Crossover ZeroHedge January 6th, 2024 Debate with Alex Jones, Darren Beattie, Glenn Greenwald vs. Ed and Brian Krassenstein and Destiny

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Particle Bored said:
ETA: I do wonder how far down the list ZeroHedge worked their way before they had to settle for Destiny and the 'steins.
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Destiny is most likey high on the list as he is pretty much the only big name breadtuber who is willing to do big IRL debates with people outside of his bubble.

The other two are absolutely bottom of the barrel as ZH needs to find two breadtubers who:
A. Is willing to debate with people out of their comfort zone
B. Stomach Destiny enough to be on a team with him

Can't imagine there are many people who fit both criterias.
 
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Why can't they get anyone competent on the right to participate in this? The leftists will run with the narrative that two thousand unarmed boomers meandering around the Capitol was a White nationalist coup attempt because some cops got pushed in a tunnel and libertarians showed up with walkie talkies, and Beattie/Jones will respond with sperging about the retarded Ray Epps conspiracy theory while not challenging any of the opponents' core arguments. I have a bad feeling that they're just going to spend the debate running cover for Trump by saying that "yes, there was a insurrection committed by domestic terrorists, but Trump's speech didn't incite it and they're all actually FBI agents!" At least Fuentes would have a take that wasn't predicated on immediately admitting defeat. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, I don't know much about Glenn Greenwald's take on J6.
 
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GradeAGobbleDeeGook said:
"Our panel will include such media luminaries as Alex Jones, Darren Beattie, Glenn Greenwald on one side, and Ed and Brian Krassenstein, as well as YouTuber "Destiny" on the other."
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This line up sucks, the only funny one is Alex Jones but the whole thing is a crock of shit, nothing serious will come from any of these retards.

anustart76 said:
Ian will likely interrupt at random moments and bring up graphene.
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Hopefully, this is going to be shit otherwise.
 
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David Brown said:
What specifically did Tucker lie about? I'm starting to come around on Tuck and I want to see this kind of evidence
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I'm not American, so I can't speak on his coverage of American politics, but if someone consistently and openly lies about one topic I draw conclusions about their overall character and reliability.

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CRP is a lifelong conman, recently turned politics grifter, who was arrested for spreading pro-Russian propaganda. Really retarded shit, like Ukraine is ruled by neo nazis, Donbass genocide and such. He's not a journalist and he knew what he did was illegal when he did it and he did it anyway because he likes money.
The only evidence for him being tortured were his own words. And even he said it was other inmates who beat his ass IIRC.

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The statement was that the US has a treaty obligation to defend NATO countries, and the Russian government has threatened several NATO members with invasion (and already attacked infrastructure in NATO countries), so if Ukraine is left to rot, it is possible that American soldiers may have to die, instead of Ukrainians.
Agree or not, it's quite a different message to what Tucker claims.

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You're allowed to ask it, and the answer is obviously Ukraine.
If you're not a Christian of the Kremlin aligned Orthodox Church (some Christian denominations take issue with the head of state having say in religious matters, which is another topic), you will be suppressed.

I couldn't find a screencap, but I'm pretty sure I also saw him say that Ukraine banned the orthodox church.
What was banned was the "Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate)", which served a single digit percentage of the population and had been providing safe houses and intel to the Russian government, aided in the persecution of priests in occupied territories, and infiltrated Russian glowies into foreign countries since Soviet times. This is why they were banned and their property was mostly transferred to the "Orthodox Church of Ukraine", which serves about 70% of the population (unlike in Russia, significant portions of the population belong to other Christian denominations as well).

This isn't an exhaustive list or anything, just what I could remember off the top of my head and could find screencaps for. None of these are "difference of opinion" issues, he is blatantly stating falsities with a straight face to an audience who believe him. You cannot trust a word he says. No amount of "trannies bad" will change that.

Funny things I found while grabbing these:
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He is constantly arguing for abandoning American allies in Europe to fend for themselves, but the only exception he makes is Hungary, whose elite is being denied EU funding because it was revealed that they used those EU funds to enrich themselves and their family and associates. They also hold NATO hostage to extract concessions in return for allowing countries like Finland and Sweden join the alliance. These are the real victims and America's most important allies according to Tucker.

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lmao he interviewed a literal UFO conspiracy nut, what is this clownery, I didn't think he went that far
Now I want to see him and Jones go all in on aliens.
 
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Marmon 16 said:
He had Rekieta on today to argue with in preparation for tomorrows debate

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I don't like this Destiny guy because he uses cheap tricks in debates. He brings Rekieta on to debate on the grounds of legal justification for J6, and argues on moral grounds and using majority opinion to determine and justify truth.

If I were Rekieta (thank God I'm not), I would have hung up as soon as Destiny started with the "don't you think things should work like this?" approach.
 
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Alex Jones is unhinged but hilarious, Glenn Greenwald is compromised and I don't believe his "journalistic integrity" for a second, yet they won't have trouble dismantling these twitter debate bros for sure
It's going to be a shitshow 100%, and hopefully an entertaining one. Destiny is either ballsy, or just arrogant and stupid to participate in a public debate after he got publicly cucked and used by his "wife"
I'd just be calling him a cuck the entire time
 
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GradeAGobbleDeeGook said:
"Our panel will include such media luminaries as Alex Jones, (((Darren Beattie))), (((Glenn Greenwald))) on one side, and Ed and (((Brian Krassenstein))), as well as YouTuber "Destiny" on the other."
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Team 33% Jew vs Team 66% Jew
PLACE YOUR BETS NOW

Edit: I have been informed there are actually 2 Jews on each team. An even match!
 
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Tiny will underestimate Beattie who will carry the rhetoric while Glenn provides credentials and Alex puts on a show. No amount of Wikipedia skimming can compete with having the Krassbros as your debating partners. This will be like the Trainwrecks debate where Fuentes got his catalyzing moment on Twitch before all the services started deplatforming everyone that can hold a credible opposing view and artificially boosting absolute performative retards like Hasan for the clapping seals.

DootSkeleton said:
Team 33% Jew vs Team 66% Jew
PLACE YOUR BETS NOW
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Beattie is also Jewish, but it's just a coincidence. He's one of the good ones.
 
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