US Arrests at Chabad’s iconic headquarters after attempt to fill secret tunnel

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It took months, perhaps years for a small crew of Lubavitchers to dig a secret passageway underneath the famed headquarters of the Chabad movement. They would not let it be filled so easily.

The New York Police Department was called Monday to 770 Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn’s Crown Heights neighborhood, where a number of Chabad students — most in their teens and early twenties — mounted a last stand against construction crews called to fill in the tunnel connecting the synagogue at that location to the defunct Chabad mikvah around the corner.

In videos circulating on Chabad community news sources and social media, Lubavitchers can be seen ripping down the wood paneling on the south wall of the synagogue, revealing a cavernous concrete space about 20 feet wide underneath the women’s section. Several young men were sitting or standing in the space — apparently to prevent it from being filled — as scores of others watched or recorded video on their phones. The length of the tunnel is unclear from the videos.

NYPD eventually made 10 arrests, according to community news outlet CrownHeights.info. Video showed several men in Lubavitcher garb being led out, their wrists bound with zip ties.

Locked in litigation​

The chaos at 770 — the former home of the late Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson — was the culmination of a controversy that began when the tunnel was discovered in early December, and the latest chapter in a multi-year battle between the Chabad-Lubavitch movement and synagogue leadership for control of the iconic building.

Chabad-Lubavitcher movement spokesperson Rabbi Motti Seligson declined to comment.

It was unclear what motivated the creation of the tunnel and why some students reacted so strongly to the arrival of a cement truck Monday morning to fill it. Reports said the people behind the tunnel’s excavation — it was unconfirmed who that was, but sources tended to agree they began within the last year or two — had hoped to “expand” 770, but it was not obvious how the tunnel accomplished that.

A video posted on the CrownHeights.info Instagram in December showed a dark, dirt-walled crawl space allegedly beginning in the recesses of the former Chabad Women’s Mikvah, located at 1506 Union Street. Large dirt mounds obstruct much of the basement.

After the tunnel’s discovery, the leadership of Beis Chayeinu — the Chabad synagogue that meets in 770 — hired structural engineers to determine the extent of the damage and the safety issue it posed, and eventually moved to fill it.


According to Haredi news source Collive.com, the students who tried to stop the filling of the tunnel were mostly from Israel and associated with Chabad Messianism — whose adherents believe that Schneerson, the sixth Lubavitcher Rebbe, was the Messiah. The Chabad-Lubavitch movement publicly disavows those beliefs.

But the movement, despite years of litigation, does not control 770 Eastern Parkway, though it owns the title. It has been locked in litigation with Beis Chayeinu over control of the building for decades.
 
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I am fine with the tunnels existing as long as the rabbi is forced to have this Blair througout the entire thing
 
The baby chair in the room full of garbage? Who knows, but they have huge families with like 6-10 kids each so there would be a lot of baby shit left over, and renting a storage unit is... well, see above.
I don't know man, I've been on many a construction site and there was nary a baby to be seen.
I mean, we weren't digging a secret tunnel but who knows.
 
The official story is they were expanding the synagogue to reach an unused womens baths, but that's retarded and complete bullshit. If that was true why did they also dig out several secret escape routes to scatter like rats?

It's even more hilariously bullshit when they give the fucking address for the mikveh and you do a little measuring...

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In a nutshell, the short story is these tunnels were probably dug in the last few years by students of the Chabad Yeshiva (a bulk of whom aren't even American) to circumvent covid restrictions, much to the chagrin of the Chabad sect who actually own the building. They're basically two different entities at this point and they've really been butting heads the last 30 years over stupid bullshit. It's pretty much a pissing contest over who has the rights to the building. @wtfNeedSignUp or @EyeGuy probably have more patience to explain.
Ah, I love Jew-on-Jew slapfights.
Anyway, regular Chabad is blaming this on the meshichistim (who they swear up and down aren't the majority despite them plainly being the majority), the meshichistim are blaming this on the Tzfatim, and the Tzfatim are blaming it on a group from Rishon Letzion.

The last time a hasidic fight has been this entertaining was when the Aroinis and Zalis (the two feuding Satmar groups) went at each other with fire extinguishers on Shemini Atzeret a while back:
To my fellow Kiwis, what are the chances of this being A. Secret Jewish Rape Tunnels or B. Jews Jewing Jews?
I somehow feel the need to point out that the blanket term "da Jewz" does not really apply here. If you've never met the NYC Ultra Orthodox Community such as the Hassidim or these clowns, they are to Judaism what the Westborro Baptist Church is to Christianity. It's said that jews have higher IQs than everyone else. Not this group. In fact by segregating and issolating this type group out yours raises the net IQ of your group by several points.

