Canada is a failed state

[wry wrangler]

In all fairness, I know 3 natives at work (it's a large industrial workplace) and they're all normal, well-adjusted people. Then again, they're the ones who integrated into society, and the ones who integrate would be normal, well-adjusted people. Not far from me there's Vancouver's Downtown Eastside which is littered with drug-addicted habitual criminal type natives the police have long ago stopped bothering to arrest.

 

[Ser Prize]

I can confirm. Edmonton is a lost cause and Calgary is getting there because city council is full of tax-and-spend leftists. Even my old hometown of Lethbridge has earned the inglorious moniker of "Methbridge" because of the drug addicts. Something that has been mentioned in this tread is that crime in smaller cities like Prince Albert in Saskatchewan and Thompson in Manitoba is much higher than the major urban centers. Lethbridge is in the "top" 15 in the crime severity index, topped only Wetaksiwin.

The Natives commit crime on an industrial scale. Especially out west. The RCMP avoid dealing with it, because they don't want to battle the entire res to deal with a stolen car, and the res rats can just scream racism everytime someone holds them to account.

I might be moving from Creston BC to Pincher Creek AB and that's one of my biggest worries. I hear PC natives are a lot more uppity and violent.

 

[wry wrangler]

I might be moving from Creston BC to Pincher Creek AB and that's one of my biggest worries. I hear PC natives are a lot more uppity and violent.

This might be a little off-topic but are those polygamist Mormons still out there by you?

 

[Ser Prize]

This might be a little off-topic but are those polygamist Mormons still out there by you?

Yeah, they live in an unofficial town called Bountiful. Why do you ask?

Why yes I have debated trying to join in some of my worst moments.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

I think we are way past voting our way out of this. No political solution this time. Left or right. And violence? REAL VIOLENCE. No chance. Whats the biggest army in the world? The Chinese army with 2 mln soldiers? No, its the American gunowners. Registered, over 6 mlns. And what did they do on January the 6th? Nothing, just a boomer snoozefest... porn and soy is a helluva a drug.

Canadians tended to be Pollyannas who operated under the delusion that the government and Canadian institutions such as unions care about the public and work for the common good. However, many Leafs (including myself and many others on this board) are getting black-pilled because for the situation grows more dire for all of the public spending these past few years. Anyone with eyes to see knows how bad the housing situation is along with food and energy prices that are driving quality of life into the ground. Healthcare is in equally bad straights. Canada spends almost more on it per capita than any other country in the developed world, but we don't rank in the top ten when it comes to quality and choice. When it comes to innovation, Canada ranks and embarrassing 25th overall. Yet the Laurentian dipshits and their choir of barking seals act as if we're number one because we're not like those savages in United States.

I like what both Poilievre and Bernier have to say, but I have little confidence that either can do much. Poilievre will ignore a certain elephant in the room (mass immigration) while the People's Party of Canada is Bernier's little personality cult that I feel has little substance. Will there be violence at some point? Probably. Everyone one has their breaking point. We have taught that this country was the greatest for generations and that one could succeed with hard work and determination, but that promise remains unfulfilled and will never be. The powers that be will continue to fleece and exploit both "new" Canadians and old while they live lives of unsurpassed luxury, which is why I advocate for renaming the capital, Pyongyang-on-the-Ottawa.

What differentiates Canada from North Korea is that the military is severely underfunded and demoralized compared to the Hermit Kingdom. Our equipment is antiquated and munition stocks are critically low while the Liberals lavish Zelenskyy with money to buy himself a yacht that would make a Russian oligarch blush. Why fight for a government that actively disdains you and would rather see you MAiD than fund your treatment for PTSD? I imagine most many would desert or join in. Our police forces are just as inept from decades of political correctness with the RCMP being the poster child.

What many Canadians fail to realize is that a collapse doesn't always happen instantly, many times it is very much death by a thousand cuts over and extended period. There were signs of decline in the Soviet Union decades before its implosion and it was through sheer force of will from Tito that Yugoslavia lasted as long at it did. Canada has no real glue to bind it together aside from flowery platitudes and Justin Trudeau spent much of the last three years pitting Canadians against each other that there is no point in even holding up the charade anymore.

 

[Audit]

To any Canucks thinking of moving stateside, I'll tell you straight off to avoid Texas, Montana, or Wyoming. If you want rural woodlands, Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Michigan are solid options. Steer clear of most of New England or the Pacific coast if you can't afford the cost of living/real estate. The Southeast isn't bad if you want warmer temps but stay away from the extremely rural places. It gets rough fast in some parts. Medium sized cities can be good in the South, but it really varies wildly whether or not you'll end up in a suburban sprawl hellscape or a well-to-do city.

There's plenty of good jobs in the US if you've got the skills but the immigration system is rough. Far too many pajeets backlogging the system even here, and then you have the rest of the world trying to break in (what is border security???). Not sure I'd suggest coming to the US if you're already at the bottom of the Canadian totem pole. The faces of meth dot the countryside of the US, and you'd be hard pressed to avoid ending up with their fate. To anyone with the bare minimum of trade skill, desirable STEM education, or entrepreneurial experience, the US is a great place to be. Just don't expect it to waltz up and suck your cock for being born there or moving in. That treatment is reserved for parasitic welfare leeches (i.e. urban negros).

