Horrorcow Murray Root / Lysik'an / Grimau / Ancient Guardian - Patriarch of the Crazy Autistic Fairy Headmate Family

[Dog Prom 3D]

So, I've been reading all of this and yet I can't tell if Seebs has actually been in a room with any of Murray's creations. Seebs claims to "know" them and has known them for years but how so? Does Seebs know them all online and maybe via chatting? Various online groups and SL sex rooms? I'm thinking Seebs may be a victim of this ruse, just like everyone who swore up and down the family in the Warrior Eli scam were real because they'd talked to them on Facebook. But I may have missed if Seebs insists (s)he's broken bread or spent Father's Day with this bizarre sex cult.

But let's all be clear as we investigate - Murray is a man who suffered a loss and created a host of characters who met his emotional needs. There are no feral shit smearing nubile girls with the minds of Stephen Hawking beating the shit out of middle-managers. There may be one peripheral person involved in Murray's strangeness but for now it's all him. He's very likely used the names of real people to represent the characters in his head but if there are more than two separate people involved in and aware of this strange ruse, I too will eat a hat.

No company is going to permit on premises someone who is so unstable he or she will beat anyone who touches them. All it takes is someone brushing up against them accidentally in a stairwell or an elevator or a bathroom and it's all over. And as @Southern Belle noted, you cannot be made to sign away any rights you have to seek legal or civil redress by employer request or demand. All HR reps would have shit themselves at the following: "Hi, we have this genius level programmer who is largely non-verbal, has dicey bathroom habits, is hyper-sexual, doesn't like clothes, cannot be trusted around sharp objects or even hard corners on tables, and may come unglued and savagely beat into unconsciousness anyone who accidentally touches her. Oh, and she needs someone to take care of her all day because she may freak out with no real warning. I want to bring her on as a contractor and everyone has to sign away their legal rights in the event that she puts them in a coma. Sound good? Let's get a start date!"

Not going to happen. Ever. Non negotiable. 99% of what Murray describes is impossible, so immoral that several social services groups would have descended by now or so illegal that it's laughable that anyone online bought it for very long, but if the Internet has taught me nothing, it's taught me that people are trusting and other people like to test that trust.

So what say you, Seebs? Broken bread with the clan? Been in the same room? Are you a victim of Murray's imagination or are you in on the ruse? And I say ruse - Murray doesn't seem to be seeking anything but attention. But unless you've been in the presence of all of Murray's people, you may want to take a step back and analyze all of this information with more dispassion.

 

[talk talk talk]

So, I've been reading all of this and yet I can't tell if Seebs has actually been in a room with any of Murray's creations. Seebs claims to "know" them and has known them for years but how so? Does Seebs know them all online and maybe via chatting? Various online groups and SL sex rooms? I'm thinking Seebs may be a victim of this ruse, just like everyone who swore up and down the family in the Warrior Eli scam were real because they'd talked to them on Facebook. But I may have missed if Seebs insists (s)he's broken bread or spent Father's Day with this bizarre sex cult.

But let's all be clear as we investigate - Murray is a man who suffered a loss and created a host of characters who met his emotional needs. There are no feral shit smearing nubile girls with the minds of Stephen Hawking beating the shit out of middle-managers. There may be one peripheral person involved in Murray's strangeness but for now it's all him. He's very likely used the names of real people to represent the characters in his head but if there are more than two separate people involved in and aware of this strange ruse, I too will eat a hat.

No company is going to permit on premises someone who is so unstable he or she will beat anyone who touches them. All it takes is someone brushing up against them accidentally in a stairwell or an elevator or a bathroom and it's all over. And as @Southern Belle noted, you cannot be made to sign away any rights you have to seek legal or civil redress by employer request or demand. All HR reps would have shit themselves at the following: "Hi, we have this genius level programmer who is largely non-verbal, has dicey bathroom habits, is hyper-sexual, doesn't like clothes, cannot be trusted around sharp objects or even hard corners on tables, and may come unglued and savagely beat into unconsciousness anyone who accidentally touches her. Oh, and she needs someone to take care of her all day because she may freak out with no real warning. I want to bring her on as a contractor and everyone has to sign away their legal rights in the event that she puts them in a coma. Sound good? Let's get a start date!"

Not going to happen. Ever. Non negotiable. 99% of what Murray describes is impossible, so immoral that several social services groups would have descended by now or so illegal that it's laughable that anyone online bought it for very long, but if the Internet has taught me nothing, it's taught me that people are trusting and other people like to test that trust.

