Total Retard War: Lessons of War - Taking the tactics of Honeycomb.io's Field CTO Liz Fong-Jones and making them available to everyone.

[dvnc]

What's needed:
- Strong writers.
- Archivers.
- Tech literates.
- SMM experts/knowledge.
- Those willing and able to donate.
- Users with Campaign Building knowledge.

What we have:
- One person with direct access to Josh to maintain the Project. (CrunkLord)

Go from there.

 

[Null]

Are any companies above Cogent? Who do they rely on? Does Dave Schaeffer have a boss? We should do what the trannies do. Skip the middle man and go up the chain. Make trouble for the bosses bosses boss.

TIER 1. PLATZ EINS. That's the top. Schaeffer is a CEO, so no (not counting the feds). The only person who owns more of Cogent than him is Vanguard Investments. There is literally no one above this guy. At T1 there's only "peers".

The only way for Cogent to suffer is if they were to lose customers. That's why it's sad to see Rumble supporting them.

 

[DunwichSkeleton]

Vanguard having the largest shares in a given company doesn't mean much since their business is mutual funds. With mutual funds, individuals can buy shares through Vanguard and Vanguard manages the larger pool of money. The money Vanguard has isn't necessarily the company's since the individuals earn interest & can cash those shares out.
The flipside is that if someone realizes they have Honeycomb or Cogent shares, it gives them more leverage to complain with. My mom was once able to successfully complain to Verizon by using "as a shareholder...". Cogent is a part of the S&P 600 index fund, if anyone has that or wants to buy a share just to lodge a complaint.

My line of thinking is if they are one of the largest shareholders and they complain about the KiwiFarms being nasty and threaten to pull their investments if we are not deplatformed, does that not give them a fair bit of leverage or is this just a retarded line of thinking? Unless I'm mistaken vanguard having a 10% equity share means they are on the board for cogent does it not?

 

[Piggle Rick]

That's why I mentioned web 2.0's, wordpress.com and others.

They can be set up with a burner email rather easily.

I’m up for that too, specifically one about the rapist Elliot.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

I'm of the mind the Honeycomb serves as a front for an espionage software ala Palantir. Most of their focus has been on LLM which are language models used by generative AI and powering say automated moderation tools. Considering the founders and the current events going on right now, they clearly are pro-authoritarian Leftist that want to bring about the death of privacy and personal freedom. I personally think a cataloging of all the good the farms has done would be fantastic.

 

[DavidS877]

My line of thinking is if they are one of the largest shareholders and they complain about the KiwiFarms being nasty and threaten to pull their investments if we are not deplatformed, does that not give them a fair bit of leverage or is this just a retarded line of thinking? Unless I'm mistaken vanguard having a 10% equity share means they are on the board for cogent does it not?

As a publicly traded company, that's all public.

https://www.cogentco.com/en/about-cogent/investor-relations/governance/188-governance-tabs/55-board-of-directors

Too long, didn't check if any were affiliated with Vanguard.

 

[Piggle Rick]

TIER 1. PLATZ EINS. That's the top. Schaeffer is a CEO, so no (not counting the feds). The only person who owns more of Cogent than him is Vanguard Investments. There is literally no one above this guy. At T1 there's only "peers".

The only way for Cogent to suffer is if they were to lose customers. That's why it's sad to see Rumble supporting them.

As an ironic coincidence, when I clicked on your Platz Eins link, I got an ad for “Josh Cellars”, and at least that’s funny

 

[themarchivist2]

I wonder if we could run a guerilla PR campaign of sorts by encouraging or commissioning commentary/"drama explainer" channels on Youtube and TikTok to cover stories where we were undeniably in the right. Probably with an explicit focus on the cases where people here have supported troons, since that's the media's main method of attack right now.

 

[Sir Joahim Browinson III]

Hey, Null. Considering that Kiwifarms might not last in the forceable future, do you think you could write a book about your exploits as and ooperator of the most hated site on the net after it's all done an over?
I think it would make a verry interesting read.

 

[Treasure Champs]

TIER 1. PLATZ EINS. That's the top. Schaeffer is a CEO, so no (not counting the feds). The only person who owns more of Cogent than him is Vanguard Investments. There is literally no one above this guy. At T1 there's only "peers".

