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Hi Ruben!

I have been watching you since the Roblox Watch days, in fact I found out what a “furry” was when I was when NobleDragon got exposed on the Roblox forums and people were getting banned for saying your name.

I was wondering if you could also cover the exploitation of labor in the Roblox dev community in your videos, with a recent example being cbmaximillian, the creator of Frontlines.
 
I think there's a great opportunity to collaborate over the EPI issue on Roblox. The Operation Red Balloons thread was the final straw that made me decide I should publicly associate with the Farms
That's more then respectable, I'm glad you have the balls to just openly associate with the farms unlike a lot of other youtubers who either pretend they don't get their info from here/feel the need to constantly backtrack and apologise for their association.
 
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Hi @Ruben Sim! I love your work. The Anti-Furry Bill Gay OP is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen and if I'm feeling shitty I go and watch it to remind myself that at least I'm not a retarded furry.

Which subset of furries would you say produce the worst content on Roblox?
 
Most of the blacked fetishists are the same people that enjoy seeing women get fucked by dogs, horses and monsters. They see blacks as just another type of creature to satisfy their women-hating fantasies.
It's an Americanised version of a general "corruption" fetish, which has become a lot more common in recent years, its why there's been a rise in fetish content containing women in childish or young looking clothing, its taking something pure/normal and corrupting it to something perverse. People who take this fetish to an extreme will obviously target kids because they're the epitome of what society wants to keep pure in their eyes and the idea of ruining that is part of the fetish.
 
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If Josh were to invite you, would you do a MATI interview? I think there exists a lot of potential for a good discussion between you two about the state of the Internet, sexual deviants in online communities and most importantly about which autistic block game is better. (Answer is old school Roblox)
 
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I had to rebuild the database on neo4j for better performance. Currently up to 46,994 distinct members of confirmed ERP groups and related offshoots. Regardless of how you break this down in terms of EPI spreaders vs EPI victims, this is a fucking insane number. Hell, even if you made the incredibly generous assumption that 90% of the people in these groups are just adults, people like KF users or Ruben's fans who've come to take a peek at the freak show, or alt accounts of other users, that's still 4700 spreaders/victims.
Data collection continuing as I type this

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I had to rebuild the database on neo4j for better performance. Currently up to 46,994 distinct members of confirmed ERP groups and related offshoots. Regardless of how you break this down in terms of EPI spreaders vs EPI victims, this is a fucking insane number. Hell, even if you made the incredibly generous assumption that 90% of the people in these groups are just adults, people like KF users or Ruben's fans who've come to take a peek at the freak show, or alt accounts of other users, that's still 4700 spreaders/victims.
Data collection continuing as I type this

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lmao even
Also what the fuck that sented games group has been around since at least 2019 from the looks of it. Their group links to a Discord where a couple people were asking for "cons". Is this supposed to be some kind of dog whistle?
 
I signed up to Roblox in like 2009 and just recently after watching oneyplays play some bike obby thing I decided to sign back in and play it because it looked fun and it was. Literally after playing for just about 25 minutes I get a friend request from what appears to be some Roblox designer asking to use my avatar for some project, I go to the linked twitter account (that was on their profile) and this person allegedly has over 60k followers and has been posting said design stuff very infrequently for years. Curious, I added this person on a throwaway discord because he asked. He then sent me some skinless version of my avatar and asked me to go on some website to give him my skin. I figured this was some very sophisticated scam.

Idk if I was targeted because I probably have rare 2009 tix stuff or if little kids who spend like $10 on something they think are neat are frequent targets for this shit. Obviously the porn shit is way worse as it takes place entirely within Roblox and doesn't require you to go to weird third party websites parents should block but they seem to let even scammers go unpunished. Discord is even word banned so trying to refer me to discord makes them say deescord
 
I signed up to Roblox in like 2009 and just recently after watching oneyplays play some bike obby thing I decided to sign back in and play it because it looked fun and it was. Literally after playing for just about 25 minutes I get a friend request from what appears to be some Roblox designer asking to use my avatar for some project, I go to the linked twitter account (that was on their profile) and this person allegedly has over 60k followers and has been posting said design stuff very infrequently for years. Curious, I added this person on a throwaway discord because he asked. He then sent me some skinless version of my avatar and asked me to go on some website to give him my skin. I figured this was some very sophisticated scam.

Idk if I was targeted because I probably have rare 2009 tix stuff or if little kids who spend like $10 on something they think are neat are frequent targets for this shit. Obviously the porn shit is way worse as it takes place entirely within Roblox and doesn't require you to go to weird third party websites parents should block but they seem to let even scammers go unpunished. Discord is even word banned so trying to refer me to discord makes them say deescord
It is a scam, they'll probably ask you for a HAR file or something from developer console. This exact method is discussed in this video somewhere (https://youtu.be/bekN9bobfK8?t=1406)
Funny, I've never even played roblox but some of the meta around it is kinda funny.

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I signed up to Roblox in like 2009 and just recently after watching oneyplays play some bike obby thing I decided to sign back in and play it because it looked fun and it was. Literally after playing for just about 25 minutes I get a friend request from what appears to be some Roblox designer asking to use my avatar for some project, I go to the linked twitter account (that was on their profile) and this person allegedly has over 60k followers and has been posting said design stuff very infrequently for years. Curious, I added this person on a throwaway discord because he asked. He then sent me some skinless version of my avatar and asked me to go on some website to give him my skin. I figured this was some very sophisticated scam.

