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[DavidS877]

Why not both i am all for polygamy

What's the penalty for bigamy?
Having two wives.

 

[CoolFool]

Alright guys, in order to not derail another thread on KF, I'm moving the topic over here. What do you think about women asking men out? Outside of asking out literal autists (Who can't pick up social cue), I don't think this is a good idea and women should not do this. Clearly, based on the negative stickers I received, this is a controversial subject. So, why not discuss it here

Probably not but it's like mentioning Squidbillies or Trailer Park Boys in public. You're bound to turn some heads and you'll either be seen as white trash or someone interesting who happens to be white trash.

Squidbillies was an underrated show and it sucks more people don't know about it or don't give it a chance because of the bad art.

 

[DavidS877]

Alright guys, in order to not derail another thread on KF, I'm moving the topic over here. What do you think about women asking men out? Outside of asking out literal autists (Who can't pick up social cue), I don't think this is a good idea and women should not do this. Clearly, based on the negative stickers I received, this is a controversial subject. So, why not discuss it here

The only time women ask men out is when they want something. And I don't mean romance or sex.

 

[Shidoen]

Alright guys, in order to not derail another thread on KF, I'm moving the topic over here. What do you think about women asking men out? Outside of asking out literal autists (Who can't pick up social cue), I don't think this is a good idea and women should not do this. Clearly, based on the negative stickers I received, this is a controversial subject. So, why not discuss it here

Squidbillies was an underrated show and it sucks more people don't know about it or don't give it a chance because of the bad art.

On the asking out part, as a freshman in highschool I was shy and easily bullied but my first girlfriend asked me out and we had a good relationship for two years. I learned a lot and I've asked women out, been asked out, had good dates, and been rejected. You just gotta take the chance and stick your head out there even if you get it slammed against a wall. I will say guys should be the ones asking women out just so they get the confidence and experience.

On Squidbillies I have made it a tradition on the 3rd date to watch some of my fav shows because women need to understand how something ugly can be beautiful which is why they should get used to being around me. Also a lot of black women don't know about that show so it's easy to introduce them.

 

[dick brain]

Polo shirts or just regular button up shirts look good on just about every guy.

Be aware that wearing a polo shirt will likely signal to other men that you're prepared tongue kiss your boss's ass to get a managerial position and you'll be treated accordingly.

Alright guys, in order to not derail another thread on KF, I'm moving the topic over here. What do you think about women asking men out?

Love it. Instant respect. The best relationships of my life have started that way. Life is too short and I have too much to do to waste time with mind games and social conventions; if you want something, go after it. Maybe it's different when you're fucking around, but when I'm looking for a god damn life partner, I want someone brave, communicative and forthcoming, any of which is exemplified by asking me out. I want a teammate, not a sparring partner.

 

[CoolFool]

You just gotta take the chance and stick your head out there even if you get it slammed against a wall. I will say guys should be the ones asking women out just so they get the confidence and experience.

I wish you could convince some kiwis here who legit said they don't ask women out because they unironically believe they're going to get MeToo'd.

Love it. Instant respect. The best relationships of my life have started that way. Life is too short and I have too much to do to waste time with mind games and social conventions; if you want something, go after it. Maybe it's different when you're fucking around, but when I'm looking for a god damn life partner, I want someone brave, communicative and forthcoming, any of which is exemplified by asking me out. I want a teammate, not a sparring partner.

Lots of guys will agree to go out with a gal even if they have zero interest in her, which isn't good for women who are trying to find an interested and committed long term partner. That isn't to say that a guy asking a girl out guarantees he's a nice guy and committed, but you at least know the guy is actually interested in you and that he was able to be brave and ask, which is something women like. The only relationships I see that work out long term when the woman asks first is with actual autistic men.

 

[dick brain]

I wish you could convince some kiwis here who legit said they don't ask women out because they unironically believe they're going to get MeToo'd.

Lots of guys will agree to go out with a gal even if they have zero interest in her, which isn't good for women who are trying to find an interested and committed long term partner. That isn't to say that a guy asking a girl out guarantees he's a nice guy and committed, but you at least know the guy is actually interested in you and that he was able to be brave and ask, which is something women like. The only relationships I see that work out long term when the woman asks first is with actual autistic men.

