Unpopular Opinions about Video Games

[el bandito loco]

I love crackwhores as much as the next degenerate but I'm here to talk about shit I like that objectively sucks or the opposite.

on topic: from what I see the general consensus online appears to now be Gen 3 of Pokémon is a lot of people's favorite. I'm here to tell you I thought it sucked in 2003, and I think it sucks now. for clarification I've played gen 1/2 through many times since I was a kid. I got Pokémon Sapphire a week after launch for my birthday and I got LeafGreen when it came out also. I have never went back to these games until the last month I got some random Pokémon nostalgia and decided to play some Gen 1 & 2 ROM hacks. I played basic ones that just included the ability to complete your pokedex only for yellow and crystal, then some ones that change things up and have a new story or add QoL and new Pokemon that was pretty cool some of those are insanely well done. After this I decided I should download a vanilla hack of Emerald with a completable pokedex. I never played Emerald and remember so little of the story from Sapphire that regardless this would basically be like playing gen 3 the first time for me.

I went into this assuming I would love it. I figured that I probably disliked it for stupid kid reasons mixed with the fact I was growing out of the franchise at the time anyways. I didn't like it much. and a lot of this is superficial but here's why: the game is fucking ugly. Sure the graphics are better than gen 1/2 on original game boy but the designs are too round and ugly. also, the new pokemon suck ass. the designs are mostly terrible and beyond just being ugly, the way the scaling is with what you can get and when is mostly terrible. you get tons of useless fucks throughout the game. you barely get any with specific types like fire or electric or whatever for like the first half of the game you only find bugs and flying pokemon. they suck! Gen 2 has more of a problem of it's mainly the original Pokemon but the 100 they added are at least useful. My other big problem with the game is that the two coolest things about 2 (day/night cycle, kanto backtracking) are gone which are replaced by bullshit the game is bloated by shit that sucks. Pokemon contests? Pokeblocks? secret bases? that shit is gay and useless.

It was a new engine on a new system so I can excuse not having another region that's a pipedream anyways, and I will say the amount of content in Emeralds Battle Frontier makes up for that probably (I'm not done with it that shit is hard). but the day/night system is gone and replaced with weather which almost never changes and does absolutely dick. On paper the weather system is cool different things have different effects. however it only really affects certain static areas and never seems to change. If they had that on top of a day/night system and it could happen anywhere it would have been awesome. Why the fuck not? also in emerald you can rematch gym leaders. Cool right? No. Not cool because I can't just go do it. You have a 30% chance after every 60 wild Pokemon fights for them to call you and offer a rematch. What the fuck? Just let me go do it. Fuck you.

mechanically the game is fine but just feels somehow incomplete and bloated at the same time. Lots of added things like contests, expanded berry system, variant bike types, but none of it is fleshed out enough to be a worthwhile addition with the exception of the battle frontier and that's ONLY in Emerald. I don't think it's a bad game by any means but truly don't understand why people like it more than gen 2 at least. the new Pokemon suck, and the added systems feel like optional wastes of time. the thing it has going for it the most is that the team rocket replacements, team aqua and team magma are so fucking retarded that they make the story endearing because it's kinda funny. Oh yeah and double battles are cool. I like that just fine.

 

[The Last Stand]

I don't play a lot of Ubisoft titles, so I am not necessarily affected with burnout. Watch Dogs 2 and Far Cry 5 were their best from recent memory. I AM tired of collectibles in open worlds where you have to go out your way to find random knickknacks.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

My problem with modern sports games is that they often end up being the same game year after year with roster changes being the only big difference.

I do find it amusing that somehow sports games get worse every year.

The other thing with sports games is that they somehow stripped, neglected and broke the single-player Franchise modes that were much more robust two decades ago.

Part of it seems to be their sociopathic shift to Ultimate Team modes, lootboxes and microtransactions.

My mind was blown when I picked up the next gen at the time XB1 version of an EA game at the same time as friends picked up the 360 version.

The current gen one looked amazing, but the single player Franchise mode didn't have a fucking draft, nor could the AI offer trades.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I spoke highly of the FPS era and how that was the last era that video games had, where games were by gamers, for gamers. Now I will say something negative about it. The FPS era was the first time when one genre over-dominated over the rest. Even during the era of JRPG dominance during the PS2 era, you still saw a healthy amount of experimentation with gaming, where you had FPS games like the Jedi Knight series, the Halo series, the Battlefront and early Call of Duty series, the Counterstrike series, and they co-existed with all sorts of action, RPG, racing, space combat, exploration and other games that all tried something different on their own.

