US Army Sees Sharp Decline in White Recruits - Not dying for Isaeal is what Hitler would have wanted Goyim

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The Army's recruiting of white soldiers has dropped significantly in the last half decade, according to internal data reviewed by Military.com, a decline that accounts for much of the service's historic recruitment slump that has become the subject of increasing concern for Army leadership and Capitol Hill.

The shift in demographics for incoming recruits would be irrelevant to war planners, except it coincides with an overall shortfall of about 10,000 recruits for the Army in 2023 as the service missed its target of 65,000 new soldiers. That deficit is straining the force as it has ramped up its presence in the Pacific and Europe: A smaller Army is taking on a larger mission and training workload than during the peak of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan -- leading to soldiers being away from home now more than ever.

A total of 44,042 new Army recruits were categorized by the service as white in 2018, but that number has fallen consistently each year to a low of 25,070 in 2023, with a 6% dip from 2022 to 2023 being the most significant drop. No other demographic group has seen such a precipitous decline, though there have been ups and downs from year to year.

In 2018, 56.4% of new recruits were categorized as white. In 2023, that number had fallen to 44%. During that same five-year period, Black recruits have gone from 20% to 24% of the pool, and Hispanic recruits have risen from 17% to 24%, with both groups seeing largely flat recruiting totals but increasing as a percentage of incoming soldiers as white recruiting has fallen.

The rate at which white recruitment has fallen far outpaces nationwide demographic shifts, data experts and Army officials interviewed by Military.com noted. They don't see a single cause to the recruiting problem, but pointed to a confluence of issues for Army recruiting, including partisan scrutiny of the service, a growing obesity epidemic and an underfunded public education system.

Internally, some Army planners are alarmed over the data trends, but see it as a minefield to navigate given increasing partisan attacks against the military for its efforts to recruit and support a diverse force, according to interviews with several service officials.

The Army declined Military.com's request to share its regional recruiting data, which could show what specific parts of the country are struggling. Military.com had seen internal Army numbers that suggested that the shift in demographics was even more dramatic, but when presented with those figures, Army public affairs officials insisted that they were wrong and provided updated statistics included in this article, while blaming a system coding error.

The updated data provided by the Army did not break down recruit demographics by both race and gender at the same time, meaning that it's unclear whether the sharp decline is worse among white women or white men, or if the drop was the same for both groups.

Collapse of Men in the Labor Market

Though the recruiting numbers reviewed by Military.com point to a stable gender divide for incoming soldiers, 83% male in 2018 versus 82% in 2023, the disproportionate number of men donning the uniform means that a disruption to men seeking work in the U.S. can have a major impact on the military services. That exact dynamic is at play, according to civilian experts, as men have been disappearing from labor market statistics.

"Men have been in trouble in the workforce for two generations. The greatest risk of being a labor dropout is being a native-born, low education, unmarried guy," said Nicholas Eberstadt, an economist who studies demographics at the American Enterprise Institute. "Like with any other big historic change, it's kind of hard to attribute to a single magic bullet."

According to Army officials, recruiting efforts are starting to broadly mimic the trends in the private sector, though it's unclear why that would particularly impact white recruiting.

"What we're seeing is a reflection of society; what we know less of is what is driving all of these things," one Army official told Military.com. "There is no widely accepted cause."

Part of those labor trends is men in their prime working age of 25 to 54 years old detaching from the labor market for decades, though that age group is slightly older than prime recruiting age.

The work rate for men in that age group has dropped from 94% in 1948 to 86% in 2023, according to Eberstadt's landmark study "Men Without Work." That group accounts for roughly six million men who are unemployed and not looking for work, which generally isn't captured by unemployment stats. It's a bit of a mystery to data experts, with no single explanation like drug addiction or women's increased participation in the workforce explaining the sharp drop.

Among other problems, opioid overdoses have increasingly pummeled the U.S. every year, with 80,000 deaths in 2021 and about 75% of overdose victims being white and many in their twenties, according to data compiled by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

And some Army officials interviewed by Military.com pointed to struggles by recruits from the South to meet service standards, though there are no indications that recruits from the South are disproportionately white. A 2018 study published in the Journal of Public Health Management and Practice found and had the lowest median levels of fitness compared to troops from other parts of the country.