Growing up my jewish friends and coworkers used to cringe at the sight of the funny hats, beards and forelocks. At least the insane Holy Roller Evangelical Christians tend to be polite while being annoying. Not so much this crew.

For those thinking this is some sort of nefarious rape dungeon or similar. These clowns really are not capable of thinking that far ahead. Consequences is not part of these assholes thought process.
Shit, don't the tunnelers think some Rabbi of theirs is the Messiah or some other lolcow-tier nonsense? This is one group of idiot Jews getting into a fight with another group of some slightly less idiotic Jews.
Hope they played Space Hulk. Because control over tight spaces is an important skill to survive.
Unfortunately Metallica would sue the NYPD if they dared to play the proper music for this situation.
I rule the midnight air
The destroyer
Born! I shall soon be there
Deadly mass
I creep the steps and floor
Final Darkness!
Blood!
Lamb blood painted door
I shall pass!


And then the fucking cat knocks over the stereo system, ruining the fun.
do any of them look like they would pay full price for a brand new mattress
You should have just stopped here. A Jew would never pay full price for anything!
 
With what X-ray vision?

Been speaking to chabad friends and tldr 770 is too small and needs expansion for a growing community, these guys decided to do the expansion themselves without permission.


Post a Jewish source where it allows child sacrifice, I can post at least 4 sources that explicitly forbid it. If you're going to bring up the matzah blood thing, blood isn't kosher and matzah needs to be cooked within 17 minutes or it's not kosher, it would be impossible to cook kosher matzah with blood.

Beat me to it.

Here, have a review by (Jewish) Israel Shamir hosted on the website of (Jewish) Ron Unz of the book by (Jewish) author Ariel Toaff, reviewing the evidence around Simon of Trent, et al, and finding it to be credible after all.


And now we come back to Dr Ariel Toaff. While going through the papers of the trial, he made a staggering discovery: instead of being dictated by the zealous investigators under torture, the confessions of the killers contained material totally unknown to the Italian churchmen or police. The killers belonged to the small and withdrawn Ashkenazi community, they practiced their own rites, quite different from those used by the native Italian Jews; these rites were faithfully reproduced in their confessions, though they were not known to the Crime Squad of the day. “These liturgical formulas in Hebrew with a strong anti-Christian tone cannot be projections of the judges who could not know these prayers, which didn’t even belong to Italian rites but to the Ashkenazi tradition,” Toaff wrote. A confession is of value only if it contains some true and verifiable details of the crime the police did not know of. This iron rule of criminal investigation was observed in Trent trials.

Human beings do unspeakable things to each other all the time, as any casual user of this website can attest. The part that offends me most of all in all the BS philosemitism whitewashing of history these days is that we are meant to believe that Jews are uniquely exempt from this human trait.
 
It's an abandoned mikveh they were using as an entry into the tunnel. The abandoned mikveh is like the otherside of the block.

A video posted on the CrownHeights.info Instagram in December showed a dark, dirt-walled crawl space allegedly beginning in the recesses of the former Chabad Women’s Mikvah, located at 1506 Union Street. Large dirt mounds obstruct much of the basement.
 
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The baby chair in the room full of garbage? Who knows, but they have huge families with like 6-10 kids each so there would be a lot of baby shit left over, and renting a storage unit is... well, see above.
Jewish child rapists aren't going to haul the stroller down to a hole in the ground to keep the 'rape baby' comfortable before raping it to death.
They'd flip it for $50-$60 dollars or keep it somewhere for their children. So I tend to agree. People throw weird shit into basements in cities.


Sadly fake. The OG posts do not exist on his twitter I checked.
 
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Human beings do unspeakable things to each other all the time, as any casual user of this website can attest. The part that offends me most of all in all the BS philosemitism whitewashing of history these days is that we are meant to believe that Jews are uniquely exempt from this human trait.
I'm perfectly willing to accept that some small groups of Jews did fucked up stuff. The Frankist Sabbateans were a thing after all and Pope Clement the XIV explicitly said that all ritual murder cases outside of Simon of Trent/Andreas Oxner were false. He then made it clear that those incidents don't reflect on the Jews as a whole. Two centuries before Simon of Trent Pope Gregory X defended Jews from the blood libel.

