William James Mitchell vs. Twin Galaxies LLC, Jeff Harrist & Jeremy Young & donkeykongforum.com, Benjamin Q Smith

[Bowiotronic]

This is the last shit left from classic arcade times, can't goddamn die soon enough.

 

[Poppavalyim Andropoff]

 

[Cyberpunk Panatela]

So who was correct, team twitch or team smooth? Or did this conversation lead them into playing with speedballs of meth and beta blockers?

How many and how long were the rounds?

I'll have to find that interview to check this, but IIRC a US team won the thing with some Euros in 2nd.

The tournament was one of those 3-day things with 2 days of eliminations, then finals and 3rd place playoffs on the last day.

As for whether they were "practicing new strats in this field", just bear in mind that this community has contained such illustrious personages as Ninja(Fortnite), Destiny(Starcraft) and the entire Faze Klan. Make up your own mind.

Spoiler: P/L

I used to follow this dumb "sport" until I decided that I'd rather play games myself than watch others do it.

Your comment on pilots being given amphetamines to aid in staying alert for long periods of time made me think - This effect would be extremely useful to both the retro arcade high scorer(other than straight-out liars like Mitchell) and speedrunning crowds, especially speedrunners of games with long playtimes.

Both these "communities" are unfortunately becoming saturated with trannies, who are already used to popping pills for no real reason, so what's one more?

 

[Lyster]

So the TG Lawyer sperged out and begged for forgiveness. Imagine crossing Billy "American Dream" Mitchell.
Bet you he not only is gonna get the scores reinstated, but also given the keys to the city. Dressed up like that, if he lost this, it'd be as if democracy lost.

That's right, Apollo/Karl trannies, your MAME screens doesn't mean shit, you could send in a video of Billy beheading a nigger in front of the white house, but Billy always has a plan.

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So Billy won right? The case was very likely settled on Billy"s favor as Twin galaxy lawyer conduct, meltdown and later apology indicates. Total Karl Sisters Defeat

 

[Caesare]

One wonders if Twin Galaxies longstanding policy of submitting records on VHS cassettes was a cover for some other type of cassette trading.

Remember the guy who used to review the "high score" tapes for Twin Galaxies? I'd say that's a perfectly reasonable theory simply based on that one guy's appearance.

 

[ZipDisk]

I specifically didn't say his name because I was under the misconception it gets scrubbed from the internet, a re-read of the thread shows it was an internal coverup by TG. But yes, specifically, the guy who raped his daughter was the arbiter of the Atari 2600 scores.
My memory did the telephone game.

 

[Harm]

You claim this is comparable to colluding with a highscore tracking agency to get bullshit scores submitted and financially benefitting from that for decades and suing people who point out that the scores are obviously cheated.

Todd Rogers submitted impossible times to magazines and Karl Jobst did literally the same exact thing. That's what I said and it is true; that was the extent of the comparison and that was enough to establish Karl's hypocrisy (as well as Jobst's aggressive monetization). What happened next for them was different, but the seeds of hypocrisy were already sowed.

I still respect you disagreeing with me on this, and I don't think you're being dishonest.

 

['Ole Dente]

if they're not cheating they're using what the sporting fraternity refers to "Performance Enhancing Agents" and everyone else just calls "drugs".

In all fairness, two lines of coke is the difference between you doing a good job and you doing a fucking amazing job.

 

[CoolSixtyNiner]

Every time and I generally discount it. Like someone claiming a California judge is biased towards males. I mean, I suppose it's possible but all I hear is "I'm a bitch who lost before this other bitch."

That said a couple of the statements about her general laziness sound pretty familiar. She gives off serious Chupp vibes.

I mean seriously Bitchell repeatedly committed perjury, elaborate frauds on the court and the other party including generating fake plaques to support his lies, obstructed discovery in every possible way, and she berates the fucking defendant's lawyer for getting a little testy over this shit?

Fifty years from now nobody will even remember this completely irrelevant nobody.

I will do everything in my power to lionize Billy Mitchell and ensure his legacy of incredible achievements (Donkey Kong, hot sauce) are remembered by future generations.

I love Billy Mitchell. It's unbelievable someone like him exists in our reality. I bought his hot sauce which was pretty good tbh, and I will do my best denigrate Steve the autistic substitute teacher and Karl Jobst.

Billy Mitchell is a successful Patrick Tomlinson and I love him for it.

 

[Glowie]

I forgot "King of Kong" and his merry band of frauds. I have few questions.

Why Twin Galaxy didn't bring up Billy's past, modded arcade cabinet end awards that never materialized?

 

[Carpenter Trout]

How much money and man-hours have been wasted over video game scores?

Too much.
Also: Hi-Score >>> Speedrun Time

 

[Blood Bath & Beyond]

Todd Rogers submitted impossible times to magazines and Karl Jobst did literally the same exact thing. That's what I said and it is true; that was the extent of the comparison and that was enough to establish Karl's hypocrisy (as well as Jobst's aggressive monetization). What happened next for them was different, but the seeds of hypocrisy were already sowed.

I still respect you disagreeing with me on this, and I don't think you're being dishonest.

