2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

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Israel in secret talks for the "voluntary" transfer of Palestinians out of Gaza.

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It's kind of strange that despite Jews supposedly being behind the Great Replacement etc. the powers that be, who are normally absolutely insistent on the right of refugees/economic migrants to go wherever they please, are in this case dead-set that not a single Palestinian leave Gaza despite the ongoing "humanitarian catastrophe" and the vast majority of both Israelis and Gazans desperately wanting this.
 
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EyeGuy said:
It's kind of strange that despite Jews supposedly being behind the Great Replacement etc. the powers that be, who are normally absolutely insistent on the right of refugees/economic migrants to go wherever they please, are in this case dead-set that not a single Palestinian leave Gaza despite the ongoing "humanitarian catastrophe" and the vast majority of both Israelis and Gazans desperately wanting this.
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I think the issue is not migrants per se. After all, diversity is our strength and there are 2 million future doctors and engineers in Gaza right now that is sure to culturally enrich the cuisine and culture of whatever country possesses the moral courage to do the only correct thing.

The issue is that forcibly relocating all this cultural enrichment is against international law, and therefore causes a triple double think thought crime.
 
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EyeGuy said:
who are normally absolutely insistent on the right of refugees/economic migrants to go wherever they please, are in this case dead-set
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Because their interest in weaponizing migrants is less than their interest in ensuring the end of history, as treating states as immutable, unassailable entities means they can stay in power in perpetuity. Allow Israel to completely evacuate, occupy, and dismantle what's left of Palestine shatters that illusion even harder than Russia has - It can't be the end of history if both sides of the global divide are allowing the complete destruction of states. They worry their tools of power could be next then.
 
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EyeGuy said:
It's kind of strange that despite Jews supposedly being behind the Great Replacement etc. the powers that be, who are normally absolutely insistent on the right of refugees/economic migrants to go wherever they please, are in this case dead-set that not a single Palestinian leave Gaza despite the ongoing "humanitarian catastrophe" and the vast majority of both Israelis and Gazans desperately wanting this.
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The reluctance to leave, resettle elsewhere, and better their lives, is the kind of absolute suicidal delusion that keeps perpetuating this conflict. And all these terrorism-complicit NGOs are responsible for enabling this delusion. Meanwhile people keep crying about ethnic cleansing as if displacement isn't a natural consequence of war.

Below is a video from Mr. Fafo's instagram displaying this delusion in full force.


 
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EyeGuy said:
It's kind of strange that despite Jews supposedly being behind the Great Replacement etc. the powers that be, who are normally absolutely insistent on the right of refugees/economic migrants to go wherever they please, are in this case dead-set that not a single Palestinian leave Gaza despite the ongoing "humanitarian catastrophe" and the vast majority of both Israelis and Gazans desperately wanting this.
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Every time I ask the retards on here about why Jews would import people to the west, where must Jewish people live, who want to kill them they explain, “well that’s the self-hating liberal Jews.” 180 iq move, checkmate atheists, etc.

That doesn’t explain why no one on this earth wants to take Palestinians. Imagine being such a waste of humanity you can’t even get kicked out of one country. Jewish kiwi bros should wear that 109 as a badge of pride.
 
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Life is Hell... said:
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Fuck these people...
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Holy fuck Bangladeshis are some of the most INSUFFERABLE assholes in South Asia. They literally worship Arabic writing and think they're big and bad because India had to save their asses in 1971 from getting completely wiped out by Pakistanis.

Now the ones in the West are usually hardcore Islamists or BLD hoes who can't keep their legs closed and simultaneously post all over social media about how Islam is amazing and why every women should be covered....

Both types are also insane nationalists who also simp for jihadis worldwide

India should do the needful launch a nuclear strike on Dhaka.
 
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If the Israeli war cabinet were to, at best, promote relocation outside of Gaza, at worst, force Gazans out, it would be a PR nightmare. Not to mention, a violation of international law. I can’t see expulsion to the Congo (which Congo?) actually being on the table and personally think it was someone’s attempt at a joke. Then again, the world has no shortage of lunatics.
 
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Scrumption said:
If the Israeli war cabinet were to, at best, promote relocation outside of Gaza, at worst, force Gazans out, it would be a PR nightmare. Not to mention, a violation of international law. I can’t see expulsion to the Congo (which Congo?) actually being on the table and personally think it was someone’s attempt at a joke. Then again, the world has no shortage of lunatics.
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The Congo plan isn't happening, but "PR nightmares" and "international law" are very flexible. Azerbaijan got away with doing the exact same thing just a couple of months ago to the Armenian population of Nagorno-Karabakh. Pakistan just expelled hundreds of thousands of Afghan refugees. Israel doesn't have the luxury of being a major energy supplier to Europe or alternatively being a third-world shithole no one pays attention to, so we and the Palestinians are doomed to endless suffering in the name of the "rules-based order" which prevents any sort of actual conflict resolution.
 
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I think people miss a point here. International law regulates the relations between states. "Gaza" is not a state. Afaik nobody recognised Gaza as an independant state. Gaza did not proclaim itself to be a state.

Egypt doesn't want Gazans and neither do Lebanon, Jordania or Saudi Arabia.

As stateless persons, they can be issued Nansen passports or whatever travel document. If Congo or any country decides to let them in, it's that country's decision.

I am sure that a high percentage of Palestinians would prefer to be Monegasque citizens and live in Montecarlo.

Anyway all these "violations of international law" apply to relations between states.

For some reason people are trying to apply the rules of war between regular armies to terrorists that attacked a civilian population.

I don't see the poor civilian population of Gaza denouncing the terrorists or distancing itself from them, they actively help them.

If one was found in England helping the IRA, in Italy helping the Red Brigades, or in Germany helping the Rote Armee Fraktion and letting the terrorists use one's house to shoot people, one wouldn't expect not to be shot at by the police.

Hamas is not an army and this is not an international conflict.

People quote from international law saying things like "collective punishment is prohibited" without knowing what is collective punishment (it's what the Germans used to do, if someone from a village shot a German, they would destroy the village).

They think a "proportional response" is something like killing the same amount of people that were killed. By this logic, if Russia bombed the White House, the US should retaliate by bombing a block of flats.

Those posts before about "Abrahamic religions" - wait, Abraham? The one who married Sarah? idk but they seem very Jewish to me.

But if religion means a claim to a territory, then I think it's Persia, Egypt, Greece and Italy that should take over. I confess I am not familiar with American (re: the continent) or Oceanic religions.

Unconditional surrender, then occupation, dehamazification and maybe 50 years later you can be your own country as long as you behave and we keep bases there.

 
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nya002 said:
Anyway all these "violations of international law" apply to relations between states.
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I agree with what you said about proportionate responses, but you are off when you mention international law. It applies to more than just relations between states. You’re interpreting the word “international” as meaning “relations among nations” when a better interpretation is “relations among and within nations.” International humanitarian law applies to armed conflict, whether of international or non-international character. There are some specific rules that apply to each, but most rules are the same for both.

A related area of international law, international human rights law, also applies within and among nations.
 
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nya002 said:
Anyway all these "violations of international law" apply to relations between states
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Thats not the way it works. International law still stands regardless of whether its between 'states'.

The issue is, all the outcries of "this is against international law" are bull, because its always something like

"you cant bomb a hospital, its against international law!"

>Yes, but when you use a hospital to launch rockets, its no longer protected.

Collective punishment is a buzzword as well used by leftists on the Gaza issue for "civilians arent fleeing and are suffering because they choose to stay in an active warzone".
 
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