The only way for Cogent to suffer is if they were to lose customers. That's why it's sad to see Rumble supporting them.

Sorry, remind me again, what are we hosting that is making Dave Schaeffer mad? Having spent a little bit of time today looking at Cogent... the guy is literally a billionaire CEO of a multi-billion dollar company. He was personally sued for harassment and racism and just paid the guy to go away. If actual proven racism does nothing to him, 'violated net neutrality to get one, very vilified site off the net' is not going to do dick. Are we one step away from uncovering a video of him sucking Dong Long Gone's dick? Why does he even care about this tiny, minnowy site?

 

[Mr. Brown]

I’m up for that too, specifically one about the rapist Elliot.

Crack on dude, I'm building mine out right now.

 

[themarchivist2]

Sorry, remind me again, what are we hosting that is making Dave Schaeffer mad? Having spent a little bit of time today looking at Cogent... the guy is literally a billionaire CEO of a multi-billion dollar company. He was personally sued for harassment and racism and just paid the guy to go away. If actual proven racism does nothing to him, 'violated net neutrality to get one, very vilified site off the net' is not going to do dick. Are we one step away from uncovering a video of him sucking Dong Long Gone's dick? Why does he even care about this tiny, minnowy site?

It's all PR. I don't think anyone who's dropped us has actually done so out of feelings of moral obligation, they've done so because people convinced them that there was enough of a public outcry to threaten their business, then eventually that lead to biased media coverage which turned said outcry into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

In order to secure our place on the internet, we either have to make it so it's no longer bad PR for a provider to host the site, we have to make it so it's worse PR to drop the site, we have to legally force someone to host us, or some combination of the three. The problem is that some of the most powerful and deluded people in the entire tech industry have vested interest in making sure that doesn't happen.

In order to save Kiwi Farms, we really do either have to turn public opinion in favor of us, or turn public opinion so far against the people trying to shut us down that we look better by comparison.

 

[King George III]

Did the cogentniggers block the Telegram archive? Haven't been able to access it today.

 

[Treasure Champs]

It's all PR. I don't think anyone who's dropped us has actually done so out of feelings of moral obligation, they've done so because people convinced them that there was enough of a public outcry to threaten their business, then eventually that lead to biased media coverage which turned said outcry into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

No-one who has gone after the farms has done it out of any morality, either. The ebil doxxers narrative has always been a smokescreen for someone who has a personal reason to see information about them, or some past activity, scrubbed from the web. Dong's consent accident. Whatever embarrassing shit Keffals did, take your pic. Russell Greer was butthurt that we called him a drooling faced retard. So what's Dave Schaeffer's deal? A friend, a family member, is one of his execs a troon with something to hide?

 

[Null]

Sorry, remind me again, what are we hosting that is making Dave Schaeffer mad?

I will never know because they've never actually sent me an email.

 

[Anti Snigger]

If No Dong Jones didn't want to be hammered for rape, then he shouldn't have raped someone in the first place.

Yikes, the transphobia on display here is an ick

 

[Hokuriku]

I am open to ideas as to how we protest this obstruction of our rights.

In the words of Alec Benson Leary - "I suggest fire."

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

Hey, Null. Considering that Kiwifarms might not last in the forceable future, do you think you could write a book about your exploits as and ooperator of the most hated site on the net after it's all done an over?
I think it would make a verry interesting read.

That's probably the gayest shit I've read all day. But I have to say I would love to purchase a beautiful hardcover tome telling the tale of the 𝕿𝖔𝖙𝖆𝖑 𝕽𝖊𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖉 𝖂𝖆𝖗, with the title in genuine sterling silver and all, in the mid-term future when kiwifarms.net along with kiwifarms.sneed and kiwifarms.edu are thriving and prospering more in the face of clownworld than ever.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

how does one pronounce Cogent?
kah-jent?
kou-gent (hard g)?

 

[LiquidCancer]

I never even realized Liz Fong Jones was a paedophile. I knew he raped someone but I'm glad he is being honest about everything now.