Why do people in this thread keep treating a date like a marriage proposal? The whole point of a date is to figure out if you're right for each other, and then decide if you want to pursue a relationship. There's nothing wrong with asking someone out before you know if they're a good partner, that's what the date is for.

Am I the retard here?

 

[Shidoen]

I wish you could convince some kiwis here who legit said they don't ask women out because they unironically believe they're going to get MeToo'd.

Lots of guys will agree to go out with a gal even if they have zero interest in her, which isn't good for women who are trying to find an interested and committed long term partner. That isn't to say that a guy asking a girl out guarantees he's a nice guy and committed, but you at least know the guy is actually interested in you and that he was able to be brave and ask, which is something women like. The only relationships I see that work out long term when the woman asks first is with actual autistic men.

Ain't my job, some of the more terminally online ones just gotta get real and just keep a cool head. On the MeToo stuff all I can say is don't do anything stupid and keep your hands to yourself until the time is right.

Why do people in this thread keep treating a date like a marriage proposal? The whole point of a date is to figure out if you're right for each other, and then decide if you want to pursue a relationship. There's nothing wrong with asking someone out before you know if they're a good partner, that's what the date is for.

Am I the retard here?

People are too online and let their fantasies of the ideal person run wild. Kiwi farms really isn't the best place to find out about a major demographic since we're mostly online too.

 

[CoolFool]

Why do people in this thread keep treating a date like a marriage proposal? The whole point of a date is to figure out if you're right for each other, and then decide if you want to pursue a relationship. There's nothing wrong with asking someone out before you know if they're a good partner, that's what the date is for.

Am I the retard here?

Even before the first date, women are vetting men. This is true whether they are seeking a fling or a long term partner. I don't expect a lot of guys to get this because it's different for them. For women this is something we can't even control, it's something we do automatically, much like how a guy instantly looks at a woman and decides if she's hot or not. Women vet for safety reasons as well as compatibility reasons. Even for a one night stand, since women are more emotional than guys, they prefer to sleep with a guy that they at least sorta emotionally connect with. That isn't the same for guys, obviously not ALL men are like this, but a lot of guys don't give a shit if they connect with a woman or not, if that woman is DTF then they'll happily agree to it.

All this to say, most women want a guy to ask first, it has nothing to do with playing mind games or treating dating like a marriage proposal, it's just what women like. They like knowing the guy is at least interested enough to ask, and women like knowing the guy is brave enough to actually go through with it.

Some guys seem to not find this fair and try to give reasons why it shouldn't be this way... but IMO this is pointless to get upset about, and even more pointless to fight against it. What most of these guys are really upset about is the possibility of rejection. This doesn't necessarily apply to guys with autism tho, like I said elsewhere, lacking the ability to understand social cues really does make dating hard and requires a different approach.

 

[DavidS877]

Even before the first date, women are vetting men.

Dating is just a job interview that never ends. One wrong move and BAM, you're fired.
At least every time I get a new job I get more money and new challenges to solve.

 

[mintjulep]

Alright guys, in order to not derail another thread on KF, I'm moving the topic over here. What do you think about women asking men out? Outside of asking out literal autists (Who can't pick up social cue), I don't think this is a good idea and women should not do this. Clearly, based on the negative stickers I received, this is a controversial subject. So, why not discuss it here

Squidbillies was an underrated show and it sucks more people don't know about it or don't give it a chance because of the bad art.

This will only work for a specific kind of man. Most men would always feel subconsciously turned off by a woman taking the lead. And with her expressing interest, they’ll subconsciously always think they’re a catch, can do better, and may leave her at any time to their benefit. However, there are very boyish kind of men who find that sort of thing charming. Like El DeBarge who’s always giggling and saying in his soft voice how he likes “naughty” women

 

[mintjulep]

Why do people in this thread keep treating a date like a marriage proposal? The whole point of a date is to figure out if you're right for each other, and then decide if you want to pursue a relationship. There's nothing wrong with asking someone out before you know if they're a good partner, that's what the date is for.

Am I the retard here?

The point of dating in the long run is marriage. Anything else is childish and a waste of time.