Are you being intentionally dense or are you genuinely retarded? Jobst was TWELVE YEARS OLD when he submitted his "fake score" for something that at the time no one cared about and which gave him no recognition, clout or earnings. Rogers faked ALL of his scores over many decades through his ENTIRE ADULTHOOD and used those lies to garner celebrity, sponsorships and power. How the fuck do you not understand the difference in those two vastly different situations? There are plenty of other things to criticize Jobst for, but to latch onto the "fake score in a small magazine when he was still a CHILD, not even a teenager, and which benefited him in absolutely no way" then you must actually be autistic.

 

[SnufflePuff]

So who was correct, team twitch or team smooth? Or did this conversation lead them into playing with speedballs of meth and beta blockers?

How many and how long were the rounds? I thought combat Pilots did meth because they had to be awake and alert for hours at a time scanning for potential problems.

Almost undoubtedly the European one. North American teams even if they were using adderall usually got beat out by European players. I say this as someone who usually rooted for North American teams. It got to a point where a few North American pros would openly admit to using adderall during tournaments but it never amounted to anything. There was small debate about whether they should drug test or not. The games could last anywhere from 45 minutes to over an hour but they would usually be playing all day during elimination rounds.

 

[SentinentCloud]

Billy Mitchell did nothing wrong, and Karl Jobst is a austistic aussie who got his brain fried by the strong sun

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

Donkey Kong is one hell of a drug. I don’t think anyone would predict this level of pure chaos arising from an emergency reskinning of Popeye after a licensing deal fell through.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

BIlly Big Head causing everyone around him to go full mongoloid while he keeps spouting retarded bullshit is a sight to behold. It's a gift, kinda like Fatrick can make any man or women of any creed hate him almost instantly

Billy king of Kong Mitchell
Billy hot sauce King Mitchell
Billy you will settle Mitchell
Billy winner of lawsuits Mitchell
Billy Ender of grifters

He has DSP power levels of dodging the seemingly inevitable it seems.
When it looks like you were going to lose, but it turns out your opponents lawyer is a gibbering lunatic retard... and you clutch out a private settlement behind closed doors instead of a public loss? Holy fuck.

Now we just need DSP and Billy Mitchell to start a podcast together the combined levels of just show dumb luck will somehow make it the number one podcast

Now Legends, I can't belive this just happened. Billy michell sure knows how to play the game. The color of the joystick and how mame it is doesn't matter. I think there is a life lesson in there. And it is: If you are caught cheating and don't get away with it. You are a bad cheater.

Well earned victory Billy. Rules are for losers

My mother was a crazy psychotic woman once told me one thing that is probably the best advice I can ever give to someone cheating is only cheating if you get caught

 

[Captain Manning]

Do we even know if Billy "won" anything? For all we know the settlement could've been in TG's favor and this witness badgering shit was totally unrelated.

We don't, but the issue here is that, by all rights, TG should have spanked Billy. That they didn't suggests something went very wrong and Billy can now spin this as a W.

Very gay.

Karl is also probably red faced right now. That's what sometimes happens when you hype shit too hard before it comes off the rails.

 

[Caesare]

I specifically didn't say his name because I was under the misconception it gets scrubbed from the internet, a re-read of the thread shows it was an internal coverup by TG. But yes, specifically, the guy who raped his daughter was the arbiter of the Atari 2600 scores.
My memory did the telephone game.

I was thinking of Robert Myzcek who hasn't ever been convicted AFAIK but he looks like a creep nonetheless. I didn't remember his name but found it on page six of this thread.

I also saw a name that was a blast from the past, Lonnie Cancienne. Not a pedophile but a serial jacker. Back in 2009, when IMDB still had message boards, I started a thread on Lonnie because he had just gotten arrested after a day's long flashing spree. He'd pull up in his car as women were outside in their yards and he'd just start jacking it.

I heard about it on the local news because he lived about 25 minutes away from me and in the news article regarding his jacking spree, it mentioned he was the World record holder for Galaga or frogger, some 80s arcade game, and he set the record as a teenager at a pizza joint over a 24+ hour marathon session.

Given the arcade game world record connection, I thought it would be a perfect story for the IMDB forum for the King of Kong movie. And because I posted it there, another forum member posted that he was around Lonnie's age and was actually there at the Pizzeria that day when Lonnie achieved his world record back in the early 80s.

His contribution was that he remembered Lonnie shaking his head a lot to try and stay awake during the later hours of the marathon record setting arcade session.

Definitely something about that hobby and being a creep. They couldn't attract women with their talents since women don't respect a man who spends hours and hours mastering video games. Instead, they resort to gross, deviant behavior like Lonnie, or they abuse children like those other TG fags. At least Lonnie didn't hurt children.

We don't, but the issue here is that, by all rights, TG should have spanked Billy. That they didn't suggests something went very wrong and Billy can now spin this as a W.

There's that great scene in King of Kong, when Billy Mitchell cucks Steve Weibe with the last minute World record tape submission, and in his celebratory mood, he answers the phone, "World record HQ". Now he can answer all his calls "Billy Mitchell, legal expert extraordinaire."

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Cheating in speedrunning video game lolsuits is still one of the most fun, yet bizarre, things to come out of the last decade. It’s nice to see that nothing has changed since then.

 

[Jang Joo]

Mildly related, but what was the deal with Apollo? His evidence seemed to be pretty damning, but then he fell off the face of the Earth. That's also more or less when I last heard of this case