Rocksteady teases Suicide Squad game

[Male Idiot]

When Harley clown orders her vegan soy salad on a date:
Greta Ivy: How dare you!

 

[There Is Light At The End]

See, it was already head-scratching turning Harley and Ivy from platonic friends to lovers, but now we’re taking the kiddy diddling angle now? Not a…not a very good look Rocksteady.

You can thank for this soyboy cos(c)oomers, jerking off to Harley and Ivy dyking out. It's the same as why we can't have 2 guys as bros. Fucking faghags, flicking over two guys fucking each other in the ass.

 

[PaladinBoo]

Batman - Saved countless innocents over the years, prevented many terrorist plots, exposed multiple corruption schemes, brought improvement and safety to Gotham. Stopped The Joker's scheme to use Titan to make an army of grotestic freaks to destroy Gotham. Stopped Dr Strange/Ras'al Ghul's plan to corrupt Gotham from the inside and genocide many innocents stuck in Arkham City. Stopped Scarecrow's plan from plunging Gotham into fear induced chaos. And not to mention the many many broken bones belonging to murderous evil thugs that displayed nothing but legit enjoyment from hurting others. The lies goes on.

Harley - Slept her way into her job. Fell for a murderous psychopathic clown after he used the cheapest tricks in the book. Murdered countless innocents. Participated in multiple terrorist plots that, if they were pulled off, would result in more countless innocent deaths. Demonstrated no regret at all. When she isnt fucking the clown, she is fucking a murderous green terrorist plant woman. The list goes on.

To his credit Tim Pool had a pretty good interview with Eric July and Eric summed it all up well. Eric stated that these soy cucks and faghags write themselves as the characters. As a writer you are suppose to get to know the characters. Not write yourself as them. At least that is what the great Chuck Dixon told him. He also stated that these writers are repulsed by heroism and can't identify with heroism. A good example brought up was Batman. Batman suffered a horrible tragedy in his youth but never blamed the world and worked hard to better himself and reach the peak that a human man can reach. Villains on the other hand indulge in sadistic vengeance and believe that the world owes them. It is no wonder progressive and activist writers relate more to villains instead of the heroes.

 

[Kulee Baba]

You can thank for this soyboy cos(c)oomers, jerking off to Harley and Ivy dyking out. It's the same as why we can't have 2 guys as bros. Fucking faghags, flicking over two guys fucking each other in the ass.

It's so disappointing as the genesis of Harley & Ivy was a BTAS episode that was just an affectionate tribute to Thelma and Louise. Neither fictional couples are lesbians, they're best friends. There's just this social attack on the nature of camaraderie, and then people have the nerve to wonder why mankind is more socially alienated than ever. Well if people keep acting like it's weird because people just want to spend time with best friends yeah you're going to drive us to be more more alone. I seriously feel bad for people who don't have at least ONE close friend, I think having that friendship is seriously paramount to sanity. There's certain subject matters that you cannot share with a lover without opening the gates of hell but you can confide it in a best friend because that friend doesn't have to deal with your dumbass on a daily basis.

And the unstable romantic narratives for Harley and Ivy is what makes them a fun duo to bounce off of. Harley is 90% of the time in an abusive relationship with The Joker, with her identity hinging entirely on Mr. J. Whereas Poison Ivy is a literal femme fatale, any relationship she has with a man is doomed to fail. When they lez out to please fans well they've solved both of their problems for the time being. Which is why Rocksteady had to pull a Star Trek Kid Keiko to give them some sort of conflict.

 

[Calandrino]

You can thank for this soyboy cos(c)oomers, jerking off to Harley and Ivy dyking out. It's the same as why we can't have 2 guys as bros. Fucking faghags, flicking over two guys fucking each other in the ass.

Sorry chuds

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Sorry chuds

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I feel like they miss the part where Ivy is just as exploitative as The Joker is with Harley, but has pangs of guilt about it. Ivy is one of the villains like Freeze, Two-Face, Catwoman who are kind of in the grey-black area where they could stop being a villain given the chance.

She’s to an environmentalist what a neo-Nazi is to a white separatist in normie terms. She literally goes “A rare plant species that existed in one cave in the world has gone extinct, BILLIONS MUST DIE”.

