Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Napoleon III said:
if anyone here would like Mr. Pink Triangle to be thread-banned
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I see by your join date you missed the drama that caused the thread split as well as engendered numerous Mass Debates threads. This thread is for:
Only friends of Russia, advocates for national sovereignty, NATO haters, and/or weirdos who just want to see Ukrainians die may post in this thread.
Not you? How about Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion?
Just looking to argue? Look in Mass Debates.
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Reminding the retard with the pink triangle in no uncertain terms of it is halal. If you like his posts you should post in his thread here. Or you can start one of your own to discuss whatever tangent take your fancy with him but shitting up the thread with basic and/or rhetorical questions (eg when will Russia end the war) that anyone who has even a fleeting interest in this would already know is off topic so its appropriate to call him out. That said I'm sure he'll be threadbanned if he persists in sperging out.

Rei is Shit. said:
“If our international partners moved faster, we would have kicked their ass in the first three or four months so hard that we would have gotten over it already. We’d be sowing fields and raising children,”
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lol I doubt he believes this. Yesterday I was re-watching video of the war when the hohol "counter-offensive" began and that wasn't the case at all. They literally drove tanks into minefields resulting in wrecks that littered those fields. If they're cannibalizing those same wrecks for armor its simply a matter of time.
 
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Napoleon III said:
I Concur if anyone here would like Mr. Pink Triangle to be thread-banned you can report him using the report feature otherwise quit complaining.
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Problem is, that was already tried. Jannies think he is just funny, you faggots don't stop responding to him so I can't even just put him on ignore. The worst is the Russophile kike-cat-granny, who complains AND feeds at the same time, like how retarded can you be.
 
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The giant penis of doom said:
Problem is, that was already tried. Jannies think he is just funny, you faggots don't stop responding to him so I can't even just put him on ignore. The worst is the Russophile kike-cat-granny, who complains AND feeds at the same time, like how retarded can you be.
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Not as retarded as you it seems since rather than follow your own advice you decided to make a post proving what a bitch you are.
 
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Mav52ri said:
Chris-Chan reference, I was lurking in these threads before the split happened, dear god I don't wanna go back to that, that would defiantly kill off my last remaining braincells.
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Yes but like, russian tank man bad because top go boom and russia is going to collapse any day now and it has already collapsed. Checkmate vatniks
 
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Emmanuel Todd historian, anthropologist, demographer, sociologist and political scientist and the guy that predicted in the 70's that SU would collapse within 2 decades.

Had an interview over his latest book "The Defeat of the West"

Where he's predicting the fall of the West Here's short summery to his conclusions to anyone who doesn't want to read.

Industrial decline and the decline of education in the United States,

The disappearance of Protestantism as a value system in Western society.

The growing attractiveness of Russia in the eyes of the rest of the world. In this regard according to him Moscow's new conservative "soft power" is becoming increasingly popular in contrast to Western morality, which seems "insane" to other countries. And the fact that the Russian defiance and economy has withstood the shock of sanctions. And that much of what is said in the West about Russia is often incorrect:

A lot of what he saying in the interview ain't exactly shocking and nor exactly an eye opener. But it's refreshing to see at least not all of the west's "intelligentsia" is blind


Edit

Sorry, guys corrected the web archive link so the whole article can be viewed.
 
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Rubick said:
Moscow's new conservative "soft power" is becoming increasingly popular in contrast to Western morality, which seems "insane" to other countries.
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The west never had morality after Grant got in office. It's all bullshit. We were just really, REALLY good at lining up the morality with the actual goals up until after WW2. Then there was an unavoidable disconnect.
 
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Michael Wade said:
The west never had morality after Grant got in office. It's all bullshit. We were just really, REALLY good at lining up the morality with the actual goals up until after WW2. Then there was an unavoidable disconnect.
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Interesting. Can you clarify more on Ulysses Grant ?
 
One of Germany's liberal warmongerers DIE ZEIT is having another "Ukies are losing"-article. Can't wait for reddit to denounce them as Putinistas.


Ukraine is not fighting for us
Ukraine is not defending the freedom of the West, but its own. That is hard enough, and a victorious peace is unrealistic. In the end, we have to negotiate.

Some choice parts.

The expectation that Ukraine will be able to restore its full territorial integrity by military means is based on a blatant loss of reality in view of the excessive force required for this and the decreasing willingness to provide support in key Western capitals. Furthermore, anyone propagating the prospect of a full reconquest of Ukraine should soberly analyze Russia's countermeasures in such a scenario, beyond the undoubted justification in terms of international law and morality.
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Typically, calls for new Ukrainian offensives and a victorious peace in Ukraine are not linked to operational-strategic concepts or the security policy consequences for Europe. Would a clear Russian defeat actually improve the security situation in Germany and Europe in the coming years? The goal of a victorious peace in Ukraine, if pursued by the supporting NATO states, could turn out to be a dangerous illusion that would inevitably draw NATO into this war sooner or later. Responsible security policy, which must avert harm to the German population, must not follow this path.
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Against this backdrop, the idea that Europe could compensate for a significant reduction in US support is completely unfounded. Unfortunately. It is simply illusory and politically and strategically inappropriate to demand that the non-nuclear power Germany, of all countries, should take a leading role in supporting Ukraine against the nuclear superpower Russia, while the nuclear superpower USA and the European nuclear powers Great Britain and France hold back.
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That's it hohols. The Krauthawks are leaving the sinking ship. Don't let that Poobong fool you into thinking there's support from the mainland. You're fucking done.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
Democrats have lost the plot hard ever since Daddy Putler told king nigger to fuck off.

Tanks to Ukraine, guns to Israel and bombing Yemen while trying to act tough in front of China. All at the same time. And also still sanctioning nations over refusing Big Gay.
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There is no version of this where America looks like the good guy. We're involved in 3 horrifically unpopular wars right now, voters have no say and Congress is being bypassed reguarly to expadite arms shipments that aren't being traced, and basically begging China to take the bait and start another war over Taiwan. Since South Africa did the unthinkable and actually took Israel to the Hague, they're absolutely going to get sanctioned over some bullshit in the next few months which is going to piss off even more countries. All the while, every single presidential candidate, except Trump, is basically promising to start another war with some fucking body the day after they're elected.

Dems who still back Biden at this point are either completely delusional or being paid, there's no middle ground.
 
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Michael Wade said:
The west never had morality after Grant got in office. It's all bullshit. We were just really, REALLY good at lining up the morality with the actual goals up until after WW2. Then there was an unavoidable disconnect.
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What exactly happened after WWII? Did the propaganda used to demoralize the enemy get out of control?
 
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