Nationally, the South has the highest prevalence of obesity, something researchers have attributed to a slew of factors, including restrictions on access to health care, high-quality fitness facilities and healthy food. Large swaths of the South also have relatively low household incomes -- putting easy access to fitness training and healthy foods even further out of reach.

Partisan Attacks

Another Army official pointed to partisan attacks from conservative lawmakers and media, which has an overwhelmingly white audience. Those groups have used the military as a partisan cudgel against the Biden administration, lambasting the services for being "woke," or so preoccupied with liberal values that they have abandoned their warfighting priorities. In most cases, those attacks have zeroed in on the services being more inclusive for women, service members from racial minority groups and LGBTQ+ troops.

"No, the young applicants don't care about this stuff. But the older people in their life do who have a lot of influence ... parents, coaches, pastors," one Army official told Military.com. "There's a level of prestige in parts of conservative America with service that has degraded. Now, you can say you don't want to join, for whatever reason, or bad-mouth the service without any cultural guilt associated for the first time in those areas."

The Army has made a few passing attempts to court those cultural influencers in hopes they might be more willing to recommend service to young Americans. This includes a high-profile oath of enlistment ceremony on "Fox and Friends," an oped in The Wall Street Journal from service secretaries pitching service, and a return to a nostalgic recruiting slogan while heavily investing in advertising on cable television.

Often, those "woke" critiques include few specifics. Right-wing pundits and lawmakers have routinely blasted the Army for a 2022 recruiting ad, titled "The Calling," featuring a real-life soldier who has two mothers and participated in Pride events. The Army, in producing ads like that one, has seen data showing that LGBTQ+ rights are considered a major priority among Gen Z, the demographic that the service needs to court to build its ranks.

The service has since distanced itself from that ad.

"I don't know the genesis of it. Or why they. ... 'The Calling' was before me," Agnes Schaefer, assistant secretary of the Army for manpower and reserve affairs, told lawmakers in December, referencing the ad when pressed on the reasoning for it.

Parallels with Civilian College Enrollments

A similar demographic trend to what the Army is experiencing has been popping up at colleges across the country. Between 2010 and 2021, white undergraduate and graduate college enrollment rates fell from 43% to 38%, according to the most recent federal data from the National Center for Education Statistics. That dip coincided with fewer men enrolling, with male enrollment decreasing from 38% to 33% over the same period of time.

Higher education has also faced fierce partisan attacks from right-wing lawmakers and partisan media, with critiques of the U.S. higher education system being potent ways to gin up the Republican base.

Men now account for about 40% of undergraduate students, after seeing a steady decline since the 1970s. That decline has run broadly parallel to a decline in job opportunities for low-skill labor and manufacturing, meaning that as men are becoming less educated as a demographic, the pool of jobs they qualify for becomes increasingly shallow.

One of the key pitches for military service is numerous scholarships available to service members during or after service, most notably the GI Bill -- broadly seen on Capitol Hill as among the most successful federal programs. But if college is becoming less relevant to white males, that pitch for service could become less enticing moving forward.

Meanwhile, the Army is seeking structural changes in how it recruits, including new recruiting career fields for soldiers aimed at putting the right talent into boots to hopefully help fill the ranks. Even with recent attempts to boost its recruiting force and slick new marketing ads, it likely faces an uphill battle to overcome culture war issues that service leaders believe are, at a minimum, exacerbating recruiting problems.

But the drop in white recruitment has baffled Army staff and isn't easily explained by any one particular factor, and no parallel demographic trends in the civilian sector are perfect comparisons.

Without proper context, some officials say, Army marketing efforts face a difficult future as the service continues to face partisan culture war attacks and the pool of eligible recruits continues to shrink.

"There are all sorts of things going on," Eberstadt said. "It's almost like a naturally made Rorschach test."
 
Second, immediately double the base pay of pay grades E-1 to E-5 and O-1 to O-3. These are the people at the sharp end of the spear. 50% base pay raise for pay grades E-6 and E-7 and O-4 and O-5. 25% base pay raise for pay grades E-8 and E-9 and O-6 and above. Third, treat all military members who have completed basic enlisted/officer training like adults and professionals instead of little children. Believe it or not, for some years the AF did treat people like adults and professionals, made the AF a great place to serve.
This is a big part, I was fucking shocked at how little it pays to get psychologically and physically shit on constantly while playing "Dodge the bullet" and eating and drinking subpar food and water on tour for uncle sam. I wouldn't even come in on a saturday for what a good 75 percent of them make.
 