I think the feminist angle had her get called out by Waller in a Suicide Squad comic back in the day where Waller just says cut the bullshit you’ve orphaned kids.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

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WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE!?

ok, you dont want Ivy to be sexy anymore, fine. but did you have to make her look like a potato?

If you removed key parts of Poison Ivy's character like her age, sexyness and deadly seductiveness does that still really make her Poison Ivy?

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our girl Greta.

"Hey you know Greta Thunburg right? Poison Ivy is totally like Greta you guys so we made her a fetal alcohol baby, enjoy"!

If Penguin in that picture had longer hair he'd would look like Chris Chan.

There is a YouTuber who I watched talk about how awful the Suicide Squad is going to be and he raised a good question. That question being; "Who is this game made for?" This game is so edgy, cynical, nihilistic and mean spirited that it wasn't made for fans of the Batman Arkham games. WB really believed the myth of the "modern audience". That Reddit updoots and Twitter likes meant that these "people" would buy their slop of a game. Never mind the fact that most of those "people" leaving likes are bots. Bots that they paid for to create engagement for their products and shield them from criticism. The irony. The only thing I look forward to with Suicide Squad is seeing gaming YouTubers rip this game a new asshole and the coping and seething from the writers at Sweet Baby Inc. on Twitter.

It was made for themselves, ESG and to spite people. It was also probably made to sabotage David Zaslav and WB.

 

[Hideous K]

Harley - Slept her way into her job. Fell for a murderous psychopathic clown after he used the cheapest tricks in the book. Murdered countless innocents. Participated in multiple terrorist plots that, if they were pulled off, would result in more countless innocent deaths. Demonstrated no regret at all. When she isnt fucking the clown, she is fucking a murderous green terrorist plant woman. The list goes on.

Add this on the list with Harley killing thousands with a video game because she wants to prove her BF that she can kill like him.
I swear the comic writers have been fumbling with her since the start.

 

[The handsome tard]

Assault on Arkham did a Suicide Squad story years ago, and pulled it off much better, and actually felt like it fit into the Arkhamverse. And it had Kevin Conroy as Batman outsmarting the villains instead of just getting shot or whatever.

Also a little palate cleanser, reminder that this is what Harley and Ivy looked like in the actual Arkham games.
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It was all over for gaming at the end of the PS3 era. We peaked at the PS2.

We can’t have sexy women in games anymore. It’s over for American games, bros.

Im still old enough to remember that conservatives throwing a hissy fit over sexy women in video games. Years later and cue liberals throwing the same talk with the SAME arguments.

This topic proves the Horseshoe theory is real.

There is no way that this is part of the main Arkham Verse. The designs and tone are too different, there is no way they can make this canon anymore than they can slam a square in a round shaped hole. This is either an alternative universe or a reboot, either way nobody is actually going to treat this shit as canon.

Aw here comes the multiverse !

Im tired of multiverses stories, so much. Especially around capeshit. Its a plot excuse nearly everytime.

I feel like the issue is they’re writing these people as friends or like they want to be there. The only game I’ve ever seen do that well is Left 4 Dead 2, where the each character is effectively a stranger with some outright not liking each other to start and then softening.

The character writing in Left 4 Dead was always a bit of stereotypes, but stereotypes work as the basis of a character. Tropes and cliches are not inherently bad if you play into them or subvert them well enough.

L4D1/2 characters worked because they have entertaining personality and dynamics with each other and the world around them. And like you said, in L4D2, there is a visible progression through the campaigns. But that requires one knowing friendships and things that brings even the most different of people together and we know that these people have no friends outside of the internet.

Add this on the list with Harley killing thousands with a video game because she wants to prove her BF that she can kill like him.
I swear the comic writers have been fumbling with her since the start.

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Are we suppose to feel sorry for her after this? Holy shit...

 

[blablabla]

Harley peaked on Harley´s Holydays and playing the kazoo at batmans funeral. Its been only shit for almost 30 years now

 

[Kulee Baba]

Harley peaked on Harley´s Holydays and playing the kazoo at batmans funeral. Its been only shit for almost 30 years now

At this point I'm just going to separate Paul Dini's Harley Quinn from the rest. Sucks that Paul's work for Warner Bros has been getting shelved as of recent they were supposed to make a full adaptation of Batman: Black & White.

