US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Polyboros2]

I joke about wanting the American Caesar and Senator Armstrong posting, but what I really want is the American Sulla, especially if I can get those two talents for carrying out a proscription.

 

[The Nothingness]

BBC trying to build Nikki Haley as the future of the post-Trump Republican Party. Lol, lmao even.

Nikki Haley shares her personal playlist with the small but growing crowds at her campaign stops in Iowa.

As supporters wait for her to appear they are treated to music from Queen, Abba and Pat Benatar.

Middle of the road, easy listening, the music sets the mood. Ms Haley is running a decidedly middle-of-the-road campaign, pitching herself as the moderate, traditional, mainstream conservative candidate.

There are just five weeks before the Iowa caucuses will provide the first real test of the electoral appeal of the various Republican candidates.

The Iowa caucuses are part of the primaries, in which each state decides on who they want as party nominee. The overall winner is officially crowned at the Republican National Convention (RNC) - a big political event in July 2024.

Iowa results can make or break campaigns. So Ms Haley - like all her Republican rivals - is crisscrossing the state speaking to as many as voters as possible.

Her policy platform includes tax cuts for small businesses and the middle class. She is promising to shrink the size of the federal government and reduce the deficit. And she is warning that it would endanger America's national security to reduce support for either Israel or Ukraine.

It's easy to see how this campaign could have won her the nomination in years gone by.

But can it succeed in a Republican Party that's been transformed by Donald Trump? The people he has brought to the party detest the kind of establishment politics Haley is selling.

At an event billed as being about "Faith and Family" at Dordt University, she was joined on stage by her 23-year-old daughter Rena. Other candidates brought their spouses, but Ms Haley's husband is on a year-long deployment to Africa with the National Guard.

Interviewed on stage by the local Republican congressman, Randy Feenstra, Ms Haley said: "We won't defeat Democratic chaos with Republican chaos - and that's what Donald Trump brings."

The university auditorium was busy, if not packed, on a freezing cold Saturday morning. Iowa voters take their "first in the nation" responsibilities seriously and many like to see every candidate in the flesh before making up their minds

Most people I spoke to afterwards were impressed with Ms Haley's experience as a former governor of South Carolina and her smooth professional demeanour.

Braeden Nydim told me he was torn between Ms Haley and Ron DeSantis. He said he sees Ms Haley as "much more composed and calm," which builds a lot of confidence in her. His wife, Emma Nydim, thinks Ms Haley "does a good job of walking the middle ground and not being too party-versus-party".

Stacey Harmelink voted for Mr Trump in 2016 and 2020, but after seeing Ms Haley at a local event she became a campaign volunteer. "I see her bringing people together and with Donald Trump, there's a lot of divisiveness and I don't think our country needs that right now."

But those are the views of people who are actively looking for an alternative to Mr Trump. The few of his supporters who had turned up had not had their minds changed at all.

Doyle Turner said he sees Ms Haley as "already too much of a candidate of the establishment. I don't agree with her views on Ukraine or the world environment at all. "

Ms Haley's campaign has been significantly boosted by big influential donors who want to move on from Mr Trump. The political network, Americans for Prosperity Action - founded by Charles and David Koch - is giving her millions of dollars to try to cement her as the sole anti-Trump candidate.

Emily Seidel, a senior adviser to Americans for Prosperity Action, said that Ms Haley would win "the key independent and moderate voters that Trump has no chance to win," and that the country "is being ripped apart by extremes on both sides".

She added that "the moment we face requires a tested leader with the governing judgment and policy experience to pull our nation back from the brink. Nikki Haley is that leader."

A recent poll in the Wall Street Journal suggested that in a head to head match up with Joe Biden, Ms Haley would beat him by 17 points.

Other polls suggest that she would be more electable than Mr Trump next November. But when it comes to Republican voters choosing who they want as their presidential candidate, the the polls show the former president is miles ahead of Ms Haley and everyone else.

So as Ms Haley poses for selfies with excited supporters after a small town hall event in Clear Lake, Iowa, it looks as though she is performing remarkably well in a race for second place.

No matter how much the small girls getting their pictures taken with her want to believe she will become America's first female president - and Sheryl Crow's Don't You Think it's Time We Put a Woman in the White House is playing loudly as encouragement - it seems a very long shot.

But Mr Trump is facing so many criminal trials it is impossible to predict whether he can maintain his current levels of support. If he were to drop out of the race for any reason, Ms Haley would look well placed to step up and accept her party's nomination.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67667168
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/eRQoM

 

[AnotherPleb]

The last thing the Uniparty Elite would want is to outright flout the rules by assassinating Trump - and nobody is going to believe it was some unhinged righty that did it - and declare a free for all. They like the rules, they are good at manipulating them to give a veneer of invincibility and demoralizing inevitability.