However, during the age of FPS dominance, which was heralded by the Xbox 360 era of games such as Halo 3 and Call of Duty Modern Warfare, the shooter genre gained a supreme advantage over the other genres, to the point where it started to rub off on them. While this led to the creation of great games like Mass Effect 1-3, Fallout 3 and New Vegas, Halos 3, 4, ODST, and Reach, it did force a certain streamlining effect on gaming as a whole. Budding game studios just farted out their own copy of Halo or CoD even if they weren't as good as say, Battlefront or Republic Commando, while the FPS games that did dominate were forced to make more, and once the FPS boom began to burst, gaming started to lose its creative edge.

Sure, some games outside of the FPS genre started to gain relevance again, like how the Witcher and Souls games started getting popular around this time, but the rest of the genres that were vibrant in the early 2000s have yet to make a full comeback. JRPGs are barely there. WRPGs are still in a wobbly place. Space combat sims barely have a mark. And to complicate matters further, the SJW influx meant that games will try to please activist groups that don't really care about creativity so long as their needs are met, further narrowing the vision of game companies.

 

[The Foxtrot]

Sure, some games outside of the FPS genre started to gain relevance again, like how the Witcher and Souls games started getting popular around this time,

Witcher, good. Demon's Souls clones, extremely bad. I'd say that Demon's Souls clones fucked the industry almost as hard as when MMORPGs started going F2P.

 

[Asian tech support]

Witcher, good. Demon's Souls clones, extremely bad. I'd say that Demon's Souls clones fucked the industry almost as hard as when MMORPGs started going F2P.

Regardless of what people think about the Witcher, I think a lot of effort went into them and they're too much work to imitate. I like TW3 but it needs a lot of QoL mods. Bite me, I don't care.
All of the shitty Souls clones have only made me appreciate the originals more. They're simple games but it's staggering how so many clones fail to ape the good parts. Not every one needs a gimmick.

 

[The Foxtrot]

All of the shitty Souls clones have only made me appreciate the originals more. They're simple games but it's staggering how so many clones fail to ape the good parts. Not every one needs a gimmick.

There are good parts to "dodge roll dodge roll dodge roll hit once YOU ARE DEAD"?

 

[Raging Capybara]

I shat on Mass Effect earlier on this thread, calling its writing dogshit, but it's way worse than I thought.

Never played ME3 so I didn't know about that. But apparently, if you carry your saves from the previous game and some previous party member died, they just replace them with some other generic NPC and their missions proceed identically as if your older buddy was still alive. Holy shit.

Morton died? Here, talk with this other Salarian who is going to do and say the same shit. Wrex is dead? Don't worry, his cousin or brother is coming to replace him and do exactly the same stuff.

It's embarrassing. Whoever likes Mass Effect should commit suicide right now.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

I spoke highly of the FPS era and how that was the last era that video games had, where games were by gamers, for gamers. Now I will say something negative about it. The FPS era was the first time when one genre over-dominated over the rest. Even during the era of JRPG dominance during the PS2 era, you still saw a healthy amount of experimentation with gaming, where you had FPS games like the Jedi Knight series, the Halo series, the Battlefront and early Call of Duty series, the Counterstrike series, and they co-existed with all sorts of action, RPG, racing, space combat, exploration and other games that all tried something different on their own.

However, during the age of FPS dominance, which was heralded by the Xbox 360 era of games such as Halo 3 and Call of Duty Modern Warfare, the shooter genre gained a supreme advantage over the other genres, to the point where it started to rub off on them. While this led to the creation of great games like Mass Effect 1-3, Fallout 3 and New Vegas, Halos 3, 4, ODST, and Reach, it did force a certain streamlining effect on gaming as a whole. Budding game studios just farted out their own copy of Halo or CoD even if they weren't as good as say, Battlefront or Republic Commando, while the FPS games that did dominate were forced to make more, and once the FPS boom began to burst, gaming started to lose its creative edge.

Sure, some games outside of the FPS genre started to gain relevance again, like how the Witcher and Souls games started getting popular around this time, but the rest of the genres that were vibrant in the early 2000s have yet to make a full comeback. JRPGs are barely there. WRPGs are still in a wobbly place. Space combat sims barely have a mark. And to complicate matters further, the SJW influx meant that games will try to please activist groups that don't really care about creativity so long as their needs are met, further narrowing the vision of game companies.

