General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

In other news, Rushia has quit VShojo. Film at eleven.
Thought she already quit. Don't they have another one who's a friend of Calli who never streams as well?

Jumping through various Twitter accounts I ended up on the personal one for FuwaMocco and saw them being mutuals with JAST (the only real competitor to MangaGamer in the US). They also follow JAST on their Holo account but not MG and MG doesn't follow them on either account. They're probably not too broken up about it since they still follow MG on their personal account and they're now rolling in Holo money but I got a chuckle out of only the one they didn't work for following back.

Would be funny to see them get an offer to shill Nitroplus games or whatever JAST does at anime expos some day.
 
Honestly felt like she was gone a long time ago anyways. Seen more clips of her streaming as Mikeneko in the last quarter than as Nazuna in the last year.

Wonder if Kson needing to invest so much time with that Yakuza contest and Henya mainly streaming in English made her feel like a black sheep in the company. I'm just wondering out loud, but given her... past, we'll probably hear her talk/yell about it.
If I had to wager a guess It's just she was finding more opportunities as Mikeneko, she got signed by pony canyon
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and also back in July was picked up by a voice acting agency Voice Ore
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Thought she already quit. Don't they have another one who's a friend of Calli who never streams as well?
Gigguk's wife Sydney who's friends with Calli is Hime Hajime one of the first announced members of Vshojo.
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probably still outstreamed Nazuna this year.
 
picked up by a voice acting agency Voice Ore
I have connected some dots I wish I hadn't.

Uto quit streaming for a long period right after she got popular because she signed up to a predatory company that fucked her over and made her want to quit. She managed to escape the contract and came back to streaming, and all was good.

She then goes on indefinite hiatus to focus on her voice acting career (which I totally support, that's awesome Tenshi), and comes back to do some more streams recently, saying she was signed by none other than Voice Ore.

If they're the kind of company to take on Rushia, I can't help feel like there's something amiss. I hope nobody else hurts Tenshi again, she's too innocent.

Back to the dragon, people on reddit have raised the concern that Selen's hospital X post is bad for Niji no matter what. Either one of their talents is hospitalized and there's been zero "we wish her a speedy recovery" from the official channels such as the X, or the post is a fabrication impelled by Niji to cover up a stealth suspension (as we've seen many times before). First time I've seen reddit with a braincell.

Had to scroll a long way to find it though.
 
Advent calendar finale featuring all of EN is premiering now
Time to be a Christmas grinch, but I'll note that the only bit of Gura was right at the start and was dog barking and that was it.
The other 24 days didn't even feature her. Poor chumbuds.
Selen's hospital X post is bad for Niji no matter what.
It is. Especially with the timing. Unless she wound up in the burn ward from accidentally setting herself on fire from cooking the Christmas Goose or something - odds are she went into a hospital for anxiety / worse. Especially if they're monitoring her. Especially with the numbers of 15,000 dollars being flushed down the drain by Niji fucking her over... They just look guilty AF.
 
Especially if they're monitoring her
With how many people keep saying stuff like this I wonder how few people have actually dealt with hospitals before. They keep people overnight for observation for a ton of things, wanting to keep the patient close by in case some complication arises post-whatever treatment was administered, wanting to run additional tests the following day that they may not be able to do right that minute, in personal experience, especially if one has access to insurance, the hospital can bill, hospitals can push to do all sorts of additional measures "just in case" because they know the insurance or government will pick up the tab.

That detail in her tweet is not in any way particularly indicative of there being some menhera situation. It doesn't rule it out but it doesn't point toward it either.
 
In other news, Rushia has quit VShojo. Film at eleven.
There are some weird reactions to the announcement.
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Why is she distancing herself from it now when everything pointed to it? (a)
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Does she implies the was ghosted by her or is the TL weird? (a)

Anyways: AsaMoco is starting in a few minutes
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Edit: The nostalgia
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Why is she distancing herself from it now when everything pointed to it?
Probably because Kson vouched for Rushia to get her the job at Vshojo and Rushia underperformed and proceeded to quit in just a couple of years. I feel bad for Kson because she likely recommended her because she saw Rushia as a friend and wanted to help her out.

