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Gonzalo Lira: The US government has allowed Ukraine to kill an American journalist who criticised ‘dictator’ Zelensky​

So, Gonzalo Lira is dead. As he warned in his last video message before being disappeared (this time, as it turned out, forever) by the Ukrainian regime, his political journalism has cost him his life.

A successful social media commentator and American citizen, Lira died while incarcerated by Ukraine’s repression apparatus for his criticism of the Western and Ukrainian position on the war against Russia. His terms were often direct, even harsh and polemical. But he was not a spy or some sort of subversive influence agent. He was transparent and open to a fault, standing with his own name – and life – for everything he said. He was a political prisoner (yes, I agree with Tucker Carlson on this one); the official Ukrainian charges against him are a ludicrous disgrace.

The immediate cause of his death is virtually certain to have been severe, prolonged, and systematic neglect, which led to his indirect killing – fully deliberate or not – by a condition (pneumonia and complications) that is perfectly treatable. In legal terms, this qualifies as, at least, manslaughter or even murder, committed by Ukrainian officers of the “law” and those issuing their orders.

According to what Lira stated when he could still communicate, he was also tortured in a more hands-on fashion, so as to plunder his personal wealth. If you know how Ukrainian politics and authorities operate, there is no reason at all to disbelieve him.

In spite of laudable efforts by fellow American citizens as prominent as Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk to help Lira, the US government made itself a de facto accessory in his killing by refusing to assist one of its own citizens who was, obviously, in extreme danger. Lira, by the way, told us he had heard from people in the know that Victoria “Neocon Cookie Monster and Queen of Coup and War” Nuland herself knew about his case and “hated his guts.”

At a time when the West is accelerating its habitual spreading of war and even genocide, it may seem almost odd to dedicate a text to a single life taken. All human lives have exactly the same absolute worth, a truth every decent person accepts and, more importantly, practices, whether religious or not. And yet, due to the way power works in our thoroughly fallen world, it does make sense to speak about Lira.

First of all, to pay our respects. It is true that Gonzalo Lira was no saint (just like the rest of us, by the way). He had things on his CV (operating as a "dating coach," for instance) that he, like everyone else, should have had a full life to come to regret. He also had political views that I, for one, heartily disagree with, such as his own brand of libertarianism and an apologetic attitude toward Chile’s abysmal Pinochet dictatorship.

And so what? He was unusually courageous, which, in the end, cost him his life. And he had the extraordinary honesty to not only understand just how wrong the US-NATO proxy war in and via Ukraine was, but to say so loudly and very publicly. While based in Ukraine. (And full disclosure again, I had the genuine honor and pleasure to be invited onto his program on YouTube, where he was a smart and gracious host with an irreverent sense of humor.)

In a world of cowardly careerist underhandedness (looking at you, Olaf Scholz, Robert Habeck, Annalena Baerbock, for instance…) and habitual, crass lying (your turn, Benjamin Netanyahu, Joe Biden, Antony Blinken, and, yes, Vladimir Zelensky), Gonzalo hollered the truth where it mattered and it took guts.

That’s why Stella Assange, the wife of the single most important political prisoner in the world, Julian Assange, has tweeted about Lira’s death, correctly pointing out the responsibility of the US authorities.

Gonzalo Lira’s father should have the last word. This is what he told the Grayzone:

“I cannot accept the way my son has died. He was tortured, extorted, incommunicado for 8 months and 11 days and the US Embassy did nothing to help my son… The responsibility of this tragedy is [with] the dictator Zelensky with the concurrence of a senile American President, Joe Biden… My pain is unbearable. The world must know what is going on in Ukraine with that inhuman dictator Zelensky.”

We can genuinely commiserate, although we can’t literally feel the depth of his pain. But for all of us, Gonzalo Lira’s protracted, through-and-through unjust and entirely avoidable killing is yet another brutal sign that those who rule the West have no limits left.
 
