Fargo - This is a True Story.

[Sam Losco]

Yeah this season is pretty stupid. I'm fully expecting Dot, Roy's current wife he beats up, or both of them to kill him in a glorious moment of female empowerment.

 

[Blue Gem Kosher Queen]

I religiously think about this show and even I forgot this was happening.

 

[Autistic Orson Welles]

Season 4 sucked cock, but I thought it was mostly due to COVID limitations and insane union rules.

It looks like I was wrong. Season 5 is probably worse. It's full of moralistic feminist themes and shitty left-wing politics that have no place whatsoever in a dark comedy like Fargo. The characters act in ways that make no sense, and apparently, even though it's 2019, no one has cameras or videos or Twitter. It's extremely lazy in every respect and very boring, and half of the episodes are filler.

I still think about seasons 1-3 all the time. They are the best TV ever produced by miles. But this is dogshit.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

But this is dogshit.

Don't worry fren, the guy that made this is handling the next Alien film/tv show.

 

[Autistic Orson Welles]

Don't worry fren, the guy that made this is handling the next Alien film/tv show.

oh, I know. When I heard Hawley was doing it, I was thrilled. After this season, I'm sad.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

oh, I know. When I heard Hawley was doing it, I was thrilled. After this season, I'm sad.

Maybe he is super-involved in the Alien project, and either didn't spend any time writing this, or just farmed it out and let them slap his name on it. It really does not seem like his writing or style (granted I only watched literally 15 minutes of S5).

It's just too bizarre, you just don't go from what the first 3 seasons were to what season 5 is when nothing really changed with the "team." He has about the same writing and directing crew. There's somewhat of a drop-off in the actors for S5, but most of them have at least done somewhat non-retarded stuff before. I'm just at a loss.

He's either a writer that did tons of revisions before, and didn't this time; or he just quit caring/started huffing his own farts; or something weird is going on.

It being this timeline, I assume he'll only make shitty stuff from now on, same as everyone else, I'm just curious as to why or what happened.

 

[Autistic Orson Welles]

Maybe he is super-involved in the Alien project, and either didn't spend any time writing this, or just farmed it out and let them slap his name on it. It really does not seem like his writing or style (granted I only watched literally 15 minutes of S5).

I agree. If you check the writing credits, it's clear that Season 4 went through a ton of rewrites, with multiple different writing teams being brought in to try to fix issues. In other words: other people wrote the season, but they fucked it up, and he had to step in and fix it. That, plus bad editing to get around COVID limitations, seemed pretty clearly to blame for why the season didn't work.

But there were some things about 4 that still made no sense. Like: why are the characters so weak compared to other seasons? Why do they monologue so much? And why is it political, when Fargo was always just about normal Midwesterners who get caught up in organized crime? How did such a good writer make such obvious mistakes?

Hawley has most of the writing credits again to himself in S5, but the characters are still bad, there are still lots of moralistic monologues, and the themes are overtly political. That's bad enough and makes it feel nothing like Fargo, but what really kill it is that the whole thing is just lazy.

In last night's episode, the evil lolbertarian (lmao) sheriff's son opens fire on a state trooper... who has been looking for an excuse to arrest him. Rather than call for backup or do anything that makes any sense, the state trooper just shrugs it off and does nothing instead.

???

Earlier on, Dot is kidnapped by Jon Hamm in broad daylight. She decides to not fight back until she's in private for no reason. She could have shouted, "Help! I'm being raped!" and been saved, but then the show would have ended two episodes early.

?????????

The entire seventh episode is a weird, pointless monologue on domestic violence (idk if u knew this but domestic violence is BAD!). Then it's revealed to all have been a dream anyway.

????????????????????

The whole season has been like this. The things that happen make no sense, even in the context of the world. There's a scene where the son wanders around a suburban neighborhood with his AR-15, after shooting a dude through a window, and apparently has no concern whatsoever that he might be seen. And he isn't seen!

Which is why I think you're right that he didn't bother with editing or revision this time. Eight episodes in, I'm pretty confident that:

1. He didn't care that much. He needed to make another season, but didn't have any major ideas and was focusing on other projects. So he slapped something together as fast as possible and had them film a first draft. The fact that almost nothing works or makes sense was thus irrelevant.
   1. He's famous enough and successful enough now that everyone surrounding him is a sycophant, so obvious flaws weren't recognized.
   2. This season often feels like something written by ChatGPT. It's so disjointed and full of so many coincidences that I truly would not be surprised if this comes out.
   3. It's lazy. The political theming is lazy. The scenes are lazily put together. Coincidences drive the plot.
   4. There's no attempt at dark humor at all. I can't even think of what could be misconstrued as comedy.
2. Being a name in Hollywood has driven him insane and now he knows nothing but GloboHomo faggotry. He wants to capture the current thing in his writing, and he's been convinced that advocating against Trump is his solemn duty as a screenwriter.
   1. Maybe he somehow sees advocacy as his duty due to the platform he's built up.
   2. He wants to fit in with the other moralfags in Hollywood.
3. He's lost a producer or some kind of content editor since Season 3 (could be interesting to check credits)
4. He's a huge boomer and extremely out of touch with modern technology and ideology, despite wanting to fit in.
5. Maybe he really has just run out of ideas.
6. Something else?? Maybe he has brain damage???