The late 7th and early 8th gens were a rough period. I wouldn’t even say it was full FPS dominance, but moreso this aura of “hardcore games” which usually boiled down to M-Rated COD and Assasin’s Creed likes. M-Rated open worlds were about as much a cancer as FPS around the same time.

From there gaming pretty much became “Hardcore” or Nintendo. Sure, there were a few notable titles like Batman Arkham, Uncharted, GTA5, Street Fighter 4/ MVC3, Mortal Kombat 9/ Injustice, Minecraft, LBP, TLOU and Sonic Generations that got popular outside the circles, but honestly not much (and many of the mentioned could probably fit into the later).

Tons of good games of that era are getting more popular now as they were either bombs or sidelined post release. R&C Future duology, Twisted Metal 2012, Lollipop Chainsaw, Catherine, Alice Madness Returns, Skull Girls, Sly 4, PS All-Stars, Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing, etc..

 

[The Ugly One]

You guys want to have the cake and eat it all the time, just like some crackwhore.
Either I'm a soyfag because I used the reference from a game I know and play or I have no idea from where it is and used it because it was a funny picture.

This is what I was talking about earlier on the opinions on society vs the individual and the complete social dissonance in the critique you had of me.

Or even the aspect of one of you calling me a kid and an other (you) calling me gramps. Talk about grasping for straws.
All you care about is the crack, everything else is secondary and a way to defend the use of it. Which is why your opinions are a conflated mess.

God, stop being such a fucking niggerfaggot. Just stop. Pull the cocks out of your ass and use some lightening skin cream, we get it, you are both a dicksucking homo and a boot-lipped negro, you've made your point, now go be normal or something.

 

[Pissmaster]

No, that's the best part. Because unlike all of you who call each others fags and soyboys over a game that you still reference obscure details years after it's come out while I don't and nor do I care.

There's no better way to show butthurt than to assert how much you don't care after you posted something stupid and got mocked for it.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

on topic: from what I see the general consensus online appears to now be Gen 3 of Pokémon is a lot of people's favorite

Almost nobody liked those games at the time. I distinctly remember being in the minority for liking it back then. It only suddenly became everyone's favorite when ORAS were announced.

 

[el bandito loco]

Almost nobody liked those games at the time. I distinctly remember being in the minority for liking it back then. It only suddenly became everyone's favorite when ORAS were announced.

I wasn't sure what people thought back then, I was a kid and most people I knew irl at the time liked it just because it was the new one but I wasn't sure if I was the minority or not because in recent years everybody seems to fucking love them. I don't think it's a bad game, I just don't like it as much as 2 probably. I honestly think I like Colosseum & XD more than I liked Emerald but I also have problems with those games compared to Stadium 2. going back to Gen 3 20 years later has been educational for me because a lot of the two steps forward a step back shit I hear about the current Pokemon games I personally think game freak was already doing back then it probably has just gotten way worse.

 

[Pissmaster]

Almost nobody liked those games at the time. I distinctly remember being in the minority for liking it back then. It only suddenly became everyone's favorite when ORAS were announced.

There's a whole strange thing with how Nintendo was kinda shit back in the early-mid 2000s, and everyone knew it, but nowadays that whole notion just seemed to get wiped. I guess everyone who were kids at the time grew up and have fond memories of Gamecube and Game Boy Advance.

I remember Pokemon Ruby & Sapphire being good enough, but like, just another Pokemon game.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The late 7th and early 8th gens were a rough period. I wouldn’t even say it was full FPS dominance, but moreso this aura of “hardcore games” which usually boiled down to M-Rated COD and Assasin’s Creed likes. M-Rated open worlds were about as much a cancer as FPS around the same time.

The FPS domination era was early to mid-7th gen, like I said, it began with Halo 3 and Modern Warfare, which came out in 2007. Late 7th gen, the FPS bubble was beginning to burst, people were slowly getting tired of the formula, right around 2013 or so. Late 7th gen and early 8th gen had open-world games trying to ape Skyrim since that game sold a lot of copies. That was when the WRPGs were taking the wheel, as Skyrim was so successful that the Japs began to copy it for Zelda Breath of the Wild.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

There's a whole strange thing with how Nintendo was kinda shit back in the early-mid 2000s, and everyone knew it, but nowadays that whole notion just seemed to get wiped.

The Wii absolutely saved that company, to the point that Xenforo didn't flag it as a spelling error when I typed it in just now.

