Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

Perhaps it’s better this way, thought the trough of nicknames may appear endless, there’s only so many ways you can refer to this faggot, so we need to keep some powder dry.
Humans are creatures of pattern and habit. The longer we deal with Patrick, the more likely we are to fall into a hamster wheel of 20 or so names. We need fresh Patposters to give fresh names. Fortunately, Patrick seems eager to give us those.
 
It's okay Patrick, two of my favourite hockey teams is also doing poorly this season with half of their games lost. Though Florida i second in the Atlantic Division so at least one of the three are doing well. We can't all have winning favoruite teams in sports. If we did sports would be rather boring.
 
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Patty Meatloaf just posted this. Are there any recordings of his first appearance at ConFusion? I really hope someone will record his STDs in Space!! lecture.

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Now I've not looked up enough caselaw on the fed level as to what harassment is.

eeoc.gov has:

In general, teasing, casual comments, or single instances of inappropriate conduct are not illegal. For inappropriate behavior to rise to the level of illegal harassment, it must be unwelcome or unwanted. It must also be severe (meaning very serious) or pervasive (meaning that it happened frequently).

The scope of EEOC is outside of Patricks situation.

Closer to his situation. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1514#d_1

(B) the term “harassment” means a serious act or course of conduct directed at a specific person that—
(i) causes substantial emotional distress in such person; and
(ii)serves no legitimate purpose;

Laughing at Patrick I'm gonna guess isn't a legitimate purpose. But telling someone about his past VS his present position might be found as legitimate. Especially if the response lacks farts, Jennifer, toilets or whatever....

As to fucking himself comments on phone harassment via quora include:

How many texts count as harassment?
Do not text a person if you have texted them twice or more times without a response. This will be considered harassment, especially if these messages are sent over an extended period of time.

How many calls is considered harassment?
If the person being called doesn't want the call in the first place even just one or two calls can be considered harassment. start by blocking their number. if they find another way to contact you block them. at some point you may have to consider a restraining order.

Like Jackie trying to pick fights with the swatters Patrick is screwing up enforcement opportunities with his conduct.
The SWATs aside, if real, Jennifer is not being harassed. Other people do not have a burden to not contact you, Rick makes himself publicly available and does nothing to stop it, so a reasonable person would conclude that he is open to being contacted. The Milwaukee Police can't order everyone on the planet not to call a phone number just because the person doesn't want to change it. Unless you've already been convicted of harassing Patirck it's not a felony to do it and there's no police force on the planet that's going to spend the resources to track down every person who could have plausibly committed a misdemeanor offense. They're definitely not going to kick it up to the feds because the feds aren't going to touch it because they'd ruin their careers trying to fit the world's stupidest case into any federal laws.

There's no reason to fall into the same issue Jennifer has in thinking everything he doesn't like somehow must be against the law. This simply isn't the kind of thing the police need to handle. And it's one they're not going to handle the instant they become aware of the man.

The SWATs are a different story, but 1. Rick seems to have handled them down to a minor to no nuisance and actively looks forward to them now and b. there is absolutely zero credible reason to believe anyone who does one thing must be guilty of another thing and it is incredibly unjust to charge people for an effective non-crime because you can't find out who is doing the crime. The police have no reason to be interested in who is doing the SWATs because it affects or upsets Pat or the person might be a jerk, they have an interest because it's a misuse of police services.
 
Laughing at Patrick I'm gonna guess isn't a legitimate purpose.
It's entirely legitimate. Doing it to threaten or intimidate him wouldn't be legitimate. There's nothing illegal or even immoral about mocking an asshole for his repellent behavior. No legitimate purpose also generally means none whatsoever. In other words, if you called him fat because you disapprove of obesity, the fact you were also amused by him flailing around denying being fat, while staring fatly at you wouldn't defeat the (second better) purpose.
Other people do not have a burden to not contact you, Rick makes himself publicly available and does nothing to stop it, so a reasonable person would conclude that he is open to being contacted.
I still wouldn't continue to contact someone on a phone number if they say not to, even if they do continue to engage. It's just asking for trouble. There isn't some hard and fast rule that someone being harassed isn't allowed to respond. It just makes it more difficult to prove and generally cops are just going to laugh at you if you give them a bunch of interactions like Pat has.

It doesn't make it legal though.
 
The SWATs aside, if real, Jennifer is not being harassed.

Disagree - but it's a fine only in WI.
Harassment

(1m) Whoever, with intent to harass or intimidate another person, does any of the following is subject to a Class B forfeiture:
(a) Strikes, shoves, kicks or otherwise subjects the person to physical contact or attempts or threatens to do the same.
(b) Engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts which harass or intimidate the person and which serve no legitimate purpose.

With the 'I'll break your teeth' or whatever it was Pat said means the harassment goes both ways. Pat's conduct is part of why the charges haven't happened as you and others have noted 'It is just a conversation' along with Patrick being an abusive ass on social media. An abusive ass attracting abusive asses isn't gonna get the DA to bring charges. But if Patrick wasn't an abusive ass would he have attracted the pests or even have a thread here?

Or as the part 3 of the pretend podcast put it - this is all stupid, juvenile and everyone lost brain cells trying to figure all of this out.

The SWATs are a different story, but 1. Rick seems to have handled them down to a minor to no nuisance and actively looks forward to them now

From the swatting statute:

(2) Whoever, knowing the information is false, intentionally conveys, or causes to be conveyed, any false information that an emergency exists is guilty of a Class I felony if the information elicits, or could elicit, a response from a specialized tactical team.

That 'could' part is bothersome but by saying 'could' it allows the DA to charge for even when an officer calls to say 'just checking in, we got another call'.

