Hector Martin / Héctor Martín Cantero / @marcan42 / マルカン / @marcan42x / @marcan@treehouse.systems / Asahi Lina / Asahi Linux - Developer of Asahi Linux with a VTuber persona. Made Byuu's death unbelievable. Constantly accuses others of harassment and abuse. Hates Hacker News and Kiwi Farms.

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Hector Martin vs. Hacker News, round 10(?), go: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38977326

Here's what the text says if you've visited HN:
Hi! It looks like you might have come from Hacker News.

We're going to be blunt: Hacker News is increasingly a haven for alt-right trolls and hateful abusers, and the administrators have demonstrated that they have no interest in improving the situation despite repeated pleas by multiple people, in public and in private, even going as far as deploying countermeasures to prevent us from blocking HN traffic. A significant number of Hacker News commenters have repeatedly directed harassment, abuse, doxxing, and bigotry at multiple Asahi Linux developers, and much of this content remains available and not flagged or downvoted.

The open source community cannot stand to accept this kind of conduct. Many of us are members of minorities and regularly subject to abuse by these kinds of online communities. Without diverse developers, there would be no Asahi Linux.

These abusers may not use curse words or blatant slurs as often in HN as they do in other communities, but the messages they spread and brigade on the site are just as hateful and damaging as what you will find in other darker corners of the web, and anyone familiar with such conduct will have no trouble noticing the prevalence of dog whistling, bad faith arguments, and discourse aimed at marginalizing minorities under the guise of polite discussion in many HN threads. We understand that not all Hacker News users are like this. However, by letting these vocal users run undeterred, Y Combinator and Daniel Gackle are tacitly approving of this abuse and hurting the reputation of the entire site and its userbase. If you want to support us and what we do and you are a Hacker News user, please bring this up and demand change within the community.

As things stand today, we consider Hacker News traffic to be a net negative for the project (yes, it's that bad), and we kindly ask you to move on to the next story.

Meanwhile I can just archive the post and read it without Hector's whining filling my screen.

Also the comments contain lolcows, with an urbanist sperging cow crossover (@quaawaa will like this):
tentickles54 said:
You may think it’s fiction. But I’ve witnessed it too.

People calling for the death of those that dare to challenge cars.

People calling for the death of those that dare to challenge cops.

HN is a hellhole. And people like Dang not only *allow* the calls for violence, but silence the people exclaiming “What the actual fuck?”

So continue to stick your head in the sand.

This place isn’t a place for nerds anymore. It’s just Reddit, but Orange.
Emphasis mine.
 
I think he also subscibes to NJB and fuckcars because "car brain rot" and could this not be an example of harassments towards car users? I feel harassed knowing he doesn't like my V6 now. Please will mastadon do something about this TOXIC behavior?
And for all their supposed care about learning everything there is to know about random appliances, lamps, stop lights, it's like they TRY to be obtuse about learning why people give a shit about cars or how they even function. My guy, to get to similar power to a v6, v4s NEED turbochargers, and to meet the insane standards that exist now for emissions there's a hell of a lot of junk added that adds to repair costs, makes even replacing shit more expensive and time consuming, and likely lowers the reliability of the vehicle over all. Vehicle costs have never been higher.
 
How does anyone put up with this screeching faggot?
He mostly stays in a social media hugbox on the Fediverse, social.treehouse.systems. Drama only is generated every couple months when something Asahi-related gets posted to more mainstream sites like HN. When that happens, Hector gets mad that he can't janny the comment sections there and sics the tranny brigade on the comment section to flag whatever displeased him (usually references to him being Asahi Lina).
 
When that happens, Hector gets mad that he can't janny the comment sections there and sics the tranny brigade on the comment section to flag whatever displeased him (usually references to him being Asahi Lina).
Which is screamingly obvious and only a retard wouldn't figure it out instantly.
 
Hi! It looks like you might have come from Hacker News.

We're going to be blunt: Hacker News is increasingly a haven for alt-right trolls and hateful abusers, and the administrators have demonstrated that they have no interest in improving the situation despite repeated pleas by multiple people, in public and in private, even going as far as deploying countermeasures to prevent us from blocking HN traffic. A significant number of Hacker News commenters have repeatedly directed harassment, abuse, doxxing, and bigotry at multiple Asahi Linux developers, and much of this content remains available and not flagged or downvoted.

The open source community cannot stand to accept this kind of conduct. Many of us are members of minorities and regularly subject to abuse by these kinds of online communities. Without diverse developers, there would be no Asahi Linux.

These abusers may not use curse words or blatant slurs as often in HN as they do in other communities, but the messages they spread and brigade on the site are just as hateful and damaging as what you will find in other darker corners of the web, and anyone familiar with such conduct will have no trouble noticing the prevalence of dog whistling, bad faith arguments, and discourse aimed at marginalizing minorities under the guise of polite discussion in many HN threads. We understand that not all Hacker News users are like this. However, by letting these vocal users run undeterred, Y Combinator and Daniel Gackle are tacitly approving of this abuse and hurting the reputation of the entire site and its userbase. If you want to support us and what we do and you are a Hacker News user, please bring this up and demand change within the community.