I never liked Legion, but his novel Before the Fall is truly excellent. It's one of the only books I've ever read in one sitting. It's hard for me to believe that he's suddenly a hack now. Part of me still wants to believe that Alien will be good, because he's just stopped caring about Fargo.

But I really doubt it at this point. I think we can expect lots of lectures and monologues about the evils of capitalism and an obvious Donald Trump stand-in at Weyland-Yutani, and it'll probably be complete shit.

 

[NewFagWhore]

Alright i just binged all released episodes of season 5 and heres my autistic analysis:

Fargo formula starting from the movie up until and including season 3 is very simple. With some deviations ofc.

1. Everyday Midwestern retard (movies protagonist/lester/jesse plemons + spidermans wife/obi wan kenobi end up in some shit because they decided to go against their fate and change their boring midwestern lives.

2. They have to deal with organized crime

3. There is a pure and/or chaotic evil element (peter stormere/lorne malvo/hanzo+mike milligan/V.M. Varga that serve as representation of judgement upon the main characters and others for their transgressions against fate.
For example, malvo gets involved with
Bemidji because Lester secretly wants someone to kill his bully and change his life for him. Ewan McGregors first character invites Varga into his life cause he doesnt wanna let fate take course and let his business sink, while Ewan McGregor #2 is just a jealous bitch.

4. There is a very human and grounded “good” character that overcomes aforementioned demon tier evils. (See: every cop character)

5. At the end, bumbling midwestern retard gets punished for their increasing amount of misdeeds they committed throughout the show as a way of redemption. (Lester, Plemons, Both McGregors and the movies main character all die)

6. There is an interesting supernatural phenomena (IN THE BACKGROUND) that works to keep the balance between good and evil or is highly metaphorical.

Most Fargo stories are fables about how sometimes having a MID life isnt so bad, and maybe you should stay in your lane.(interesting coincidence that all of it takes place in the MIDwest)

Ok now on to seaaon five. after watching season four and seeing how howley absolutely wasted one of his best characters, Sheriff Deafy, i didnt have high hopes for it but i still watched it, mostly because i like john hamm and wanna see him in something more than mad men.

HOLY FUCK does it not hit ANY of the things i listed above, not ONE.
Lets take a look at each one.

1. Except the husband, there is no real everyday midwestern character. instead there is a woman who knows kung fu and guerilla warfare for no reason, she is not overstepping her boundries and ending up in scenarios she doesnt belong in, nope, in fact, the wacky scenarios she ends up in are actually from her past life and she is a PRO at home alone boobie traps to own the chud home invaders.

2. There is literally no organized crime lol.

3. There is no otherworldly pure evil that stalks behind every shot, like malvo and varga, instead everyone (except superwoman ofc) is just a different shade of bad. Speaking of bad, is there ANY likable character in the season? Dannish was the only one IMO and he died in the stupidest way possible

4. Cop characters serve no purpose, black man guy cop was not even mentioned for like 3-4 episodes and officer mystery meat is just there to remind you that you are indeed watching a FARGO product.

5. You can bet your ass the woman is not getting any comeuppance at the end of the show, she lies and cheats and manipulates everyone around her, including her child, almost gets her husband that she LOVES4REAL killed, assaults a man with cancer and then gets him murdered, abandons her child to a woman with 200k debt that she barely knows etc. and it is after all of this that
The show tries to lecture us that she is a VICTIM and its ok because john hamm beat her up 10 years ago.
Btw Lester did all of the things above and it was used to show how he has degraded as a human, meanwhile dorothy/nadine is a TIGER for doing it.

6. There is no supernatural element, not to tip the balance, not as a metaphor or an allegory, nope. BUT there IS just a literally 500 year old dude from wales who says weird things and was a literal scape goat in his village (btw this is somehow gonna play a big part in the last 2 episodes you just watch)

All in all, this is not Fargo at all, its not even a fable about anything, its just a lecture about how… domestic violence is… LE BAD?!

TL;DR - implied tranny children, don draper nipple rings and a cameo by DOTARD BLUMPF is what youre getting when watching Fargo S5.

 

[ProfDongs]

I regret saying that this show improved with every season, but 1-3 was still just an escalation of quality in my mind. If 4 completely got rid of the young black girl it would have been a much better series without having to radically alter anything. The major problem was they got rid of all the interesting characters very quickly or did next to nothing with them. The examples I think of are the main Irish guy only really getting an episode dedicated to him with young Mike and then being killed off right away, and then the carrot eating sheriff basically showing up to be murdered by the lesbian abo black couple cemented it. Not even gonna bother to check out 5 after reading all this.

