Even if he didn't yet, he still essentially grifted his Canadian anti-COVID mandate audience for the next 4 months pretending he was fighting the good fight when he already had checked out.
Viva's other strength used to be reporting on issues from the ground in Canada. But now I have no time for someone commenting on domestic issues from the safety of Florida, even if I understand why he left.
Another issue is the fact that Freiheit made a big deal about never entering any retail establishments requiring vax passes in 2022 in Quebec despite the fact that he was jabbed personally.
Well, apparently those principles similarly went out the window in his move to Florida a few months later, as AFAIK purebloods still remain banned from being accepted for immigration work visas.
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Pretty cryptic from Gosney. Sounds like he's just bored.
Steve lasted about a year. I remember watching his first ever stream on Rekieta's show in fall '22 when I still watched.
I wonder if Steve is also taking a hiatus from writing his whole anthology of short books.
He mostly started guesting and streaming as a vehicle to sell his self-published works.
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Pretty cryptic from Gosney. Sounds like he's just bored.
Steve lasted about a year. I remember watching his first ever stream on Rekieta's show in fall '22 when I still watched.
I wonder if Steve is also taking a hiatus from writing his whole anthology of short books.
He mostly started guesting and streaming as a vehicle to sell his self-published works.
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Gosney is doing a stream explaining his future plans and that he is quitting streaming because he is seeing 'warning signs' that this is not the way for him to go. He implies God is telling it to him. He has plans to do more books and to help get the FL death penalty abolished. He also has more cases coming up that he needs to work on.
https://twitter.com/gosney_steven/status/1730391317321240932
Stream is not finished as of this time of post.
https://twitter.com/gosney_steven/status/1730391317321240932
Stream is not finished as of this time of post.
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Thanks for the tip.
Watched most of the hiatus stream.
It was two hours of meandering and navelgazing. Branca got annoyed and tapped out before it ended to hot tub with his wife.
TL;DW
- Gosney quitting streaming has nothing to do with Nick or Lawtube drama.
- He specifically mentioned he wants to continue guesting on Nick, Branca, Vices and Good Lawgic to sell his books and because he enjoys it
- He's not really quitting, he's mostly just shuttering his own Rumble channel for a while, plans to still guest occasionally
- He alluded that he's a poor judge of character and has been spurned a few times thinking other Lawtubers were better friends like IRL. He named no names. Him & Branca talked how all the Lawtubers are like actors playing characters, whatever their channel brand is and whatever the algorithm pushes them towards to make money.
- Gosney doesn't like being in sales, asking for superchats, feels like superchats are a zero-sum game between creators.
- While he's had no explicit disagreements, he senses "smoke signals" that some Lawtubers perceive him as a potential threat financially
- He loves the adoration and soapboxing streaming provides, but also feels like an idol sometimes. And he fears that humanity loves to tear down their idols.
I didn't get the sense that Nick's degeneracy or recent d'Adesky/Sean meltdowns from Nick had anything to do with Gosney sort-of-quitting. His reasons seem entirely internally focused. None of Nick's lolcowism was addressed whatsoever.
In the segment where Gosney talked about struggling to read people, Branca personally bragged about being an expert judge of character.
Branca framed it in a limited way, essentially saying he only feels comfortable at this point going on panels on either Nick or Joe's channel. His reasoning was that panels elsewhere always have "2-3 SJW (my words)" types that are into cancel culture. He implied they were always looking to start a cancel crusade for financial gain.
He didn't name names, but this seemed to be directed at Natalielawyerchick. I suppose he also could include Faran and Chrissie Mayr.
Branca didn't include Nick at all in the YTubers that raise his hackles "within the first minute".
Branca mentioned he doesn't care at all about his YT channel, only his business. He's demonetized the whole thing. He said he doesn't enjoy streaming and only sees it a positive to promote his other stuff.
Not caring about his channel gives Andrew the freedom to hang out with Nick for trialstreams. Nick's bigger audience helps Branca sell books. Andrew plans on streaming trials with Nick again whenever they start for personal gain. He recognizes that other Lawtubers aren't in his position and can't just hang around other people's channels being paid in exposure.
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What's everyone's take on Gosney? Is he just a lawtube fan boy that's gotten disenfranchised once he peeked behind the curtain?
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He's a True Believer in The Faith of the Catholic Church, and if (he thinks) God said go do something else, he's gonna do it.
I'm honestly glad he doesn't seem to have been corrupted by the shitheads and coomers.
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What @Dixieland Buckaroo said, plus him being a bit naive.
He is also a real practicing lawyer with morals and principles. Actually having the balls to be the final counsel in appeal cases to keep people from the electric chair and wanting to get thr death penalty abolished on a moral/legal basis is admirable--even if you do not share his views.
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For added context, Gosney's stream lasted something like 2 hours, 18 minutes.