Of course remember that she knew full well how nutty and unstable Rushia was (her fans were telling not to associate with Rushia because they said this exact thing would happen, she even put out a video telling them they didn't know what they were talking about) so in the end Kson only has herself to blame for this blowing up in her face. She really should just own up to it and accept she was wrong. She was too honest of a person and so she was taken advantage of. It reminds me of when Null would try to help Chris out.
 
She's Canadian.
keep reading right after the part you quoted "because they know the insurance or government will pick up the tab." Greed existing in the healthcare industry doesn't vanish just because it's not in the US. If you think their government systems regulate it well enough to not get abused in that way I'll just remind you that it's so "well handled" that they'll just tell you to kill yourself if you have the wrong condition.
Anyway, you two actually believe she's in hospital?
Always a chance it's just a complete fabrication for a stealth suspension but it might not be as well. There's not much to go off of and my whole point was to dial back on people pretending like they know it's certainly X when really we don't have anything more than assumptions to go off of one way or the other pointing out that the "kept for observation" bit of her tweet doesn't point to a mental health issue necessarily or even most likely.
Why is she distancing herself from it now when everything pointed to it? (a)
Possibly because there's a lot of people doing what's going on a bit here and all over 4chan, which is using this as an angle to criticize Nazuna/Mikeneko to call her ungrateful for leaving when even Kson herself has said if she had better opportunities elsewhere she would pursue them.

like Genuinely Kson's said if another company could offer her a better contract than Vshojo could afford she'd take it. Do you really think this is the kind of person to now feel betrayed by Nazuna doing exactly that to chase better opportunities?
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I mean it's pretty clear that Kson kind of vouched for her in one way or another. There is no point in denying it now. This attempt in trying to spin the narrative just looks extremely silly. It's not like she has to shift the responsibility for "hiring" Nazuna, even if some people might think to blame her for that. She should know better and not bring that up at all imo.
 
I doubt Selen did anything, she's one of the more level-headed vtubers around and she's been dealing with shit from the company for a while now so none of it is a shock, pretty much guaranteed it's some sort of stealth suspension. A more believable rrat is that she simply wont return and her graduation will be announced due to "health reasons" only for her to show up elsewhere the second she is able to.

like Genuinely Kson's said if another company could offer her a better contract than Vshojo could afford she'd take it. Do you really think this is the kind of person to now feel betrayed by Nazuna doing exactly that to chase better opportunities?
I dont think she cares about people pursuing business opportunities in general, of course she wouldnt consider it a betrayal just over that. But Rushia joining made Kanata move out and more or less cut her off from all her old friends. Maybe she cares about that, maybe she doesnt but I cant certainly see the possibility of her being a bit annoyed about giving up so much for something that ended up being completely pointless and giving Rushia an opportunity she wasnt grateful for and did nothing with
 
I mean it's pretty clear that Kson kind of vouched for her in one way or another. There is no point in denying it now. This attempt in trying to spin the narrative just looks extremely silly. It's not like she has to shift the responsibility for "hiring" Nazuna, even if some people might think to blame her for that. She should know better and not bring that up at all imo.
I think it's just more to address the grumbling of people trying to frame Nazuna leaving as some sort of slight against Kson, there's been plenty of the sort of sentiment going around since the announcement to the extent that I've even seen it tossed out in my personal circles that don't follow vtuber drama and shit like that. folks acting like "oh Kson stuck her neck out for Nazuna and got her the spot only for her to leave, how ungrateful"

which Ksons statement does pretty well shut down, Its a bit harder for people to put that on Nazuna when the person herself is saying "no that' wasn't me and this is fine"

That being said the sentiment seems more widespread on the JP side, and Kson's tweet was in Japanese so It certainly makes sense

(An Example of JP fans talking about it this way grabbed quickly from twitter through MTL, The person in making the tweet later walked back their statement and apologized after Kson's tweet went out which would be the intended effect of Kson even making the statement) link
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But Rushia joining made Kanata move out and more or less cut her off from all her old friends.
I feel like we're just piling rrats on top of rrats here because the Kanata thing was always only speculation and Kson literally had Choco at her meet and greet event along with Calli and others and has streamed with Mel several times as well.

Speaking of that meet and greet though and with Fuwamoco doing an homage to Coco for today's morning stream. I wonder if they ever chatted with her or got her "blessing" to do something like that. They've met in person before after all at that exact fan meet that Choco and Calli were present at.
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Actually I kind of wonder if Calli isn't how they "somehow" got a ticket like they mentioned in that post.
 
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