 

[NewFagWhore]

I regret saying that this show improved with every season, but 1-3 was still just an escalation of quality in my mind. If 4 completely got rid of the young black girl it would have been a much better series without having to radically alter anything. The major problem was they got rid of all the interesting characters very quickly or did next to nothing with them. The examples I think of are the main Irish guy only really getting an episode dedicated to him with young Mike and then being killed off right away, and then the carrot eating sheriff basically showing up to be murdered by the lesbian abo black couple cemented it. Not even gonna bother to check out 5 after reading all this.

To be honest even with sassy niggergirl season 4 couldve been so great if it was based around marshal deafy taking down everything he deems immoral, it wouldve been a good twist on the chaotic evil characters i mentioned in my previous post but instead have a chaotic good that lingers throughout the show and fucks shit up.

Season 1 could be interpreted as the devil (malvo) running amock earth, i wouldve loved to see a rogue angel type character running amock as well, but instead we got niggers vs wops in season 4.

 

[Shamefur Dispray]

I've only seen a few episodes from season 5 and wow what a huge huge huuuuuge piece of shit. The show wastes several excellent actors on one of the most poorly written things I've seen in awhile, everyone is either a retard or the show just bends itself over backwards to let them do whatever the hell they want. The main character escapes her situation and instead of running away to another side of the country or even to a different country she just hides out in the next state over. And this is done with her knowledge that her ex-husband has the ability to easily find her if she enters the police database.
There's also way too many characters for a plot this thin, And any of the characters that might be interesting seem to be stolen wholesale from the Cohen Brother's films. For example Ole Munch the sin-eater guy is just a composite of Peter Stormare's character from Fargo and the biker from Raising Arizona or Anton Chigurh. I know the Cohens are producing the show but ripping off your own work is still fucking lazy.
Don't even get me started on the blatant political and social messaging. The second Jon Hamm's character referenced the Bible I knew where it was going.

Avoid this shit like the plague if you haven't already

 

[Odd Opossum]

In last night's episode, the evil lolbertarian (lmao) sheriff's son opens fire on a state trooper... who has been looking for an excuse to arrest him. Rather than call for backup or do anything that makes any sense, the state trooper just shrugs it off and does nothing instead.

One of my biggest issues with this season is that. Could you imagine if in Trump era America, the FBI got into an armed standoff with a sheriff's department that was being aided by a militia group that (potentially) devolved into a full scale shootout? Crime stories are almost impossible to do nowadays, and goofy stuff like this is why.

 

[Kit Marz]

I just binged seasons 1-3 after not watching any of the show before. I really liked seasons 1 and 2 and thought that season 3 was fine. I didn't really care for Carrie Coon's character, where I did like the cops in the first two seasons and I think that's why I didn't like it as much. Based on what others have said, is it even worth watching seasons 4 and 5?

 

[Your Starter for 10]

Glad you liked the first 3, and really surprised you didn't like Carrie Coon's character, as I really thought she made S3. She was an actual fucking mom which you see in exactly zero shows these days (granted, there were still some 'magical TV kid' parts where like there's always someone to sit or pick them up, but you kind of have to just get over that for a TV show); also not a total slut OR a shrieking harpy, trying to be a Nazi prude. She did have the thing going where all the male cops were either assholes (Shea Wigham) or useless (every single other one), but I just read that as more of a throwback to the movie than anything nefarious, especially since the first two seasons were pretty even-handed in their treatment of male cops.

I skipped 4 and 5, my reasoning is above, and it seems like that decision is pretty justified considering the comments of those here with the fortitude to stomach them.

 

[Autistic Orson Welles]

Episode 9 of Season 5 is political fanfiction written by a man who seemingly gets all of his news from NPR. It's so far removed from reality that it's like one of those fake American action movies made by Europeans doing really bad accents. Meanwhile there is not even a vague semblance of a plot left at this point, and none of the characters behave in ways that make any sense.

I'm honestly floored right now at how bad it is.

 

[Super Hans v2]

I just binged seasons 1-3 after not watching any of the show before. I really liked seasons 1 and 2 and thought that season 3 was fine. I didn't really care for Carrie Coon's character, where I did like the cops in the first two seasons and I think that's why I didn't like it as much. Based on what others have said, is it even worth watching seasons 4 and 5?

I had more or less the same opinion as you as when they came out. 1 was top-tier TV, 2 was great, 3 had to grow on me as it went on, the best scenes made it worth the others that dragged on.

4 is horseshit for a lot of reasons, and for 5 I'm wondering why it's in the anthology. If it wasn't for the accents it wouldn't have any connective tissue with the rest of the series/movie. Even Jon Hamm can't save this garbage.

 

[Pomniman]

Never watched it but heard good things about this show. Sad to hear that it fell prey to The Gay. Hollywood niggers just can't help themselves.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Lukas gage is awful

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Speaking on the series is general, I like the "true story" line. At least how I see it, it's technically true (the best kind of truth) as it is a story. And gives you something to think of as to why non fictional events cause us to react differently even when they are so small scale and in nowhere that they might as well be a different planet.

 

[sleeperagent]

fargo should've got cancelled after season 3 because the shit just gets worst and worst each season.

I'm honestly floored right now at how bad it is.

Season 5 in one sentence: "masculine, white, christian man bad"