The section described by my lengthy post about "Lawtubers/streamers are phony" accounts for probably less than 10 minutes.
The rest is Gosney painfully going through a "decision matrix" exercise about positive and negative arguments about whether or not streaming makes him happy.
The man is gregarious, but also a self-described "creative" personality unlike other lawyers.
- He has two big capital murder cases coming up. He says each one takes him 3 months to write the brief and he has to work on each case entirely alone.
- The two more senior lawyers in his office are able to retire. This will make him the most senior, and everyone will start coming to him for wisdom. Also Steve implied FL was gung-ho re: capital charges, so lots of cases lining up forever
- He's writing a law review article about the reforms he'd like to see in the '"Reasonable Doubt" standard in FL
- He's writing a reference tome about procedures and strategies capital public defenders in FL should use. Apparently he's writing this on work time.
- He's teaching the Criminal Procedure section of Branca's fake law school classes
- He's stressed with his book publishing because his wife expects him to at least break even despite his generous lawyer salary. He has to order 125 books each run for the numbers to work. Then he stresses out when he is sitting on so much unsold inventory. Then he dreads ordering another 125 unit run restarting the process. Two of his books are still in the red, most have broke even, one was profitable (his law one I believe).
- He's currently shipping an illustrated children's book with Christian messaging about a dog (named Burmie?). He's going to a local college bookfair with his wife on a weekend to sell copies at a booth (Branca showed a picture of his copy having arrived that morning).
- He's invested 3k into producing a black&white soft-covered, lower quality version of his children's book to distribute as a non-profit venture to friends
- He wants to write a 3-part fantasy novel anthology
- He wants to spend more time with his wife & college-aged son.
- Steve has one remaining commitment to stream with some guitar legend on Gosney's channel.
Gosney was all over the place. It was obvious that he'd already decided that streaming barely registered on his shotgun blast list of future goals and commitments.
Branca tried to emphasize that a man can only have one "mission" in life, including either a career or a creative passion.
70-80% percent of your energy goes to this mission, another 15-25% left to your family, leaving 5% for "other stuff that doesn't really matter".
Branca implied that Steve's mission was giving representation to men on death's row. Everything other than your "mission" and your family is just a hobby and should be treated accordingly.
Branca implied that Steve should treat his writing as a hobby and not worry about sales. He also said that if he wants it to be more than a hobby, he'd have to leave the law and focus on just one genre of book.
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Sean's response to a superchat from the end of last night's stream re: Gosney quitting.
I swear to God I'm going to stop.
But I just remembered the anecdote from Gosney's quitting stream about how Steve and Branca met.
I'd always assumed they were old law school or work buddies by the way they talk to each other.
But Steve talked about how they "met". Gosney is a Florida Man lifer, while Branca was raised in NYC, working in Boston and now runs his business from Colorado.
Gosney discussed that he met Branca when he sent Andrew a legal question email when Steve was already a public defender and Branca was already doing his self defense consultancy. So their relationship isn't as old as they make it out to be.
Supposedly Branca personally responded to the email and they eventually became acquaintances via email correspondence. Steve's anecdote didn't even mention an IRL encounter. Though Gosney talks about Branca's wife and child (children?) with enough familiarity and fondness that presumably they've met.
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As opposed to starting a crusade to dunk on natlawyerchick for financial gain.
Don't hold your breath Andrew.
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It came out on stream this week that Sean (Potentially Criminal) is probably a foamer. Sean knew enough to pull this video up when the topic of train enthusiasts came up:
It was suggested he change his channel name to Foamer Law. (Which would cause all kinds of confusion if Balldoman actually changes his channel name to Former Law.)
It was suggested he change his channel name to Foamer Law. (Which would cause all kinds of confusion if Balldoman actually changes his channel name to Former Law.)
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That's definitely some serious foaming.
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Rob aka Law & Lumber is engaged to be married. Emily D. Baker congratulated him on her stream this morning after people in the chat were talking about Rob having announced it himself on a members only live last night. Comments on Emily’s live made reference to “she” & ”the future Mrs. / wife”.
According to people on X, during Rob’s members live he showed photos of the fiancé & she is a red haired woman. Went & checked the talk on X specifically to verify this point (that he’s indeed engaged to a female) since it has been assumed he is gay.
(Mostly due to comments made by Balldo Rackets)
Didn’t see or hear it directly from Rob (don’t usually watch him) but all second hand information seems to confirm that he is marrying a true & honest woman.
According to people on X, during Rob’s members live he showed photos of the fiancé & she is a red haired woman. Went & checked the talk on X specifically to verify this point (that he’s indeed engaged to a female) since it has been assumed he is gay.
(Mostly due to comments made by Balldo Rackets)
Didn’t see or hear it directly from Rob (don’t usually watch him) but all second hand information seems to confirm that he is marrying a true & honest woman.