 

[SIMIΔN]

FTL is a fucking total load of bullshit

Died to the flagship again? Try killing everyone onboard but the isolated laser guy.

That way the ship can't repair any damaged systems. If he dies though, the ship AI autorepairs

I AM tired of collectibles in open worlds where you have to go out your way to find random knickknacks.

The worst offender for this was the otherwise great Arkham Knight. You couldn't do the final Riddler bossfight unless you collected each and l every trophy/riddle.

 

[el bandito loco]

There's a whole strange thing with how Nintendo was kinda shit back in the early-mid 2000s, and everyone knew it, but nowadays that whole notion just seemed to get wiped. I guess everyone who were kids at the time grew up and have fond memories of Gamecube and Game Boy Advance.

I remember Pokemon Ruby & Sapphire being good enough, but like, just another Pokemon game.

I'm in that age range but my older brother is 8 years older than me and I do remember him and my dad were totally pissed about wind waker's art style and some other things like that but I wasn't interacting online with games outside of gamefaqs walkthroughs yet so I never really saw any actual criticism because everyone my age was a retarded child so we basically liked anything if you could play it. we had the ps2 and the GameCube and I do remember that mostly I got GameCube games but they got ps2 games because outside of resident evil there really wasn't shit as far as "older" skewing games for GameCube they had any interest in. I'm pretty sure my dad only ever played those, metroid prime 1/2, twilight princess and weirdly chibi robo on gc every other game he ever bought was PlayStation.

I think a lot of the GameCube era nostalgia might also come from whether people's parents really gamed or not because if not and you only had the GameCube it was filled with bright Nintendo games with kids in mind so that's probably what you got, but if your dad did like mine he was pretty much like that thing sucks it has a baby controller and nothing cool on it. Lol

the other factor is definitely out of the box 4 player multiplayer and tons of 1st party games for that with people my age it's not uncommon to walk into someone's house for a gathering and they've dug out the GameCube and Mario soccer and party

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The Gamecube is underrated and over-hated. Lots of great games came out on that console, from Smash Bros Melee, Paper Mario 2, Rogue Squadron 2 and 3, Wario World, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Star Fox Adventures and Assault, Zelda Wind Waker, Mario Sunshine, the list goes on and on.

I never understood why it was hated. I mean, it had a strong starting lineup, the games were fun, the controller was well-designed, the fact that you can plug in memory cards means you can take your game and your playthrough to a friend's house, it had all you wanted from a console of that age. You can even plug in Game Boy games into the cube and play them onscreen with a later add-on. That was a wonder I never thought possible until then.

 

[el bandito loco]

The Gamecube is underrated and over-hated. Lots of great games came out on that console, from Smash Bros Melee, Paper Mario 2, Rogue Squadron 2 and 3, Wario World, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Star Fox Adventures and Assault, Zelda Wind Waker, Mario Sunshine, the list goes on and on.

I never understood why it was hated. I mean, it had a strong starting lineup, the games were fun, the controller was well-designed, the fact that you can plug in memory cards means you can take your game and your playthrough to a friend's house, it had all you wanted from a console of that age. You can even plug in Game Boy games into the cube and play them onscreen with a later add-on. That was a wonder I never thought possible until then.

besides Wario World (kinda sucks & too short) and Starfox Adventures (mediocre Ocarina of Time clone with not enough added star fox space shit once it rebranded from Dino Planet) I agree all those games plus tons more kick ass, but I definitely don't think GameCube is underrated now. people now hold it as like the greatest system of all time. The gameboy player was definitely a step up from the super gameboy (still pissed years later the transfer pack on 64 couldn't play any gbc games besides crystal and only had Pokemon functionality for original game boy and was just used for unlockables in everything else)

Nintendo first and second party was firing on all cylinders back then and even through the wii. I think the Wii is probably the most underrated and over hated console. that thing is stacked with great shit but the over reliance on motion controls, lack of hd, and lower power compared to it's contemporaries is why it's looked at the way it is today. Honestly if more games had just had alternate control modes than already do it'd probably be looked at entirely differently today. the Wii U on the other hand is a system I actually loved but was a total missed opportunity. I wrote it off for having a game boy with two Wii remotes taped to the sides for a controller when it came out but once I got one I liked the game pad a lot. the Zelda ports were fucking awesome with the map and inventory on it. I wish more JRPGs had been ported to it with that type of functionality. The 3DS Dragon Quest 7 & 8 ports would have been amazing as HD Wii U versions.