The Army knows quite well it's gone too 'woke'. The 'Emma' ad helped drive a stake into recruiting the group that can take the hill. Emma can barely walk up that hill, without equipment. John, who can take the hill, stays home. works, goes to school, lives his life. Emma, who is pinned down at the bottom of the hill under fire, prays for artillery, helicopter gunship, or Air Force ground attack support, which may or may not come.

This has been coming for a long time now, since the Obama regime at least. Remember when the Army stated their number one priority as a service was 'lactation support'. And I'll never forget the overweight, cigarette-puffing female 'paratrooper' of over a quarter-century ago.

I no longer encourage anyone to join the military except to get training not available or affordable in civilian life. Get the training, do your term of service, get out.

What can fix the problem? Eliminate 'wokeness' in the military. Eliminate every single DEI-related civilian and military manpower billet and change them to warfighting/warfighting support billets. There are undoubtedly many, many more of these billets than might be imagined. Second, immediately double the base pay of pay grades E-1 to E-5 and O-1 to O-3. These are the people at the sharp end of the spear. 50% base pay raise for pay grades E-6 and E-7 and O-4 and O-5. 25% base pay raise for pay grades E-8 and E-9 and O-6 and above. Third, treat all military members who have completed basic enlisted/officer training like adults and professionals instead of little children. Believe it or not, for some years the AF did treat people like adults and professionals, made the AF a great place to serve.

I remember an overweight senior enlisted female paratrooper when I was on Fort Bragg...
 
The only thing separating Biden's America from Putin's Russia and Xi's China is the idolatry of melanin and buggery.
Point of contention - as far as we can tell, despite being plunderers themselves Putin and Xi and their inner circles actually want their respective nations to remain a going concern for the next twenty years, and aren't just concerned with the stonks line going up next quarter.
 
Point of contention - as far as we can tell, despite being plunderers themselves Putin and Xi and their inner circles actually want their respective nations to remain a going concern for the next twenty years, and aren't just concerned with the stonks line going up next quarter.
yeah at the very least it does seem like leaving some sort of legacy is in the cards for them. The guys in charge here don't even pretend to care they have that yuppie boomer mindset of "whatever it won't be my problem when I'm dead"

its sad to if our leaders had a modicum of morals and self-respect they could have easily used the post-soviet collapse to establish themselves as leaders to be remembered like the founding fathers with the wealth and technology that was at their finger tips but instead they brought in troon children and spent the last years of their life eternally seething about orange man to the point of destroying the country to "own" him
 
So, blacks and hispanics aren't having any problem getting recruited according to their own data and interpretation of that data. Numbers described as "flat" and increased proportionally only because whitey is dropping out, as asked by every retarded middle management golem that thinks they know what's best for the military.

However...
The rate at which white recruitment has fallen far outpaces nationwide demographic shifts, data experts and Army officials interviewed by Military.com noted. They don't see a single cause to the recruiting problem, but pointed to a confluence of issues for Army recruiting, including partisan scrutiny of the service, a growing obesity epidemic and an underfunded public education system.
1) I'm sorry but the notion that an obesity epidemic doesn't affect blacks or hispanics is fucking insane. Source: I have eyes.
2) If one of the most funded yet least performing education systems in the world hasn't seen that recruitment dip affect hispanics or blacks, two groups almost universally asserted as being under-served by public education for various reasons such as "I'd rather gangbang bruh" or "no habla ingles", then I don't think that has jack shit to do with white recruitment, but nice try.