 

[dick brain]

Even before the first date, women are vetting men. This is true whether they are seeking a fling or a long term partner. I don't expect a lot of guys to get this because it's different for them. For women this is something we can't even control, it's something we do automatically, much like how a guy instantly looks at a woman and decides if she's hot or not. Women vet for safety reasons as well as compatibility reasons. Even for a one night stand, since women are more emotional than guys, they prefer to sleep with a guy that they at least sorta emotionally connect with. That isn't the same for guys, obviously not ALL men are like this, but a lot of guys don't give a shit if they connect with a woman or not, if that woman is DTF then they'll happily agree to it.

All this to say, most women want a guy to ask first, it has nothing to do with playing mind games or treating dating like a marriage proposal, it's just what women like. They like knowing the guy is at least interested enough to ask, and women like knowing the guy is brave enough to actually go through with it.

Some guys seem to not find this fair and try to give reasons why it shouldn't be this way... but IMO this is pointless to get upset about, and even more pointless to fight against it. What most of these guys are really upset about is the possibility of rejection. This doesn't necessarily apply to guys with autism tho, like I said elsewhere, lacking the ability to understand social cues really does make dating hard and requires a different approach.

I don't think it's unfair, I just think it's stupid. Choosing not to pursue something you're interested in, when there's literally nothing at stake, is a bad character trait regardless of sex. It's a bad character trait in a man, it's a bad character trait in a woman. It's a disservice to yourself.

The point of dating in the long run is marriage. Anything else is childish and a waste of time.

Yes. That's why you date someone. To figure out if you want to marry them. Dating is the period where you get to know someone and decide if you want to commit to them. That's why it's retarded to think you need to get to know someone before you ask them on a date, or view it as a commitment.

 

[Etched]

What do you think about women asking men out?

I don't really understand why it has to be a gendered issue. I think plenty of women and men alike have lost out on good relationships because they're too scared/timid/self sabotaging/whatever to ask out the person they like. Doesn't matter what's between your legs; if you want something, take some initiative and try to get it.

Lots of guys will agree to go out with a gal even if they have zero interest in her, which isn't good for women who are trying to find an interested and committed long term partner. That isn't to say that a guy asking a girl out guarantees he's a nice guy and committed, but you at least know the guy is actually interested in you and that he was able to be brave and ask, which is something women like.

Lots of women will agree to go out with a guy even if they have zero interest in him, which isn't good for men who are trying to find an interested and committed long term partner. After all, there are few easier ways to get some free lunch and attention than using some guy for it.

While I understand that women like it when men ask them out because it removes the ambiguity of whether or not the man is interested in them, it seems more like a status quo that women would like to be upheld because it benefits women over men, and allows them to shift the possibility of rejection onto men. Anything else is mostly a cope. Being afraid of rejection is a pretty unisex trait, but as long as the norm is men asking women out, women don't have to deal with the possibility of being rejected, and so of course they're going prefer it.

Most men would always feel subconsciously turned off by a woman taking the lead.

I have a feeling most men would be turned on by it because the average man does not get much positive attention from women in the first place. This is the same reason why some men will suddenly think a women is interested in them because she gave him a compliment or some such.

And with her expressing interest, they’ll subconsciously always think they’re a catch, can do better, and may leave her at any time to their benefit.

The exact same thing is applicable to women who get asked out by men.

 

[AgendaPoster]

What posts should I make in this thread so it becomes less boring?
Attentively taking gender-flavored suggestions!
Ladies?

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

What posts should I make in this thread so it becomes less boring?
Attentively taking gender-flavored suggestions!
Ladies?

Tell us about yourself. The doctor is in.

 

[ShiftyBoi]

Tell us about yourself. The doctor is in.
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You know actually, this picture made me think of a question. Are there any fictional relationships that ladies think are the ideal? Or fictional character that are their dream men? This isn't so much for help but I think it could be fun sharing.

 

[☻]

Is it unrealistic to seek an intellectually stimulating connection with a woman, as some men suggest?

I've had close friends that clicked well with me share their interest in a relationship with me, but I wasn't ready at the time. I've noticed that finding such a connection appears rare, despite exploring various avenues, including dating sites and interacting with women from a variety of backgrounds.