So what say you, Seebs? Broken bread with the clan? Been in the same room? Are you a victim of Murray's imagination or are you in on the ruse? And I say ruse - Murray doesn't seem to be seeking anything but attention. But unless you've been in the presence of all of Murray's people, you may want to take a step back and analyze all of this information with more dispassion.

When you lay it out like this, you can really see how much of a wish-fulfillment fantasy this is.

Edit I'm going to repeat my earlier observation. Assuming everything we have been told about "Lissa" is true, why the fuck do you take this person out to a work site? She can code like a demon at home and there is no risk of a chance encounter with a co-worker or a table. Since she is non-verbal, there is nothing to be gained from social interaction at the work site.

This story makes no sense as anything but a fantasy.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Do you think Murray's sons might have any idea about what's going on?

Anyways, their thread is still going and Lissa is online right now. Apparently she can't work at home because the project she's working on is a multimillion dollar laser device, and there are no public records of her at all because she's been declared incompetent by a court.

How she got away with beating up her coworker:

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Why she can't work at home:

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Why there are no public records of her (how convenient):

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[Southern Belle]

OSHA applies to more than just construction areas... Dear lord, that was pulled right from the OSHA handbook.

So nobody's going to touch the issue of a company forcing an employee to sign away their rights to compensation when faced with workplace violence? Let's assume the company told the employee that if they filed charges or did anything in retaliation to the severe beating into unconsciousness they received, they will be fired. If they file for worker's comp, they will be fired. That, too, is against the law and is considered intimidation. They do realize that under the Whistleblower laws that's illegal, correct? These are laws that cannot be superseded by employment contracts. Even in California. Under worker's comp, the employee she beat the tea total shit out of is legally entitled to compensation, and again these cannot be superseded by employment contracts on behalf of the employer. this is Federal level shit here. Not some 2-bit backwoods no-name county.

and no, people don't keep bringing it up so your "poor memory will let it go" people keep bringing it up because the holes in the plot are miles wide and you're trying to patch them up by playing on sympathy.

EDIT: No documentation? If she was declared incompetent by a court, there will be court records of the fact. They would also list her legal guardian as well. Clerk of the Courts are where people turn to for public records, even for things as small and unimportant as "The court sent X paper to Y building on Z-date." Even if it has nothing to do with anything. Seriously. That shit is METICULOUS. That's not even including requesting more detailed information under the Freedom of Information Act. So.... there's documentation somewhere. Additionally, if you get hired by big important companies, there's things called taxes. If they are not taken out of your pay, then you have to pay them yourself. So I'm pretty sure the IRS would have a record somewhere. And if not, then I'm sure they'd like their share of your money, honey.

 

[talk talk talk]

"Lissa's" story was that she works in a cube farm on a bad computer supplied by the company. She's a code monkey, not a mechanical engineer, so she has no reason to actually touch the "multimilion dollar laser device" or even be within a thousand miles of it. There's no reason why she can't log into their VPN from home and type and shit from there.

Look at her described behavior-even when she isn't beating the shit out of someone, she's hopping around with a shit-filled diaper. There's no way they are letting her anywhere near this thing.

Try harder, Murray J. Root.

 

[Dog Prom 3D]

Do you think Murray's sons might have any idea about what's going on?

Anyways, their thread is still going and Lissa is online right now. Apparently she can't work at home because the project she's working on is a multimillion dollar laser device.

How she got away with beating up her coworker:

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Why she can't work at home:

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Murray, it doesn't matter who it was who was beaten and kicked until he couldn't stand up anymore. No company in the United States would permit onsite a fecalphiliac with autism so profound they could not reliably communicate and around whom others must sign away their rights to physical safety. Period. End stop. It's over, your story is nonsense. There is no level of genius that would make a corporation absorb such a crazy amount of liability.

But let's remember the original story, which is posted on the first page of this thread.

The story went initially that this man evidently grabbed Lissa's shoulders as she was dancing around maniacally in the entrance to her cubicle, waiting for her computer to boot up. The man didn't hold her against her will in the original "don't touch the faerie" story. He didn't have time to - she attacked him too quickly.

Moreover this new version indicates that literally everyone who entered the building where Lissa worked had to legally surrender their right not to be beaten senseless if they accidentally touched her because according to this most recent version the man she beat nearly to death was a complete stranger to her, although an employee of the company. If this was what Lissa did when a stranger touched her bare arms, what would she do if someone carrying boxes didn't see her and bumped into her or a teenage intern who thought her nearly naked sundress was adorable lightly touched her elbow when she said it?

Additionally, if he was a stranger to her, how did he know she was the person whom he was not permitted to touch? Did HR have a meeting for all existing and new employees with a slideshow featuring Lissa so they all knew what could happen if they brushed by next to her in an elevator? Were visitors given forms to sign each time they entered the building? HR would have been forced to spend an extraordinary amount of time and money making sure everyone knew this autistic fairy was literally too dangerous to be in an hallway with other people.