Like this (short story) which is compatible with "Mad Love" sums up Harley well. When she's not on Joker dick she's actually intelligent and not a psychopath. She's akin to the Manson Family girls she loses her mind getting mindfucked into the Joker.

I said it earlier this year when Arleen Sorkin died and I'll say it again; Todd Philips and Lady Gaga are going to decide Harley's future. But I'm not an obsessed fan who wants a straightforward adaptation of Dini's source material (wouldn't work in Philips Joker anyway) I want their relationship to be two way street of emotional abuse and manipulation. Here's hoping it comes out decent, they just need to ripoff The King of Comedy some more Sandra Bernhardt's character in that movie is the kind of nutcase Gaga Harley should draw from.

I'm just so tired of Girlboss Harley, she's not a Girlboss she's a lunatic.

 

[anustart76]

Like this (short story) which is compatible with "Mad Love" sums up Harley well. When she's not on Joker dick she's actually intelligent and not a psychopath. She's akin to the Manson Family girls she loses her mind getting mindfucked into the Joker.

Depends on what you mean by intelligent, she pretty much slept with her professors to get her degree.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Depends on what you mean by intelligent, she pretty much slept with her professors to get her degree.

That's really a great detail about Harley's character, she commits the psychological concept of "love bombing" to get her way. A Professor tells her she's going to fail the class due to a poor exam and then she gives him THE SUCC to get an Easy A. Joker is traditionally portrayed a perpetual loner, Harley is the only character that can manipulate The Joker.

If you made me a comic writer fine I'd have Harley and Ivy be rugmunchers, only for Ivy to realize that has been played a fool by Harley. Harley should just use Poison Ivy to make The Joker jealous, IMO if Harley could she would pair up with Two-Face, Penguin, hell even Batman if that were ever possible but she uses Ivy because Ivy is the ONLY one stupid & vulnerable enough to pity Harley. The other rogues would use her as ransom for The Joker and Batman would lock her in Arkham. And if Ivy ever got close to killing The Joker then Harley would smash her head in to protect her true love. That would be cool & dramatic, that would speak volumes to the character of Harley Quinn.

Again I so badly hope Todd Philips just keeps plagiarizing Scorsese. I can so EASILY imagine this scene recreated with Gaga singing to a tied up Joaquin Phoenix knowing HE'S THE PREY and this alluring "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" is a monster just like him. That's how I want Harley portrayed beyond a kid friendly setting, it's the only way you can rationalize why she's just as much of a terror. It's so easy to fix the character and DC is too chickenshit to do anything because the lame "Anti-Hero" is too appealing to coomers and girls.

 

[Vecr]

Ah man, what does this remind me of? I hope it's not too aggressively creepy. What's the actual backstory on this, I can't find it from a quick skim of the thread.

In a manner of speaking.
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WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE!?

ok, you dont want Ivy to be sexy anymore, fine. but did you have to make her look like a potato?

She looks like a plant alien with they/them pronouns.

Not really, it's probably based on a scan.

 

[ShitLurker]

See, it was already head-scratching turning Harley and Ivy from platonic friends to lovers, but now we’re taking the kiddy diddling angle now? Not a…not a very good look Rocksteady.

They have to work hard to get women to step up to the plate seeing how "women" absolutely dwarf them when it comes to sexual abuse of minors.

Add this on the list with Harley killing thousands with a video game because she wants to prove her BF that she can kill like him.
I swear the comic writers have been fumbling with her since the start.

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God, I hate edginess of edginess sake.

 

[anustart76]

If you made me a comic writer fine I'd have Harley and Ivy be rugmunchers, only for Ivy to realize that has been played a fool by Harley. Harley should just use Poison Ivy to make The Joker jealous, IMO if Harley could she would pair up with Two-Face, Penguin, hell even Batman if that were ever possible but she uses Ivy because Ivy is the ONLY one stupid & vulnerable enough to pity Harley. The other rogues would use her as ransom for The Joker and Batman would lock her in Arkham. And if Ivy ever got close to killing The Joker then Harley would smash her head in to protect her true love. That would be cool & dramatic, that would speak volumes to the character of Harley Quinn.