Looking at the statute Patrick might be looking forward to it because he hopes the swatter(s?) fuck up and get nailed.
 
I still wouldn't continue to contact someone on a phone number if they say not to, even if they do continue to engage. It's just asking for trouble. There isn't some hard and fast rule that someone being harassed isn't allowed to respond. It just makes it more difficult to prove and generally cops are just going to laugh at you if you give them a bunch of interactions like Pat has.

It doesn't make it legal though.
That's more of what I'm saying, that he basically hasn't done anything but complain and expect prison. The police, and especially prosecutors, don't just respond to every Karen Jennifer who bitches to them, they're going to ask what you've done when they're judging what they should do about it. Nobody's going to interpret the law in Rick's favor.
 
I love it when a regular person stumbles into Pat and proceeds to shut his fat ass down with extreme prejudice. It never gets old.
The context is great, too, he's in some sportsball thread pretending to be a man, and he suddenly acts like a retard (turns comments off in a discussion thread). Someone is like "why are you acting like a retard?" "Read this thread, child." "Lmao no, fuck off retard."

Can you imagine responding to someone asking a totally normal question with a weird, autistic demand they go off and read some thread?
Nobody's going to interpret the law in Rick's favor.
A case in point would be the Nadolsky thing where Pat tried to sue over someone feloniously having a drink at Hoolie's. Arguably (a weak argument granted), while you need no reason to have a drink at a public establishment, there really isn't much purpose of deliberately telling Fatty you're doing it. It's to annoy him. I don't think it comes up to the legal definition of "annoy" in a harassment statute, which excludes protected behavior, but whatever.

Pat showed up and was a giant asshole. Nadolsky was basically sorry we're here, I was being an idiot. Guess who won?

In a case that trivial, if the judge is going to bother making any decision at all, it's who was the asshole. If you make that decision easy, you're the one who loses.
 
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This is interesting - the debts are separate so this 10k he owes is still technically part of the first one.
So Fat's already over 50 K in the hole and the second, better debt is yet to come. He's really gonna end up turning that free 100 grand from sci-fi pedophiles into negative 100 000. I'm so sorry, Lynne. Hope you weren't planning to retire before turning eighty.
 
Pat ranting about the stalkers is especially funny to me considering he regularly tweets at accounts he has blocked.

Like Leslie. She gets the "enjoy prison stalker child treatment" constantly.

She can't even comment on something Pat adjacent without him publicly posting a threat to her job.

You can't really argue that she engages since she can't see the actually tweets and to Pat's greatest rage, she doesn't care. The only thing she ever does is explain to some random person as why a fat hog is upset at her.
 
One thing that is baffling about Fatrick, is that surely most people would have come to a revelation and sought mental help by now.

He really must be mentally unwell or more likely, is just a belligerent arsehole who really lacks self awareness.
Most people with personality disorders have next to no awareness that their behaviour is problematic and will think nothing of it. Delusions are present in about a quarter of patients, and they may range from intermittent to persistent. I genuinely believe Pat thinks he is the personification of intelligence. His distinct lack of self-awareness is extremely telling. There is no breaking character for him, if he's even capable of doing so, as it would cause extreme levels of distress. Heavy substance use (alcohol), poor lifestyle habits (fat), and unbridled anger are again all telling signs. No friends, no family contact—just the idea he is a "thought leader" speaking to literal bots in the vast expanse of the internet with no hint of irony—is Pats world. He has poor impulse control and is at the whims of his volatile emotions. He would've been bullied relentlessly at school, and I'm sure many lockers had his indentation. An acknowledgement of failure could very well make him spiral.

All I'm saying is that he's beyond help, and you shouldn't care either way because he's a piece of shit.
 
It's okay Patrick, two of my favourite hockey teams is also doing poorly this season with half of their games lost. Though Florida i second in the Atlantic Division so at least one of the three are doing well. We can't all have winning favoruite teams in sports. If we did sports would be rather boring.
Go BRUINS
 
So Fat's already over 50 K in the hole and the second, better debt is yet to come. He's really gonna end up turning that free 100 grand from sci-fi pedophiles into negative 100 000. I'm so sorry, Lynne. Hope you weren't planning to retire before turning eighty.
He's also supposed to pay taxes on that if it wasn't a loan which it doesn't appear to be from the SFWA tax filings far as I remember, and if it was he'd have to pay it back which is worse.
 
A case in point would be the Nadolsky thing where Pat tried to sue over someone feloniously having a drink at Hoolie's. Arguably (a weak argument granted), while you need no reason to have a drink at a public establishment, there really isn't much purpose of deliberately telling Fatty you're doing it. It's to annoy him. I don't think it comes up to the legal definition of "annoy" in a harassment statute, which excludes protected behavior, but whatever.

2007AP347 has mention of the 'legitimate purpose' standard and cites Bachowski with "813.125 may not rest on conduct that serves a legitimate purpose. However, whether conduct serves a legitimate purpose is a determination that must of necessity be left to the fact finder, taking into account all the facts and circumstances."

Bachowski with "In this case the judge concluded that Salamone's repeated yelling at Bachowski constituted harassment."

There is good reason to not interact with the provider of milk and it's not to avoid the aftertaste of pepperoni. There is a ride here one can avoid riding just by letting someone who's more messed up than the readers of this thread are poke and pod at Patrick.

What you, myself, and others here think is a legit purpose doesn't matter in a courtroom that becomes the job of the finder of fact. I hear Quasi's dad has the ability to find facts so perhaps he can get asked?
 
Xitter roundup.

Pat spending the weekend getting rinsed by football fans (this is a small taste):

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Patty Meatloaf demonstrating the art of felony Jennifer-posting - no words required to result in enjoying prison:

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Political Pat returns, makes more new friends:

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