Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Fried-Rice12]

If it actually were, it probably would be broadcasted to some degree. Article 39 of the Geneva convention forbids this kind of action, and while yes, "international law" is a fucking meme, it is usually a cheap and easy talking point.

We are talking about the same globalhomo ukrops who regularly torture Russian POWs and then post their videos online.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

I know a trap when I see one. If Trump goes to Ukraine, he's never coming home. I trust his safety more with the North Koreans.

Trump winning almost guarantees an end to the war, and the first thing getting thrown out is Zelensky's ridiculous list of demands. There's an enormous incentive to make sure he dies while visiting their rapidly collapsing, war torn, third world shithole.

And then blame it on 'Russian Shelling'. Putin is the big bad for killing Trump, a former president, ensuring WW3 would start any moment.

 

[Keystone]

And then blame it on 'Russian Shelling'. Putin is the big bad for killing Trump, a former president, ensuring WW3 would start any moment.

If anything they'd give Putin a medal. It would save them from having to cheat this election (again). I mean they're still gonna, but still.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

people refusing to accept reality

Weapons grade copium

It seems yesterday the Biden Administration didn't agree with you:


Since its an election year the other side isn't going to let Biden go around saying he beat the Ruskis. C'est fini.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

If anything they'd give Putin a medal. It would save them from having to cheat this election (again). I mean they're still gonna, but still.

I disagree and think this is naive and optimistic point of view.

If anything happens to Trump, or when he inevitably passes, he will be praised for his hard work during the Covid crisis, how he identified the issue originated in China, how he had a great economy and was loved by the people, and his tweets? Hilarious and a reflection of the times. RIP he will be missed, a true hero.

 

[Sir Joahim Browinson III]

The absolute logic here.

Ukraine is nothing but barely functional retards yet somehow Russia has only advanced 100 miles tops into eastern Ukraine. If Ukrainians are as dumb as you people portray them and Russians as capable this war should have been over long ago.

Well, if you are so harsh to judge Russia for underdelivering, I would like to briefly remind you, that despite being given tons of money, weaponry, intelligence support, officer staff and mercs by the west, Ukraine still failed it's own counteroffensive opperation which they hyped as The Big Push to drive the Russians out, which turned out to be the most expensive wet fart in the history of modern warfare, which featured, oh, a columns of tech casuly rinding onto landmines. They also promissed to liberate Crimea by the august 2023, which obviosly didn't happen, asside from a couple of sneaky boys on the boat that made a photo with a flag on a shore and shat their pants at the sight of the boomer with hunting rifle.
And probably the most retarded thing of all: Shooting expensive western missles into regulat civilians the are supposed to de-occupy, instead of, you know, militrary targets.

So yeah, I think it's fair to say they are figthing like retards, but they have good international wranglers so this struggle gonna go on a little bit more.

Also, хрюкни

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

He's trying to suck up to Trump for precisely that reason. He thinks that since Biden's likely on the way out and Trump's gonna be back in, he can suck Trump off enough and get more money for "2 Weeks To Moscow!" for another year or two.

I imagine what Trump's reaction will be is something to the tune of "Zalinsky, you are a fucking idiot and you'd better be willing to beg Russia for mercy. You have nowhere to negotiate from and the Russians have every reason to completely level your entire country, so if I were you I'd start hanging those neo-Nazis and making as many apologies as you can for blowing up Russian children and tearing down Russian monuments."

The thing with Trump though is that everything is negotiable, the man has no principles. Want me to gut the 1st Amendment? What will you give me in return? The 2nd Amendment? What will you give me in return? I could see Trump sending troops if they gave him dirt on the Biden family. Hell, just promise to rename Bakhmut to Trump Oblast and it'll get retaken in a month.

 

[Gondolindrim]

I know a trap when I see one. If Trump goes to Ukraine, he's never coming home. I trust his safety more with the North Koreans.

Trump winning almost guarantees an end to the war, and the first thing getting thrown out is Zelensky's ridiculous list of demands. There's an enormous incentive to make sure he dies while visiting their rapidly collapsing, war torn, third world shithole.

That's exactly how I fucking feel, these "challenges" for Trump to go to Ukraine are threats. If he goes over there, Zelensky's going to try and have him whacked.