But that's what makes this Murray Sue so cute to him - she's such a genius the company will endanger everyone who walks into that office just to have on staff a violent, autistic woman who can't be left alone with scissors because she's just that amazing.

Murray's retrofitting his bullshit as holes are punched in the story. Remember this because it will happen again as more problems are found with his stories: in the original version Lissa was not restrained by the man she allegedly beat and was known enough to her that she knew he was a manager though she now claims he was a stranger. We can assume he was an older man since Lissa boasted of breaking his dentures and she also boasted of kicking him repeatedly in the genitals once he was down, and HR was fine with her nearly killing an elderly manager.

Also, according to one of Lissa entries on 4/18/15, I thought Lissa had to have an office that could be locked from the outside and fitted with a panic bar yet here she's dancing at the entry of her CUBICLE without her caretaker on hand to prevent and manage her outbursts. Was it the handler's sick day, Murray? Were you in a cubicle until the shit could get cleaned off your office walls? Was the incident at a new job, indicating that a second workplace had to accommodate your strange requirements and willingly waste man hours and employee safety just to have a genius like Lissa stim in sundresses? We await the new version of the events that day.

 

[Sharonthecat]

Just gonna drop this here. Looks like I've g me a fan. Hi Sugah!
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So what company was it? By all means, if this is true, the paperwork should be filed somewhere with someone. A quick phone call to a human resources department can verify whether or not a person worked there, and if they were a regular employee or an independent contractor. They can't give out personal details, of course. That's against the law. However, they CAN answer simple questions such as "In special circumstances, is it company policy to employ independent contractors under special terms such as: (list terms here)? If not, what is the company's standard policy regarding employing independent contractors?"

And again - absolutely no other witness, nor company security thought "holy fuck, this is serious! someone call this man an ambulance! someone call 911!"

See, here's a thing. If something like this happened, whether it be self defense or not, incidents such as this can get companies shut down. It would cost more to scrub any evidence that such a thing happened and such a person worked there than it would to simply tell police "yeah, we're not going to press charges".

And depending on the state it happened in, it doesn't matter whether he can do anything as the victim or not, because the man she supposedly beat up is the victim, NOT HER - all it takes is one report against the company itself for negligence to the labor board and THEY can open an investigation.

Not to mention the clear OSHA and Workers Compensation Law violations the company would also be required, by law, to deal with - police or no police.

and looking at the list of former residences Mr. Root has lived in, and assuming "Lissa" is a real person and has had to go with him everywhere - those are all states where the police can file charges without the consent of the victim if they feel a situation is warranted.

The fact no one, absolutely no single witness to this event did ANYTHING to help stop or get outside help shows this either did not happen, or at the very least criminal negligence and OSHA violations galore.

Also, bullshit on the "he signed a contract to not do anything" because BY US FEDERAL LAW no employer may prevent an employee from enacting their rights to seek compensation or validation of workplace violence of any kind. This not only applies to the disabled, but to the able-bodies as well. And by actively denying employees their rights under OSHA as well as Workers Compensation law, the company is held liable for all damages AS WELL AS actively breaking the law.

I wish I could give this a boxful of Winner stars. Get rekt, Tumblrina.

 

[glutenfreebooty]

This thread is probably the most insane thing I've read in a long time.

Would losing his wife alone be enough to make Unca Murray go this crazy, or has the rest of his family removing themselves from his life had something to do with it as well? Also, what's his fixation on shit-smearing sex goblins?

 

[RM 810]

Do you think Murray's sons might have any idea about what's going on?

Anyways, their thread is still going and Lissa is online right now. Apparently she can't work at home because the project she's working on is a multimillion dollar laser device, and there are no public records of her at all because she's been declared incompetent by a court.

How she got away with beating up her coworker:

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Why she can't work at home:

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Why there are no public records of her:

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You know, for a low-functioning autist she sure has got a good grasp of sarcasm, and is being awfully rude about other people's comprehension abilities, even when she herself admits she can't understand most things.

Almost like something funny's going on.

I like how both Lyssa and "Baby" manage to only have the symptoms of their various disorders that make them nubile loli waifs, instead of ones that would make them physically unappealing.

Spoiler: Warning, sexxxy Turner chicks

 

[Meowthkip]

You know, for a low-functioning autist she sure has got a good grasp of sarcasm, and is being awfully rude about other people's comprehension abilities, even when she herself admits she can't understand most things.

Almost like something funny's going on.

