If the Canadian Provinces joined the U.S., it would be the greatest thing to happen to the North American continent in modern history - Candian-American Unification: A Thread

Should Canada merge into the U.S.


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If the Canadian provinces were to join the U.S., it would be the greatest thing to happen to the North American continent in centuries. There would be an economic boom in the region not seen since the wake of WWII. Landwise, the result would be the largest empire the world has ever seen, and its residents would acquire untold wealth as a result. Economic output that has previously been wasted maintaining a poitnless border could instead be spent on scientific/technological development, social services, infrastructure, and much more.

Most of the time this discussion comes up, naysayers like to highlight the differences of the two nations. In reality, the similarities are jarring. Canadians and Americans are more alike than perhaps any other two nationalities in the whole world. They speak the same language, have similar demographics, share similar ideals, and are similarly isolated from the rest of the world. The fact that people like to highlight such minor differences as British heritage only reaffirms just how compatible both nations are. In reality, should Candians join The Union, they would maintain their British heritage just how the people of Santa Fe maintain their Spanish heritage, New Orleans its French, etc.

Why this would benefit Canadians

Canadians would be given access to far more resources to properly utilize their Northerly natural reserves. Politically, the region would become much more balanced, the Western provinces would no longer need to kowtow to Ontario for every decision. Albertans would have less red-tape when extracting oil, and would likely see a huge new wave of investments from U.S. oil companies. The farmers of Saskatchewan wouldn't be subject to counter-productive ecological legislation from Ontario. Especially for Western Canada, the provinces would have greater autonomy as states. Furthermore, assuming Quebec wouldn't become independent in such a merge, the U.S. Federal Government wouldn't need to court Quebecois nearly as much as the Canadian Government does, allowing for a more managable balance of powers.

Many Canadian firms do a LOT of business with the United States. In fact, Canada and the U.S. are consistently each other's biggest trading partners. Joining the Union would remove a lot of red tape and be a huge boon to economic output. Canadian firms would acquire much easier access to American talent overnight, not have to deal with import/export regulations/taxes, immigration, etc. Over 90% of Canadians live within 150 miles of the U.S. border. Conversely, this would give Canadians access to a much larger labor market. Vancouverites could seek labor in Seattle, etc. Not to mention, with the cost of living crisis in Canada, Candians being able to move into nearby U.S. cities would give Canada's up and coming generation a chance at affording a better lifestyle, and drive down costs in overpriced Canadian cities. Assuming Ontario wouldn't be independent in this shift, this would be a huge second chance for young people in Toronto, Mississauga, etc.

The U.S. is the only country that Canada shares a land border with. Maintaining such a large border is extremely costly. Removing this border would allow money currently being wasted on slowing business down to flow into production, social services, schools, etc. Furthermore, U.S. foreign Policy directly impacts Canadians. Giving Canadians a seat at the table in Washington would give Canadians a much greater say in their future.

Why this would benefit Americans

As the Arctic sea continues to melt, the global north grows increasingly relevant in global trade. In fact, Anchorage, Alaska has already become a shipping hub for air travel between the U.S. and Europe. The U.S. has the resources to build infrastructure in the far north for such shipping enterprises. Remember back in 2019 when Trump was kicking around the idea of buying Greenland? This is why. As it currently stands, Russia is positioned to have a great deal of control over the Arctic Ocean. Should Canada join the U.S., it would have a much greater presence over future trade routes.

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Politically, most Canadian provinces would be a perfect fit for the U.S. Outside of Vancouver Island, Western Canada is much more closely aligned with U.S. politics than Ontario. Talk to any Albertan, Saskatchewananian, or British Columbian (again, outside of Vancouver). Many of the Canadians are in favor of gun ownership, limited governance, freedom of speech, etc. A kneejerk reaction a lot of Americans have to this discussion is that they wouldn't want to take on Canada's problems with authoritarianism, gun grabbing, government overreach, etc. Many of these problems are purely a result of the balance of powers between Ontario and the rest of Canada. For an American example, the rust belt would have similar problems if it was its own country and Chicago called all the shots. On a related note, this would formally give the U.S. access to the Saint Lawrence river, gaurenteeing those rust belt states access to the Atlantic.

Canada joining the Union would give the U.S. newfound access to North America's equivalent of Siberia: the Great North. All of the oil, lumber, natural gas, and mineral deposits would have a lot of red tape ripped off them to be utilized. These could be extracted by U.S. companies and drive commodity prices down. Cheaper lumber means a lower cost to build new construction. Cheaper natural gas means lower energy bills. Cheaper oil facilitates the entire economy, and would give the U.S. more leverage when dealing with the Saudis.