Here's the issue: there are a lot of unhinged Leftists that fully bought into the propaganda and the FBI has intentionally turned a blind eye to violence from the Left for decades now. The Uniparty's brains may know a dead Trump makes the house of cards collapse but the leftists don't.

 

[Snekposter]

The last thing the Uniparty Elite would want is to outright flout the rules by assassinating Trump - and nobody is going to believe it was some unhinged righty that did it - and declare a free for all. They like the rules, they are good at manipulating them to give a veneer of invincibility and demoralizing inevitability. They use the confining byzantine labyrinth of bureaucracy and law to anoint and protect them as the chosen elite, philospher god kings or whatever. Assassinating Trump would be a huge reminder to people that big celebrities like Trump or 'the Chosen elite God-Kings' are just mortal men that are easily snuffed by one of the 400+ million firearms floating around in the US. Then, suddenly, all the people the elites have fucked might say "Wait, I don't have to fight on their terms, I can just shoot the bastards?" The collapse would be slow, then fast, but certainly violent.

You really don't know these types. They were shocked, shocked, I say when some guy built a shotgun out of parts you can find at any Home Depot and blew away Shinzo Abe. They somehow unironically believe the plebs will never, ever do anything to them unless given some sort of marching orders. Its why they constantly talk about that stochastic terrorism bullshit since that's the only possible way they can frame our anger. And so until they wise up and admit that the plebs really do hate them and not just because Trump is telling us to hate them, they'll march us all right over the abyss.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

and likely impeach him a few more times.

I cannot wait.

Also, Zelensky assassinated/not allowed back to Ukraine soon? He can have Hunter's room!

 

[Gar For Archer]

You really don't know these types. They were shocked, shocked, I say when some guy built a shotgun out of parts you can find at any Home Depot and blew away Shinzo Abe. They somehow unironically believe the plebs will never, ever do anything to them unless given some sort of marching orders. It’s why they constantly talk about that stochastic terrorism bullshit since that's the only possible way they can frame our anger. And so until they wise up and admit that the plebs really do hate them and not just because Trump is telling us to hate them, they'll march us all right over the abyss.

I honestly think the whole “3D printed gun” scaremongering is a psy-op to distract the uninformed masses from the fact that literally all you need to craft a rudimentary firearm and the gunpowder to go in it is a trip to the hardware store. There’s a reason guns were invented 600 years ago, simple firearms (which are neither safe nor particularly accurate, but will still fuck you up from point blank) are basically just pipe bombs with one end open and you can craft a dozen or so with maybe $50 worth of material and basic hand tools.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I honestly think the whole “3D printed gun” scaremongering is a psy-op to distract the uninformed masses from the fact that literally all you need to craft a rudimentary firearm and the gunpowder to go in it is a trip to the hardware store. There’s a reason guns were invented 600 years ago, simple firearms (which are neither safe nor particularly accurate, but will still fuck you up from point blank) are basically just pipe bombs with one end open and you can craft a dozen or so with maybe $50 worth of material and basic hand tools.

two pieces of steel pipe, an endcap with a screw driven through it and a shotgun shell are all you need. shotgun shells are available to civilians in almost every country on earth

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

The last thing the Uniparty Elite would want is to outright flout the rules by assassinating Trump - and nobody is going to believe it was some unhinged righty that did it - and declare a free for all. They like the rules, they are good at manipulating them to give a veneer of invincibility and demoralizing inevitability. They use the confining byzantine labyrinth of bureaucracy and law to anoint and protect them as the chosen elite, philospher god kings or whatever. Assassinating Trump would be a huge reminder to people that big celebrities like Trump or 'the Chosen elite God-Kings' are just mortal men that are easily snuffed by one of the 400+ million firearms floating around in the US. Then, suddenly, all the people the elites have fucked might say "Wait, I don't have to fight on their terms, I can just shoot the bastards?" The collapse would be slow, then fast, but certainly violent.

I absolutely agree, killing Trump is opening Pandora's Box. If they do that, gloves are off and nobody is coming out unscathed.

BBC trying to build Nikki Haley as the future of the post-Trump Republican Party. Lol, lmao even.

Ah yes, a woman supporting the same exact policies that brought on someone like Trump is the new face of the GOP.

 

[ForTheHoard]

I honestly think the whole “3D printed gun” scaremongering is a psy-op to distract the uninformed masses from the fact that literally all you need to craft a rudimentary firearm and the gunpowder to go in it is a trip to the hardware store. There’s a reason guns were invented 600 years ago, simple firearms (which are neither safe nor particularly accurate, but will still fuck you up from point blank) are basically just pipe bombs with one end open and you can craft a dozen or so with maybe $50 worth of material and basic hand tools.

I think the point that politicians try to make is that a 4 year old can push "start" and 3d print a gun. If you are capable enough to learn how to mechanically calibrate an FDM printer and slice a 3d model on your own, you're also capable enough to mill out an 80% lower for an AR or a Glock.