Almost like Murray's sweating bullets 'cause nobody's ever challenged him on this craziness before and his attempts at hand-waving and guilt-tripping aren't working.

 

[MysteriousStranger]

I have never heard of anyone with zero verbal skills who was an articulate writer. I can't even imagine such a thing, except in the context of a very specific kind of brain damage. Stroke, maybe.

Murray, I feel bad for you. I swear to god I do. But fantasies are fantasies and should stay in your head. The moment you let them loose on the real world, they wither and die.

 

[Dog Prom 3D]

Almost like Murray's sweating bullets 'cause nobody's ever challenged him on this craziness before and his attempts at hand-waving and guilt-tripping aren't working.

And it's dumb to be panicking. Some people engage in this sort of elaborate fantasy. Generally they let others know that their life, on some level, is a dissociative LARP but it happens, you know. Hard life events can make people go a bit weird.

Unless there's financial chicanery behind the scenes, like people contributing to the upkeep of these demented poo-nymphs, Murray has nothing to be ashamed of (other than letting us know the way his fantasies work). He's not a conman or a scammer. Just admit he's a little nutty and people will move on. They always do. And because he has a pretty sound case for a breakdown caused by his wife's very real death, his online friends may end up being very sympathetic.

It's not the end of the world. Murray may face very few sanctions in his peer group for these shenanigans.

 

[ON 190]

I have to thank this thread for giving me my new favorite term: "shit-covered sex goblin."

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

I'm pretty sure that, no matter what kind of "contract" the man had to sign promising that he wouldn't touch Fairy Sue, "her" reaction was disproportionate enough that it would have warranted some kind of trouble for her, especially since she displays pride at the assault instead of "oh my god I did this thing involuntarily because of my problems and it was a bad thing to do". Again, in the original faerie tale, the man just touched her shoulders. He didn't restrain her or stop her from moving. Slapping him across the face, punching him once, or giving him a knee in the balls miiiiiiight be acceptable given how touchphobic she is (pretending that any of this is even real). Beating him to the ground, breaking personal property, repeated genital assault, et cetera is just fucking ridiculous.
If Fairy Sue was truly disabled, and so touchphobic that she assaults people who touch her shoulders, then she would definitely have to be in some sort of counseling, therapy, or other psychological treatment. An episode like this would have gotten her carted off to her shrink to work on her violent responses. Sure, if she was "incompetent" then she might not have legal repercussions, but at the very least she would have to go through some kind of behavior-correcting program with a trained psychologist/therapist/what have you.
And if she's got a regular steady job that pays her, she'd definitely have a mental health professional assigned to her. Even if pigs suddenly started flapping around and this fictional company would have hired Fairy Sue even knowing all her fucking "issues", the first condition would be to assign her an offsite mental health professional in addition to a minder.

 

[talk talk talk]

Not sure which term is better:

Murray Sue
or
Fairy Sue

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

What kind of desk job would require that you go on a boat..?

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[talk talk talk]

Well, it was an interesting night of farming, as the salt and milk flowed, and even ol’ Pedo-Stache emerged from behind his super-genius sex goblin. There’s a lot of orbiter ass-patting I’m going to skip and instead I’ll concentrate on messages from the Murray-verse.

Here, Murray tries to squirm out of the fact that Turner Syndrome has exactly the opposite symptoms of his sex goblin. The explanation is, of course, :autism:

This is an interesting bit where Murray tells us the “Alicia Ward is Lissa” theory is wrong. Which is a win, I guess?

“Ha ha! Can’t find me!”

“They are SO IMMATURE!”

“Thanks for the ass-pats!”

 

[autism420]

Programming guru but doesn't know what a VPN is

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Programming guru but doesn't know what a VPN is

Do we even know if Alicia is posting anything? We don't know about any of that person's accounts, we just know her name and her hometown.

 

[Meowthkip]

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Football jackets? Really?

Hate to break it to you, Murray, but we're also a bunch of fucking nerds. There are a lot of posters with cartoon and anime characters in their avatars. We go to conventions and participate in fandoms. We read comic books and Star Wars novels. We also sit around on the internet all day gawking at weirdos weirder than we are, because the ex-jocks you described are too busy getting catfished by dudes pretending to be hotter and prettier girls than the women they married. At least, I assume that's how normies spend their time. I wouldn't know. I can't even remember so much as glancing at a football jacket in high school. I was hanging around with the anime nerds and the stoners.

Does he honestly think some fucking NORP would care enough to post on a forum like this? Or any forum that isn't about, I don't know, jelking or something? I assume those kinds of people only use the Internet for Facebook and sex stuff.

Who even wears varsity letter jackets in this day and age?