Not that they don't 100% know what happened though:
"I don't know the genesis of it. Or why they. ... 'The Calling' was before me," Agnes Schaefer, assistant secretary of the Army for manpower and reserve affairs, told lawmakers in December, referencing the ad when pressed on the reasoning for it.
If you thought this wasn't part of the problem, you wouldn't have a woman running scared from that question. emot-allears.gif

Also this nugget, just...🤌💋
Right-wing pundits and lawmakers have routinely blasted the Army for a 2022 recruiting ad, titled "The Calling," featuring a real-life soldier who has two mothers and participated in Pride events. The Army, in producing ads like that one, has seen data showing that LGBTQ+ rights are considered a major priority among Gen Z, the demographic that the service needs to court to build its ranks.
Newsflash faggot, the part of Gen Z that might want to join the service would be doing so to GET AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE YOU ARE TRYING TO ATTRACT RIGHT NOW.

The strong correlation between those in Gen Z that "care deeply" about LGBTQ "rights" that also respond to polls with being people that only want to passively throw money at people and tweet for a living, ask literally any tankie grifter after adminstering some truth serum (or just using your brain and working backwards, like a human with intellect).

I can't even blame Gen Z for that one either, they just copied Millenials that were doing the exact same thing.

Maybe the military should start a patreon and sell service themed furry porn or some shit, it might be more productive than this current strategy as at least they'd be catering TO the demographic they're trying to court. :story:
 
Let's hope we don't have a conflict that requires our Army. Our morale is currently declining with no hope of reform. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if there's infighting in our military while our adversaries laugh in our faces.
 
sure you are goy , the selective service contract you signed definitely won't be used against you. and when the election is over you definitely wont be in iran dying for the motherland


this is why the nation hates you
I will go to prison for murder (of draft officer) before I go fight an overseas war.
 
I will go to prison for murder (of draft officer) before I go fight an overseas war.
Lol believe me you're probably too sickly or out of shape to be drafted.

Remember, a solid 50% of men between 18-29 are INSTANTLY disqualified due to Being fatties, drug addicts, mentally ill, or otherwise un-draftable. Asthma, immediately 4F, same as ADHD or autism.

Oh and those shrunken police departments sure are going to be a big help rounding up draftees lol.

If you actually think the US could legitimately press gang infantry in 2023 I have a bridge to sell you in Peoria.
 
Lol believe me you're probably too sickly or out of shape to be drafted.

Remember, a solid 50% of men between 18-29 are INSTANTLY disqualified due to Being fatties, drug addicts, mentally ill, or otherwise un-draftable. Asthma, immediately 4F, same as ADHD or autism.

Oh and those shrunken police departments sure are going to be a big help rounding up draftees lol.

If you actually think the US could legitimately press gang infantry in 2023 I have a bridge to sell you in Peoria.
Our dear sneeder will make sure we're all nice and fed so we cannot be drafted.
 
@LieutenantRasczak again, why the fuck would you expect White men to fight for a regime that avowedly despises them, is actively conducting demographic replacement, promotes troonery and pedo acceptance for their kids, and throws their tax money away on foregn globohomo projects while domestic systems and infrastructure crumbles?

Are you people all dumb? Put the troll on ignore and move on. Fucking 50IQ mfs can't see the motivation at all.
 
What have Israel or Ukraine done for America?

Their leaders, especially Zelensky, never even bother with saying a simple 'Thank you.' He acts like he has a right to our money and military weaponry, always with that slimy little smirk on his ugly face, like he's just heard a really funny joke, well the joke is definitely on us. I'd love to know how much he's skimmed and what deals he has with black market arms dealers. I've said this before, but I doubt if a tenth of our aid goes anywhere near a battlefield. And he gets away with it because politicians here have been laundering their money through Ukraine for years. He acts like he has all the receipts, and I bet he does. He'd be stupid not to know, and cut off pieces for himself. He doesn't seem to be that particular brand of stupid. I'm going to send Ukraine a gallon of paint and a bag of balloons. It's going to be '99 red balloons' for real.
 
Make a country worth fighting for and maybe competent white men will want to enlist again. But that part is forever lost on the powers that be. Enjoy your unmotivated mercenary army of migrants, asswipes. The Roman legions declined in the same way.

They want the migrants because they'll have no reservations about turning their weapons on the American populace if ordered (and paid) to do so. There were a lot of internal wars during the last decades of the Roman empire. I suspect a lot of it was the same thing. Plus, the socii definitely realized they could essentially rob entire cities and get away with it by armed extortion. Way more money than the sometimes only nominal Emperor was willing or able to supply. Just roll up on a city and demand hundreds of pounds of gold/silver.
 
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