Remember how earlier I mentioned all that wealth that is wasted policing our border with Canada? If Canada joined U.S., all those resources spent on the Norther border could instead be spent on the Southern border. Nearly all of Canada's immigration happens by boat or plane, there would be no new northern border to police. In an ideal world, this could lead to less Government spending and lower taxes as it would free up federal resources.

Conclusion

Should Canada merge into the U.S., it would be a fantastic, historical event for both parties involved. Such a merge would lead to a huge economic boom and put to bed many inconvienences that hold the continent back. The result would be the largest land empire in the history of the world, and would be incredibly stable. Even if Ontario and Quebec where to remain indepenedent, everyone would benefit.
 
Would Canada still be ruled by the British King?

How would we account for the shift in voting demographics? America would be a left-wing nation for the next several generations.
If Ontario stayed independent, there really wouldn't be much of a shift. Even if the U.S. took in ALL of Canada, Quebec and Ontario included, it would only be 37 Million new residents. It would move the needle in the U.S. a lot less than one would assume.

Most Canadians, especially in the West, are pretty conservative if you talk to them. BC would be basically like taking in another Washington/Oregon in more ways than just geography alone. Vancouver is the population hub of BC, but rural BC is pretty red. Same story with Manitoba.
 
The US would inherit the problems of Canada as well, which surprisingly don't just consist of a maple syrup shortage. I think they work better as a pseudo-vassal state.
 
If the Canadian provinces Mexican states were to join the U.S., it would be the greatest thing to happen to the North American continent in centuries. There would be an economic boom in the region not seen since the wake of WWII. Landwise, the result would be the largest empire the world has ever seen, and its residents would acquire untold wealth as a result. Economic output that has previously been wasted maintaining a poitnless border could instead be spent on scientific/technological development, social services, infrastructure, and much more.

Most of the time this discussion comes up, naysayers like to highlight the differences of the two nations. In reality, the similarities are jarring. Canadians Mexicans and Americans are more alike than perhaps any other two nationalities in the whole world. They speak the same language, have similar demographics, share similar ideals, and are similarly isolated from the rest of the world. The fact that people like to highlight such minor differences as British Spanish heritage only reaffirms just how compatible both nations are. In reality, should Candians Mexicans join The Union, they would maintain their British Spanish heritage just how the people of Santa Fe New England maintain their Spanish British heritage, New Orleans its French, etc.
 
Would it make executing the day of the rake easier?

If so, let's get that unification going already
 
If it brings us greater integration with the glory that is Masaokis, I am all for it.

He can find more takeout foods to bury and do various odd things in a mysterious apartment much cheaper than in Montreal.
 
When Biden starts World War 3 and the US is nuked by the Russians, the radioactive wastelands of the Lower 48 will soon be overrun by hordes of feral Canuks, baying for maple syrup.
 
I don't know. There would be large swaths of the US and Canada that would have to be glassed before I would approve of this.

Only if they nuke Toronto....and Ottawa...and Trudeau...twice.

Include Vancouver, BC, possibly Victoria, and then most of the lower Western Coast of the US.

Canadians I see overall as my brothers and sisters though. When I was up there, I'd forget I wasn't in the US but for the fucking King and Queen everywhere and bagged milk and fuel by the liter. But you all are alright otherwise.
 
The only benefit would be the influx of white people, ensuring white dominance in America for the foreseeable future. The negative would be the influx of leftists ensuring the downfall of American society within just a few decades.
 
Canada has so much clusterfuck of issues you wouldn't even know where to untangle.

It's like North Korea and South Korea. South Korea clearly needs North Korean slave labor force right now. Reunification would be great from that point of view. But every other problems like infrastructure, economy, debt, and culture is too big of a hassle, which is why south don't give a shit about reunification anymore.
 
Ah yes just what we need, more smug tranny lovers
 
The United States was founded as a liberal democracy and will always be so. In this way, America is comparable to the Soviet Union; its sole purpose for existing is to spread an ideological system. It's no surprise that America routinely produces the most insane ideological fanatics in history, including Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, George Bush and Abraham Lincoln. America fought wars of extermination, killing millions of young men, across the globe to spread "human rights," "democracy," and "liberalism."

The "American" identity is a fake construct. There is no such thing as "the American nation." There are 2 nations in America, the Yankees and the Dixies. The North, in their quest to create an all consuming ideological state, subjugated and destroyed the South to create their "indivisible union." The Soviet Union tried to create a united "Soviet" identity not based on race or ethnicity, but ideological purity. The American identity is based on liberal-democratic ideological purity. You can NOT be an American if you don't believe in democracy as the only legitimate and moral form of government.

If Canada were to join the United States, it would be the death of both the Anglo and French Canadian nations. Democracy can only destroy, not create. America, because it will always be a democracy, needs to be destroyed.
 
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