Idk if I was targeted because I probably have rare 2009 tix stuff or if little kids who spend like $10 on something they think are neat are frequent targets for this shit. Obviously the porn shit is way worse as it takes place entirely within Roblox and doesn't require you to go to weird third party websites parents should block but they seem to let even scammers go unpunished. Discord is even word banned so trying to refer me to discord makes them say deescord
Beaten to the punch already, but it's absolutely a scam. Roblox is absolutely rife with point A-point B social engineering scams where people with barely more tech knowledge than average take advantage of children and the otherwise tech-illiterate by gently prodding them into handing over their security credentials, especially over account ages and/or item value because perceived clout over those two factors matters that much to the playerbase. Scams ranging from those to email reset and cookie log attempts have been made on my youngest account over the span of a couple years just because of a bunch of hats I own.
 
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Another update. This is a view of the EPI network as it currently stands. 69305 nodes, 125935 connections between nodes. I've colored it with modularity community detection and clustered it loosely so that you can get a clear view of all the segmentation of users between their respective groups. A connection on this graph is defined here as one user being on another user's friends list, or a user being a member of a group.
Brown (16.28%) - feminization and raceplay groups
Purple (10.96%) - fart fetish groups, also furry-related
Teal (8.15%) - groups that sell clothing that's meant to be skimpy or basically just non-clothes so your avatar can be nude
Blue (6.55%) - more feminization and raceplay
Green (6.13%) - all feminization
Orange (5.85%) - all clustered around one big group with no description or store items. Members list seems to indicate it's another raceplay group
Magenta (5.36%) - all clustered around a different big group. Can you guess what it's about? That's right, it's about raceplay
Dark green and off to the left (5.25%) - himbo groups for gay bear enjoyers
The non-colored nodes are generally also members of some disgusting fetish group or other, but they get smaller from here and this covers most of the network. When you see the little gray clumps, those tend to be groups that split off from other, larger groups.

An interesting takeaway I find from this data, which doesn't really come as a surprise but a confirmation, is that these nodes are all pretty strongly linked to one another, and there isn't a clear boundary between any two types of degenerate behavior. For example, if you started in the dark green cluster on the left, which generally seems to be for gay males, you can easily trace a path to any other fetish content, despite the fact that the graph's content is straight content for the most part. In fact, the diameter of this network as it currently stands is 10, meaning that if you pick any random point in the network, you're no more than 10 steps away from any other point in the network. I'm making an assumption here, but it seems to me that this confirms the idea that the focus of these groups is more about intentionally corrupting what should be innocent, and that the fetish content is a means to do that but not the primary focus.

I'm a little confused as to why raceplay and feminization seem to be such core themes here. I mean, it's content for degenerate porn addicts, sure, but why raceplay and feminization specifically? And furthermore it strikes me as strange too that all of the content that I've seen so far, outside of the clothing groups which offer pretty generic nude/skimpy customization options, doesn't seem to feature normal sexuality at all. I mean, it's EPI groups on a children's game so none of the content is going to be normal sexuality, but what I mean is that it's odd to me that there's nothing that's just regular sex between two people without any kind of fetish element.

After I contacted Ruben one of the things he advised me to do was to focus on groups rather than individuals. This definitely seems to be the right direction and I'm thankful for his advice about this. Here's another view of the network with all of the group nodes removed, so only user nodes remain.
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In this view, you can see that there's still a closely connected core community of users, but that without the groups as a structure for the EPI network, the connections between the majority of the nodes are severed. If Roblox were to completely ignore the users participating in this network and only focus on banning or shadowbanning the offending groups, that wouldn't solve the problem, but it'd severely hamper the EPI peoples' efforts for a minimal amount of work.
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Take a look at this bean-shaped cluster in the first and second images of the network. In the first view of the network, it's relatively easy to reach from any other point in the network; head towards the center from wherever you are, then head out to this cluster. In the second view though, this cluster is entirely disconnected from all other nodes. Without the one group present that linked all of these nodes, it seems that this entire group of users wouldn't have been exposed to the raceplay content.

Anyway, pornographers should be put in jail and China is right about severely restricting childrens' access to the internet. That's all for now.
 
Another update. This is a view of the EPI network as it currently stands. 69305 nodes, 125935 connections between nodes. I've colored it with modularity community detection and clustered it loosely so that you can get a clear view of all the segmentation of users between their respective groups. A connection on this graph is defined here as one user being on another user's friends list, or a user being a member of a group.
Brown (16.28%) - feminization and raceplay groups
Purple (10.96%) - fart fetish groups, also furry-related
Teal (8.15%) - groups that sell clothing that's meant to be skimpy or basically just non-clothes so your avatar can be nude
Blue (6.55%) - more feminization and raceplay
Green (6.13%) - all feminization
Orange (5.85%) - all clustered around one big group with no description or store items. Members list seems to indicate it's another raceplay group
Magenta (5.36%) - all clustered around a different big group. Can you guess what it's about? That's right, it's about raceplay
Dark green and off to the left (5.25%) - himbo groups for gay bear enjoyers
How big would the furry and fart-fetish groups be if they were just their own categories? The bulk seem to be feminization and raceplay related.
 
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