As things stand today, we consider Hacker News traffic to be a net negative for the project (yes, it's that bad), and we kindly ask you to move on to the next story.
The absolute lament way to block HN traffic. JWZ and N-Gate did it way better.
 
Hector is still LARPing as a leaf: https://vt.social/@lina/111846130365874876, https://archive.is/vZ0AN
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"Canada" is a funny way of spelling Spain
 
curl https://alx.sh | sh
There are people who are really this stupid? Really? Some hacker group needs to steal the domain and replace it with a file eraser.
I thought "Don't curl into bash" was one of the prototypical things to not do? Such as rm -rf /'ing or chroot 777'ing random shit?
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curl https://alx.sh | sh
There are people who are really this stupid? Really? Some hacker group needs to steal the domain and replace it with a file eraser.
It's even worse than you think:
Code:
#!/bin/sh
# SPDX-License-Identifier: MIT

# Truncation guard
if true; then
    set -e

    export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
    export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
    export PATH="/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:$PATH"

    export VERSION_FLAG=https://cdn.asahilinux.org/installer/latest
    export INSTALLER_BASE=https://cdn.asahilinux.org/installer
    export INSTALLER_DATA=https://github.com/AsahiLinux/asahi-installer/raw/prod/data/installer_data.json
    export INSTALLER_DATA_ALT=https://alx.sh/installer_data.json
    export REPO_BASE=https://cdn.asahilinux.org
    export REPORT=https://stats.asahilinux.org/report
    export REPORT_TAG=alx-prod

    #TMP="$(mktemp -d)"
    TMP=/tmp/asahi-install

    echo
    echo "Bootstrapping installer:"

    if [ -e "$TMP" ]; then
        mv "$TMP" "$TMP-$(date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S)"
    fi

    mkdir -p "$TMP"
    cd "$TMP"

    echo "  Checking version..."

    PKG_VER="$(curl --no-progress-meter -L "$VERSION_FLAG")"
    echo "  Version: $PKG_VER"

    PKG="installer-$PKG_VER.tar.gz"

    echo "  Downloading..."

    curl --no-progress-meter -L -o "$PKG" "$INSTALLER_BASE/$PKG"
    if ! curl --no-progress-meter -L -O "$INSTALLER_DATA"; then
        echo "    Error downloading installer_data.json. GitHub might be blocked in your network."
        echo "    Please consider using a VPN if you experience issues."
        echo "    Trying workaround..."
        curl --no-progress-meter -L -O "$INSTALLER_DATA_ALT"
    fi

    echo "  Extracting..."

    tar xf "$PKG"

    echo "  Initializing..."
    echo

    if [ "$USER" != "root" ]; then
        echo "The installer needs to run as root."
        echo "Please enter your sudo password if prompted."
        exec caffeinate -dis sudo -E ./install.sh "$@"
    else
        exec caffeinate -dis ./install.sh "$@"
    fi
fi
It's curl | sudo sh!
 
curl https://alx.sh | sh
There are people who are really this stupid? Really? Some hacker group needs to steal the domain and replace it with a file eraser.
I don't understand why they don't distribute as an iso/tar.gz?

Tentickels54 user description:
Fuck HN Fuck Nazis Fuck Dang

(Pppssstttt these are all the same things)

Totally not a deranged person...
HN is actully pretty safe when it comes to discussions. Maybe too safe.
 
curl https://alx.sh | sh
There are people who are really this stupid? Really? Some hacker group needs to steal the domain and replace it with a file eraser.

There's so much to criticize with Hector "Totally not an anime girl" Cantero that Asahi using a shell script to install barely registers as retarded. It's pretty common amongst a fuckton of developer tools, including Homebrew.

There's literally no way you're going to audit the entirety of the installation flow. If you're so technically inclined you can just `curl -O https://alx.sh` and audit the shell script yourself but if it's just downloading another binary to run then it's literally pointless. You are fundamentally always running something untrustworthy at some point when installing software, especially a fucking OS.

I don't understand why they don't distribute as an iso/tar.gz?

Because it needs to be ran from an active macOS installation.
 
There's so much to criticize with Hector "Totally not an anime girl" Cantero that Asahi using a shell script to install barely registers as retarded. It's pretty common amongst a fuckton of developer tools, including Homebrew.

There's literally no way you're going to audit the entirety of the installation flow. If you're so technically inclined you can just `curl -O https://alx.sh` and audit the shell script yourself but if it's just downloading another binary to run then it's literally pointless. You are fundamentally always running something untrustworthy at some point when installing software, especially a fucking OS.



Because it needs to be ran from an active macOS installation.
Hmm, probably a more common thing on MacOS.

But I feel I trust more the local installation model because of signing.

Even if you need to be in MacOS to run the installation, you could still use an archive.
 
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Hmm, probably a more common thing on MacOS.
Even if you need to be in MacOS to run the installation, you could still use an archive.
It's no different to having to manually compile and install a `.tar.gz` (on macOS or Linux) with `make` and `make install`. It could execute literally anything it wants so it's not any safer.
But I feel I trust more the local installation model because of signing.
There isn't really a good signature/certificate authority to use as the trusted root though, so any installation instructions would have to come with a key/hash/whatever that can just as easily be changed if it were to become compromised.
 
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