 

[wry wrangler]

Yeah, they live in an unofficial town called Bountiful. Why do you ask?

Why yes I have debated trying to join in some of my worst moments.

I dunno, I just sort of figured they'd have collapsed after their leaders went to prison for raping little girls and such.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

for all of the public spending these past few years

People are retarded, see the above. Just because you spend money, just because you invest in something, doesn't mean its a good idea.

There's a cognitive dissonance within Canadians (and Californians, and liberals in general) where they think you can fix problems by just throwing money at the problem. That is rarely the case.

Anyone with eyes to see knows how bad the housing situation is along with food and energy prices that are driving quality of life into the ground

Something someone pointed out was that for the current rate of immigration, we would need 170,000+ new houses every year, which is (lol, not happening)

The powers that be will continue to fleece and exploit both "new" Canadians and old while they live lives of unsurpassed luxury

This is the part that just gets to me to be honest. Its why I hate the laptop class, the shit libs, "singapore", or the managerial class. If you've ever read Jurassic park (amazing book) its full of relatable quotes for the situation.

“Scientists are actually preoccupied with accomplishment. So they are focused on whether they can do something. They never stop to ask if they should do something.”

Its the same thing with the managerial class. They're dumb, astoundingly so. With all their fancy degrees, lattes, cafes, etc- theyre dumb. They think they're smart, but they literally cant see the shit on the tip of their toe.

I'll touch on Conestoga college, because its a big scandal in Ontario. Ontario sees that there are going to be employment shortcomings because all the boomers are about to retire? Thats a problem we can solve! We'll just import 30,000 migrants to fill in the gaps at a single college. 500,000 a year overall throughout the country!

These people seem incapable of seeing the cause and effect thats going to be obvious, how this will affect everyone else in a community, the chaos it is bound to cause. Thats at best, at worst, you also have to add in that these colleges are basically in bed with half the businesses, we have business cartels running the country (or Laurentian oligarchs, take your pick), and these colleges get their own cut with tuition fees.

Brilliant author, seriously

There were signs of decline in the Soviet Union decades

I feel like we're really in this point already, and we have the same type of people in charge, with the same sycophants cheering them on because they think it makes them good citizens. Most of us here have already checked out of patriotism towards the regime. My best hope is that, for Canada at least, the system collapses fast, and relatively cleanly. I think we unironically need a new start.

 

[wry wrangler]

I've read that many employers are actually blacklisting Conestoga College graduates, because so many of the school's graduates are functionally-illiterate, socially-retarded pajeets with zero skills despite their degrees and diplomas. They say the school just passes them all despite them never doing any work and barely showing up for class. The things I've read about Conestoga have led me to believe that school in particular should lose its accreditation because it's no better than all the fake private diploma mills.

 

[OutInTheRain]

When it comes to innovation, Canada ranks and embarrassing 25th overall. Yet the Laurentian dipshits and their choir of barking seals act as if we're number one because we're not like those savages in United States.

I'll let you in on a secret. The Laurentian Elite also hate Canadian healthcare, that's why they go to the US.

Its the same thing with the managerial class. They're dumb, astoundingly so. With all their fancy degrees, lattes, cafes, etc- they're dumb. They think they're smart, but they literally cant see the shit on the tip of their toe.

I'll touch on Conestoga college, because its a big scandal in Ontario. Ontario sees that there are going to be employment shortcomings because all the boomers are about to retire? Thats a problem we can solve! We'll just import 30,000 migrants to fill in the gaps at a single college. 500,000 a year overall throughout the country!

The MBA and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. There has been such a push for credentialism, as hiring has gotten too big, too impersonal and machine like at all levels. That these people hope beyond hope that a piece of paper gives the magic skills they require. They oddly try to automate every process, that shouldn't be automated, like hiring, and fight tooth and nail to keep others from automating, like jobs where you drink coffee answer emails and pontificate.

Sanji may have the piece of paper, that says he can do the job, but he also has his shoes on the wrong feet, and sent no less that three dick pics to women on Linkedin while he was waiting for his interview.

 

[Baraka Obama]

I've read that many employers are actually blacklisting Conestoga College graduates, because so many of the school's graduates are functionally-illiterate, socially-retarded pajeets with zero skills despite their degrees and diplomas. They say the school just passes them all despite them never doing any work and barely showing up for class. The things I've read about Conestoga have led me to believe that school in particular should lose its accreditation because it's no better than all the fake private diploma mills.

I pretty much throw out resumes if it comes from any of the borderline community collages around Toronto. Haven't heard of Conestoga before but if I haven't heard of an institution it usually just goes in the bin anyway.

 

[SilentDuck]

I pretty much throw out resumes if it comes from any of the borderline community collages around Toronto. Haven't heard of Conestoga before but if I haven't heard of an institution it usually just goes in the bin anyway.