It's not the Government's responsibility to rescue every bumblefuck retard who get themselves into political trouble oversees just because they're a US citizen. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he an expat who renounced his citizenship? I'll admit I don't know much about the guy aside from the fact he was a walking joke.
 
God it's weird to see lolcow bullshit escalate to this level. Chris was one thing but now we have coach red pill being lauded as a hero for being retarded.
The fool who acts achieves more than the wise man who does nothing.

It's not the Government's responsibility to rescue every bumblefuck retard who get themselves into political trouble oversees just because they're a US citizen. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he an expat who renounced his citizenship? I'll admit I don't know much about the guy aside from the fact he was a walking joke.
Perhaps. But the Biden administration is currently paying the salaries of every government employee in the Ukraine, has Western banks buying up Ukranian currency en masse to help keep it afloat, is supplying Kiev the weapons and satellite intelligence it needs to keep fighting and basically the country's sole lifeline. If they're willing to release an international arms dealer to get back someone who smuggled drugs into Russia, you'd think a 30 second phone call saying: "I want this person released" would not be beyond them.
 
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People pushing putins agenda ought to join Steven Segal and just go live in Russia already.

Perhaps many republicans should just make the move, too.
I have a better idea, chickenshithawks who treat that corrupt slav shithole like it's holy should put their money where their mouth is and go sign up for the UAF. I understand they have lots of openings.
 
Funny and bizarre as it is that CRP of all people is now a martyr, it would've been avoided if the US and the Zelensky regime told the truth and admitted that the Ukraine is indeed a dictatorship that does dictatorship things like vanish and murder opposition journalists. People only care because we're told they're a heroic bastion of freedom and Our Democracy like the Rebel Alliance of Hogwarts.
 
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I have a better idea, chickenshithawks who treat that corrupt slav shithole like it's holy should put their money where their mouth is and go sign up for the UAF. I understand they have lots of openings.
Oh? But the corrupt leader of Israel who is under criminal investigation and leads a country that’s been sapping our coffers for 50 years while also being found guilty of developing mobile spy technology used against us, deserves our unwavering support?
 
Still can't believe that he live tweeted his attempted escape from Ukraine
This is why I have difficulty feeling sympathy for him. I don't really know him as CRP, so maybe he was always an impulsive idiot who couldn't shut his mouth. But when a foreign government has already declared you to be subversive, already arrested you, then miraculously gives you an opportunity to escape? You shut your fucking mouth and run. Make videos and tweet to your heart's content, once you're back on friendly soil.

I feel bad for his family. I'm sure his death wasn't pleasant. But all he had to do was be quiet for a little while.
 
CRP was an unlikable retard who bet on the wrong horse and definitely fucked up by Tweeting about his escape route.

He also didn't deserve to die and Ukraine should have spent every penny of the money we gave them on treating his health conditions. If they couldn't, they should have let him go.
I accept this threaded needle and am now ready to move on

Hard to believe 16 days in and we've already got our lolcow of the year
 
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They effectively did. In the world of international relations and politics there's explicit actions and implicit actions. The latter is frequently used for PR/diplomatic purposes to have plausible deniability. Forcing him to leave would be a Pyrrhic victory at best. He's gone but can couch it as the Ukrainian government being afraid of what he has to say. At almost every step of the way it's been apparent that if he quietly left the country and went literally anywhere else, he'd be fine. He could have gone right back to criticizing them, they'd be powerless to stop him, but they'd be able to save face by saying he fled.

You don't continually arrest and release a foreign national with their passport if you intend for them to stick around. Anyone with a modicum of rationality or the ability to even slightly read between the lines would get the message. It's not incompetence or unintentional, it's an unspoken invitation to leave. Hell even a high-functioning autist would pick up on the cues after the first or second confrontation. Ukraine should be capable of keeping him in-country but there are far bigger fish to fry. Doing nothing to stop him from slipping through the cracks largely limits any propaganda value explicitly letting/forcing him to leave would have. They played this out almost by the book for dealing with any normal-ish person.