 

[Sithis]

I think the point that politicians try to make is that a 4 year old can push "start" and 3d print a gun. If you are capable enough to learn how to mechanically calibrate an FDM printer and slice a 3d model on your own, you're also capable enough to mill out an 80% lower for an AR or a Glock.

Hell based on what I've seen of kids with iPads one could probably make a whole new gun design if you give em the right program. Imagine rolling up to the boog with an arsenal that looks like super soakers.

 

[Puff]

Hell based on what I've seen of kids with iPads one could probably make a whole new gun design if you give em the right program. Imagine rolling up to the boog with an arsenal that looks like super soakers.

I'm working with engineers who grew up on iPhones now... there were a few golden years where they actually knew how to do anything with computers natively. Now they need handholding to use excel.

 

[dustbuster]

presidential immunity is essential. the chief executive or monarch of every nation has historically had some form of immunity from prosecution while in office. from ancient times to the modern.

Caesar's civil war was started precisely because of the threat of prosecution.
Is trump Caesar? no of course not. he is more a Gracchi brother, an early spasm of populism. The American Caesar is out there somewhere. waiting.

remember that all democracies commit suicide.

SCOTUS has granted Smith cert in an unusual move.
We'll see if they're out to save the republic or kill it in a fit of TDS.

Edit: Correction
They're CONSIDERING cert still.
I have misread the filing I saw.
I do hope Trump asks them to accept cert.
The implications of granting Smith's wishes are so odious to the concept of an elected executive, I'm almost certain Smith is running into the complete decapitation of his entire treasonous endeavor.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

SCOTUS has granted Smith cert in an unusual move.
We'll see if they're out to save the republic or kill it in a fit of TDS.

Granting this is not a good sign.

They should have let it do the standard route and come to them in time and the fact they want to tackle it now bodes problems.

 

[dustbuster]

Granting this is not a good sign.

They should have let it do the standard route and come to them in time and the fact they want to tackle it now bodes problems.

The same court just a couple years ago ruled unanimously that Smith had acted unethically.

This circus has become an "inception" level recursive violation of civil rights at every level.
It's possible Thomas has finally swayed the center right establishmentarians on this.

We'll know soon enough, but a ruling in Smith's favor effectively places the executive in control of career DOJ bureaucrats rather than the elected president. They can puppet the white house with threats of post-term convictions.

 

[ChefKiss]

If Hillary didn't, what makes you think Biden will?

I don't think he will but if he does it'll be because of Hunter since he's such a complete nigger bitch retard who takes photos of himself doing crimes and has left paper and cum trails miles long, if there is ever any political will to genuinely go after them, which I doubt.

 

[Michael Wade]

I don't think it can be overstated just how monumentally that could and probably would backfire on them, and quite rapidly. It could very well be the next Franz Ferdinand moment. And not even because Trump would suddenly be avenged by a MAGA army, even though with chaos that severe it would be on the table - at that point the message is sent that such a thing is an option again. They can't or at least shouldn't risk that sort of thinking even becoming widespread among their own followers because then the radicals among their own party might decide they aren't going far enough.
Repeating a JFK in the modern age would be like setting fire to the house to kill a mouse. Sure, you might kill the mouse, but the mouse might also run out through a hole in the wall while you trip and die in the chaos.

If I were an elite I would see the writing on the wall, buy a house, retire and play videogames all day. They'll never do that shit because they are literally addicted to power like crack addicts.

Hell it's probably like the mob. Once you're in your literally not allowed to be out.

 

[ShitLurker]

I'm working with engineers who grew up on iPhones now... there were a few golden years where they actually knew how to do anything with computers natively. Now they need handholding to use excel.

This, you would be amazed how the "digital generation" is so much more inept with tech than your standard boomer but for different reasons. They can tap their screens like madmen and they can program with an IDE that does half the work for them competently enough, but anything that is out of the norm is an insurmountable barrier. Proper competence with computers is still the domain of turbo autists and yes, those autists are faster than ever thanks to all the extra tools speeding them up.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Arizona Governor Katie Hobbs demands $512M reimbursement from Biden in scathing letter accusing him of failure to secure southern border​

https://archive.li/QdtOh#comments

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12844867/Arizona-Katie-Hobbs-border-Lukeville-Biden.html

Here is the next one on the investigation block for FBI and DOJ lol

 

[teriyakiburns]

they can program with an IDE that does half the work for them competently enough

I have to disagree with this. IDEs are a useful tool, but they can't make you an even remotely competent developer. They do a lot less than people seem to believe.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Regardless, she did so much dirty shit when she was running, like when she used BleachBit to wipe her computer of everything and anything that could make her look bad when she was being investigated.

Don’t forget having Seth Rich murdered