I would think Joker isn't going to be jealous of a woman, only another man. As much as he ignores Harley, she's still his girlfriend and favorite plaything and the closest thing to a person he actually cares about. The thing about making him jealous was something they already did by the way, in Assault on Arkham, with Deadshot, and it was handled perfectly. Harley sleeps with Deadshot and fawns all over him, then as soon as Joker finds out, he's actually livid, only for Harley to dump Deadshot for Joker as soon as he's free.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I swear the comic writers have been fumbling with her since the start.

They abso-fucking lutely have.I stopped following DC comics when they added harley to the comics god knows how many years ago, and the characterization has distorted further to something completely unrecognizable over the last decade or so since it's happened. OG Harley from the animated series was someone that was smart otherwise but fell in love with a fucking criminal which led to a series of goofy back and forths and occasional bits where the joker would hit her and other characters are like "this isn't really a healthy relationship you know". It took the joker fucking DYING to get them perma-separated. It wasn't due to her being stupid or anything, it was literally just a realistic toxic relationship between lovers who were actual fucking criminals. Flash forward to after Harley gets introduced int he comics, they play down her credentials by acting like she either faked them and was dumber than she let on, or just outright fucking turn her into "haha ditzy sexy girl gets abused by bad mean man who doesn't like her unlike the lesbinan gf she could have!!!" It always fucking bothered me and never stops bothering me, the shit thathappened to Harley Quinn was like a precursor to what happened to a lot of more important characters in media. We're at the point the shittier Harley has possibly been around longer than the decently written one in terms of quantity of appearances. Her original thing of a character that "knows better" and proceeds to continue their life of petty crime because of their relationship with a clown themed felon and can be talked down at some points or straight up used as a means of sabotaging joker is a lot more intriguing than whatever bullshit DC sharts out about nu-harley.

Tl;Dr DC turned an interesting character originally exclusive to animation from a nuanced character to the coomer bait character and then the reddit/twitter appeal "wacky guirboss!!" character and we're probably never gonna see a character as interesting and realistic as the first depiction ever again.

 

[Uiyraz]

It's a combination of this being the newest instance of utter disrespect for beloved characters, plus the fact that this will always be remembered as Kevin Conroy's final appearance as Batman before his death, and they wasted it like this.
Even if it will be forgotten for the shitty game it's going to be, it will ALWAYS be his last role, and a lot of people will never forget or forgive that


It's the Batman Who Laugh's origin story. He just killed the Joker for his latest atrocity, and got infected with uber-Joker-gas that is slowly changing him. He called Dick, Babs, Jason and Damien to the cave to kill them, and then goes on to give Clark a new brand of Kryptonite that forces him to kill his own family
It's some of the most edgy, grimdark shit i've seen, and it's barely entertaining

Ah Scott Snyder press S to spit

 

[Uiyraz]

The one game I felt that they did a proper villain is The Boss from Saints Row 2, he was angry, ambitious, selfish and psychotic for the most part. There are a couple of examples where he would kill someone who was innocent or at least mostly innocent.

He killed a gang boss's girlfriend by stuffing her in the trunk of a car that got crushed unbeknownst to the gang boss and the bartender from the nightclub during a raid by Masako commandos when she was flirting with him and he used her as a meat shield who he then set on fire after she was shot as a distraction so he can shoot back at commandos.

The only people he showed respect towards was those he knew since the beginning. Johnny Gat and Aisha he cared about since joining The Saints and Mr. Wong the Triad Boss when he worked for him in SR1 but Shaundi, Pierce and Carlos. He didn't respect them too much.

They even softened The Boss afterwards because Volition felt he was too evil to be relatable.

Some CRPGS and others rpgs if i remember correctly handled being evil decently too

 

[anustart76]

Ah Scott Snyder press S to spit

(I'm on a phone and can't Photoshop the flag to fit, just pretend it's Snyder or Rocksteady or whatever)