Gregory, bishop, servant of the servants of God, extends greetings and the apostolic benediction to the beloved sons in Christ, the faithful Christians, to those here now and to those in the future. Even as it is not allowed to the Jews in their assemblies presumptuously to undertake for themselves more than that which is permitted them by law, even so they ought not to suffer any disadvantage in those [privileges] which have been granted them. Although they prefer to persist in their stubbornness rather than to recognize the words of their prophets and the mysteries of the Scriptures, and thus to arrive at a knowledge of Christian faith and salvation; nevertheless, inasmuch as they have made an appeal for our protection and help, we therefore admit their petition and offer them the shield of our protection through the clemency of Christian piety. In so doing we follow in the footsteps of our predecessors of blessed memory, the popes of Rome Calixtus, Eugene, Alexander, Clement, Celestine, Innocent, and Honorius....

Inasmuch as thejews are not able to bear witness against the Christians, we decree furthermore that the testimony of Christians against Jews shall not be valid unless there is among these Christians some Jew who is there for the purpose of offering testimony.

Since it happens occasionally that some Christians lose their Christian children, the Jews are accused by their enemies of secretly carrying off and killing these same Christian children and of making sacrifices of the heart and blood of these very children. It happens, too, that the parents of these children or some other Christian enemies of these Jews, secretly hide these very children in order that they may be able to injure these Jews, and in order that they may be able to extort from them a certain amount of money by redeeming them from their straits.

And most falsely do these Christians claim that the Jews have secretly and furtively carried away these children and killed them, and that the Jews offer sacrifice from the heart and blood of these children, since their law in this matter precisely and expressly forbids Jews to sacrifice, eat, or drink the blood, or to eat the flesh of animals having claws. This has been demonstrated many times at our court by Jews converted to the Christian faith: nevertheless very many Jews are often seized and detained unjustly because of this. We decree, therefore, that Christians need not be obeyed against Jews in a case or situation of this type, and we order that Jews seized under such a silly pretext be freed from imprisonment, and that they shall not be arrested henceforth on such a miserable pretext, unless-which we do not believe-they be caught in the commission of the crime. We decree that no Christian shall stir up anything new against them, but that they should be maintained in that status and position in which they were in the time of our predecessors, from antiquity till now.​

My issue is projecting those deeds onto modern Jews who weren't part of these small cults. I don't know of any Jewish sect or modern cult that would sacrifice humans, even the Jewish taliban don't go that far. You're talking about people who are so strict that they make up new kosher rules for themselves based on technicalities that would be considered curiosity edge cases 200 years ago.
 
(Fun fact: Chabad is a supremacist cult.)
Tanya is a great read but it's not the nicest towards non jews

Not Lubavitchers, that's for sure, no matter how hard they proselytize. Do you believe there is only one kind of Orthodox jew in NYC? Satmars are the largest, Bobovers are also fairly numerous. There's also several others. I've lived in NYC, and around the Orthodox, long enough to learn enough Yiddish to speak it (somewhat), and the Lubavitch are not looked upon favorably by the other Orthodox.
ofc there's more than one kind of orthodox jew in NYC, the ones that I've interacted most with have been chabad and satmar followed by yeshivish. Generally they're cordial and participate in each others prayers/rituals/eat food together.

Found the Chabadnik lol

Let me give you a word of advice; you don't have to defend other jews to the goys especially if they're skeevy jews. That does more harm than good, in case you hadn't noticed.
Not Chabad but I am biased towards them thanks to their great kiruv work and the Rebbes role in advocating for the Jews of the Soviet union.

That's good advice, my issue is more about how this child sacrifice libel will cause idiots to apply it to the religion in general. I've tried to make it very clear that I view the yechi people who did this as retards and more trying to explain why the situation happened.
 
My issue is projecting those deeds onto modern Jews who weren't part of these small cults. I don't know of any Jewish sect or modern cult that would sacrifice humans, even the Jewish taliban don't go that far. You're talking about people who are so strict that they make up new kosher rules for themselves based on technicalities that would be considered curiosity edge cases 200 years ago.
I think most people don't really believe is "all jews" and most of us know that are many different sects that believe different things. But the thing is that many of them are too tribalist about their own group. Just look at LOTT: either she's really stupid or she thinks we're that stupid. Here is the irony: she linked the ADL for people to sign up something against anti-semitism, and she's now doing exactly the same thing the ADL did about Leo Frank.
 
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