I wonder if it's more about chance than a shift in environment. I'd appreciate a woman's perspective on finding a partner who enjoys discussing significant topics, self-reflection, and just those little realizations in daily life.

The issue is me, but I don't see what I'm doing wrong. I've been told that I overvalue sincerity. I've also annoyed some women with my fixation on topics. For example, discussing different covid mask types and the affects a new accessory had on self expression. I think stuff like that sets off red flags, but I don't want to compromise on who I am. Any insights or advice would be appreciated.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Why do people in this thread keep treating a date like a marriage proposal? The whole point of a date is to figure out if you're right for each other, and then decide if you want to pursue a relationship. There's nothing wrong with asking someone out before you know if they're a good partner, that's what the date is for.

Am I the retard here?

Its not a marriage proposal, its closer to a job application. So its extremely awkward and a bummer if you dont pass the interview so people end up not trying, especially given that its optional unlike a real job you tend to get a lot more hurt emotionally in the process and are a lot more likely to avoid it. Ive heard so many people say that as a guy you should never have damaged self esteem, you should have a fluid self esteem and you should never let yourself be damaged by anything. Easier said than done.

Theres also the interesting thing which Ive been observing about relationships, the up and down cycle. Generally people who isolate themselves from relationships, be it romantic or friendly with whoever, theyre never happy but theyre never sad as well. You may be dead inside and at 0 but you never experience loss or regret or anything negative. Whereas if youre pursuing relationships, even if you get some you are always bound to lose it or at risk of losing it. So the positive experiences gained will eventually lead to negative experiences from loss. Its a good thought experiment to think if youd rather have a plus and a minus or be at 0. Its also pretty anxiety inducing especially for people traumatized from loss to even carry the slightest risks of losing someone, dead or otherwise. Thats one person who is oblivious to your existence, who doesnt want to talk to you, who never wants to see you again and you made them leave, you made them perceive you that way and youre the villain in their story despite your ultimately good intentions, it only took one mistake. There is only a finite amount of good people on earth and nobody who is good at heart wants to be even remotely villainous in somebody elses story. So its sort of good that you keep the amount of people who treat you as persona non grata at a minimum, especially people who you love respect are friendly with or whatever.

You know actually, this picture made me think of a question. Are there any fictional relationships that ladies think are the ideal? Or fictional character that are their dream men? This isn't so much for help but I think it could be fun sharing.

I want to know this, I want to stop the ladyboner hunk examples and get some aspirational male characters.

 

[Johnny Salami]

What do you think about women asking men out? Outside of asking out literal autists (Who can't pick up social cue), I don't think this is a good idea and women should not do this.

Its funny that I had a coworker who used to bitch about men asking her out at the bar or mall or anywhere social. Now she compliants nobody asks her out (she had turned 35 when this happened and had gained a few pounds).

I called her out on this and she got defensive and was playing mental gymnastics how its not the same. When I asked her to ask guys out she became even more aggravated and said that's not how any of it works. Last I heard she's now 38 and still single. Couldn't happen to a nicer lady

The only time women ask men out is when they want something. And I don't mean romance or sex.

Besides one time, everytime a girl has asked me out she's been fat. Like not even chubby but stupid-wide like a door. One thing I had to figure out as an autist is that women like to be asked out.

On the MeToo stuff all I can say is don't do anything stupid and keep your hands to yourself until the time is riright.

I think it doesn't help that Red Pill youtubers essentially always tell men that it will happen. Those channels seem to want other men to be as miserable as them

The point of dating in the long run is marriage. Anything else is childish and a waste of time.

This is true. But many guys will continue dating a girl even is she hit red flags until they find her replacement

All this to say, most women want a guy to ask first, it has nothing to do with playing mind games or treating dating like a marriage proposal, it's just what women like.

I had a lesbian friend who hated how she never got asked out by girls. When I sort of pointed out how in straight relationships men do the chasing she sort of realize she had to be one to ask them out (this was right before the troon shit started). I sort of had to be her wingman to help her and that shit caused her social anxiety. Women liked to be asked out, even if they're only interesting in other women