Conestoga was seen as a backup type institution of last resort 20+ years ago but probably very convenient to locals. Very aggressive recruiting. They read the writing on the wall.

 

[Lord Xenu]

They say the school just passes them all despite them never doing any work and barely showing up for class.

This is every level of education in a nutshell, outside of the hard sciences, since the "No Child Left Behind" era.

There has been such a push for credentialism, as hiring has gotten too big, too impersonal and machine like at all levels.

I'd like to offically coin the term eduflation. It's exactly the same phenomena as inflation in the economy. The push for every single person regardless of their capability, to have a post-secondary degree, forces the quality of education to go down in order for them to succeed. At the same time, the supply of credentialed applicants outstrips the demand, causing the base requirements for a given position to increase in order to filter out unqualified applicants.

We're now in the hyper-eduflation phase.

I'll let you in on a secret. The Laurentian Elite also hate Canadian healthcare, that's why they go to the US.

Does anyone recall a news story a while back (circa 2013ish?) where it come out that one of the large university hospitals had a VIP list for politicians and other so-called elites? From my recollection, some papers leaked from their board meetings. I can't find any articles about that specific event, but it seems that a VIP OHIP program existed in 2016. No wonder the laurentians don't care about the state of health care in Canada, they don't have to contend with it.

At first, the ministry denied that any such program exists. Then we told them that their own employee had confirmed it. Only then did they concede the existence of an “administrative function,” rather than a “program,” that exists to provide emergency health care in Ontario to “dignitaries visiting Ontario (e.g. Heads of State).”

When we followed-up to ask if the program applied to any Canadians, they expanded the list to include “both foreign and domestic dignitaries visiting Ontario. Domestic dignitaries include the prime minister and governor general.”

They later expanded it once more, to include former prime ministers as well (but not MPs).

We asked if any other Canadians get access — spouses and families of PMs and GGs, but have not received an answer.

“Considering the potential threat associated with advance knowledge of a visiting dignitary to Ontario, the distribution of this information is co-ordinated with the federal government,” Jensen, the ministry spokesman, said. “Typically ambulance services and local hospitals are advised of visits of dignitaries and any specific health concerns are identified through a notification from the nearest ambulance dispatch centre.”

Because it’s a federal protocol, it’s likely there are similar programs and protocols in provinces across the country.

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Conestoga was seen as a backup type institution of last resort 20+ years ago but probably very convenient to locals. Very aggressive recruiting. They read the writing on the wall.

When I was in the region, they had a bunch of trades programs. I'd drive by and see people laying bricks at the side of the building. Every once in a while they would tear it down, then start again.

 

[wry wrangler]

Even when I went to a legit university over 10 years ago I was told foreign students were essential to the university because of the limits on tuition increases for Canadian students. Even back then, I believed it was bullshit. Now I know for sure. I can only imagine how bad things have gotten at my university since then. I wonder how many bullshit programs they've introduced to cater to pajeets in search of that sweet, sweet Permanent Residency permit. Frankly, I'm afraid to actually check.

 

[Nikes_JustDoIt]

I think you guys bring really good points about how the education system now is pretty shit especially getting pajeets into the country. This push is super short sighted when the boomers that help run the country and make it work retire and the younger less qualified workforce takes over its going to be disastrous.

 

[Konig]

To any Canucks thinking of moving stateside, I'll tell you straight off to avoid Texas, Montana, or Wyoming.

Enlighten me. Is it the Californians?

 

[F13 Key]

On Conestoga: the pajeet infestation is mostly in the hospitality/restaurant management programs and the information systems diplomas. They have a Comp Sci bachelors program that's still known good and their trades programs are actually really good. The pajeets scamming the system don't go into any of those programs because they're not able to secure visas for long enough for the degree ones, and are physically incapable of doing the practical work required by skilled trades. You can't cheat your way through a welding ticket.

I used to think that immigration had a valid purpose for filling gaps in the labor market, but not this sort. We don't need more retards slinging Tim Hortons and making cold calls doing surveys asking what we think of Poilievre's positions. We need doctors and nurses and skilled tradespeople, but there's no incentive for them to come here when their credentials are useless and they have to spend years recertifying themselves. The system doesn't want skilled workers to come here, it wants more cheap coolie labor so the Laurentians can see their stock prices go up further. They realized decades ago that the natives are too uppity and drunk to be relied on, so they decided to import it instead.

I have money but not paper, so fleeing to the USA isn't an option for me and I just have to try carve my space out here to take a stand in.

 

[wry wrangler]

Allowing a flood of foreign laborers into skilled trades and such would do nothing but crash wages into those sectors. I'm in favor of leaving those as they are.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Enlighten me. Is it the Californians?

Like how people move to Alberta from Ontario but bring the worst aspects with them. You're damn right.

 

[F13 Key]

Allowing a flood of foreign laborers into skilled trades and such would do nothing but crash wages into those sectors. I'm in favor of leaving those as they are.

I'd be alright with them if they can pass the same practical certification tests as people born here. If they seriously want to work and have the skills, I don't see a problem letting them. We're short in some skilled trades and the construction industry.

Just most of them don't.