Letting him flaunt his escape is even worse than explicitly kicking him out in the first place. It undermines the authority and power of the government. It requires no effort or expertise to know his plans when he shouts them from the proverbial rooftop. His own hubris pretty much forced them to respond and do things through the "proper" channels and incarcerate him and bring him to court. Even perceived weakness is poison to Eastern European politicians.

Even if the US/Chile were inclined to extricate him, that's almost a non-starter due to his own behavior up until now. They would need to either get a massive over-payment or they will be seen as kowtowing to Western demands. The US/Chile would be disincentivized from paying when they're already trying to curtail support. Back-channels aren't possible because they have to know CRP himself would spill the beans. This isn't really comparable to Brittany Griner either. She was immediately arrested for crimes outside of any conflict/war. The State Department will have to denounce him dying in custody but don't expect more than words to be done about it. Prisoners are neglected and get sick when the government is preoccupied with an invasion. Regardless of right and wrong this was completely predictable and avoidable. You'd have to be as stupid as CRP to see it as anything else.
Or in other words...

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 
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Gonzo reminds me of that obnoxious American kid that vandalized a construction site and various cars in Singapore, resulting in his ass getting caned. They typically were kinda hands off regarding expat's kids, but the kid went far enough that they finally beat his ass.

The fact Gonzo was effectively just being given warnings at first and just kept carrying on as though he was untouchable is so retarded. The guy really bought his own bullshit about the country being fake and gay so none of their laws would really apply to him. Feel like most normal people would take police showing up on their door step as a sign that shit has gotten real.

Instead he hops on a motorcycle and makes a public statement that he'd be ignoring Ukrainian authorities, resulting in him getting promptly stopped and ending up in a prison system known for people getting shit like TB. It's all so astonishingly stupid.
 
Be a black basket boll player who smuggles weed into Russia: trade an arms dealer who's responsible for untold numbers of deaths
Be a retard Youtuber arrested in an allied country that is 100% dependent on aid to survive: *crickets*

This really is the biggest takeaway from all this.. How tinpot our government has really already become under this admin.
 
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He also had political views that I, for one, heartily disagree with, such as his own brand of libertarianism and an apologetic attitude toward Chile’s abysmal Pinochet dictatorship.
Whatever his faults, Gonzalo Lira aka Coach Red Pill had me at apologetic attitude toward Chile’s abysmal Pinochet dictatorship. Augusto Pinochet was a great man and all who recognize his greatness are my brothers. Pinochet's helicopter solution to the problem of communism should be emulated everywhere.

While Coach Red Pill may have been a complete dumbass in most respects, the fact remains he was an American citizen betrayed by a cowardly and corrupt American government. Fuck Biden. Fuck Zelensky. Truly, fuck them all.

Gonzalo Lira is dead. Long live Gonzalo Lira.
 
The amount of people victim blaming this faggot just because it was Zalensky (HBTN) that murdered him is fucking sad.

Unless it means we can victim blame again. In that case, that bitch was a retard for wearing that and walking down that ally.
Firstly, you do not know how he died. You are guessing.

Secondly, he was being held in a jail for breaking the law, plenty of Americans die while being held in our country and abroad in jails - why should foreign jails be somehow better than our own where people die all the time?

Third he had a big mouth on him and that alone in a US prison is enough to get you killed, let alone slagging people off in a foreign jail where they are at war. I'm guessing but he probably was killed for his fat mouth rather than a government assassination. But I'm guessing.

Fourth, it has been said many times on here Californians should just die, well you got your wish.

Fifth: Americans are arrested who can not be released and brought back to the USA all the time, being an American citizen doesn't grant you immunity from a countries laws, justice or imprisonment. Many Americans languish in foreign jails. Why should this clown get special treatment?
 
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