 

[The Ugly One]

Phone Number Guy seems to think that in a normal war, if you're on the winning side, nobody gets killed, and nobody makes mistakes. He probably thinks Germany invaded London and annexed England after the Dieppe Raid.

 

[Strix454]

Its the same thread, two groups of people refusing to accept reality. Holos think theyre curb stopping Russia, Zboys think theyre curb stopping holos each thinking just two more weeks and the other side will be either in Moscow or Kiev.

The "Partitioning of Discussion" in the title should be enough information to explain it to you. You are shitting up the thread. LEAVE NOW. .

 

[Rubick]

Zboys think theyre curb stopping holos each thinking just two more weeks and the other side will be either in Moscow or Kiev.

Lovely strawman you got there.

I'd love to see quote anyone here who thinks this will last just two more weeks.

And the Ukrainians are in fact being bled dry. That was obvious within months into the operation.


Also, i dont think you know what combined arms tactics mean.

 

[geckogoy]

It's worth pointing out a huge portion of why the ukranians are holding out so well is that the US is utilizing its huge orbital reconnaissance network to identify Russian supply dumps, staging grounds, et cetera, and is then essentially passing fire missions directly to 'ukrainian' himars units trained in the US and which are basically solely taking US orders.

Russian logistics is effectively paralyzed as compared to what you would expect if the ukrainians had to rely on their own equipment and intelligence gathering. Things would start going a lot worse really rapidly if the supply of intel and mid/long range artillery missiles ever dried up.

 

[Prester John]

The "Partitioning of Discussion" in the title should be enough information to explain it to you. You are shitting up the thread. LEAVE NOW. .

If there were a "stalemate" thread then I would fit in, but I don't properly fit into either thread in their current incarnations.

 

[Strix454]

If there were a "stalemate" thread then I would fit in, but I don't properly fit into either thread in their current incarnations.

It depends what people mean by "stalemate". If Stalemate is equal to going into the partitioned threads and arguing the opposite position in each, thats against the spirit of the rules. Someone (not you) claiming that they want to talk about stalemate and then launching into page after page of "Russians are the baddies" arguments is disingenuous.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

If there were a "stalemate" thread then I would fit in, but I don't properly fit into either thread in their current incarnations.

A "stalemate" would only apply if Russia's goal was to take territory. That's never been the goal. Demilitarizing Ukraine so it is no longer a threat to Russians was always the goal. It's a predictable cope.

 

[Prester John]

What I mean by "stalemate" is the final years of the Korean War, with very little progress made by either side, little territory exchanged. In partitioning of discussion, that's not a reality that's palatable to the echo chamber of either side.

 

[Betonhaus]

If there were a "stalemate" thread then I would fit in, but I don't properly fit into either thread in their current incarnations.

Containment Thread for Russia-Ukraine faggots to bitch about whose shambolic corrupt society is better than the other's​

 

[White_N]

Since its an election year the other side isn't going to let Biden go around saying he beat the Ruskis.

Good God, I just realized that if Trump is elected president and the Ukrainian war is over, we will see a maelstrom of schizophrenia about a national hero who stopped Stalin 2.0 from attacking Europe/Kremlin agent who gave up Ukraine like Czechoslovakia to Hitler and didn't let ((us))) finish off Ruzzia.

 

[Strix454]

What I mean by "stalemate" is the final years of the Korean War, with very little progress made by either side, little territory exchanged. In partitioning of discussion, that's not a reality that's palatable to the echo chamber of either side.

If someone wants to say the fighting is in a stalemate, I don't know that there are going to be major objections here.

But ranting about how incompetent the Russians are, saying Putin's thinking is just the same as American thinking in Vietnam, talking up Ukrainian videos of Russians being attacked, talking about how Russians are making "idiotic mistakes", talking about how Russians are "badly trained conscripts" and saying "Russians being absolutely annihilated due to sheer retardation". And saying all that while saying nothing much bad about Ukraine is going to look like someone with an agenda other than talking about a stalemate.

 

[geckogoy]

To be fair, posting in 'everyone already agrees with me: the thread' is kindof boring.