Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

For your daily dose of derangement, here is how NATOids see the world. I personally find the idea of NATO still existing in 2044 to be extremely optimistic.
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Badungus Kabungus said:
For your daily dose of derangement, here is how NATOids see the world. I personally find the idea of NATO still existing in 2044 to be extremely optimistic.
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I love how even in 2044, Orbán is still Nato cock blocking SWEDEN. SWEDEN NO!
 
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Fried-Rice12 said:
The NK munitions that Russia is using is likely the same stuff supplied to NK by the Soviet Union back when it was still around. Russia is simply going to their storage unit to pick up some stuff they deposited some 40-50 years ago.
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I doubt that. Rocket fuel degrades over time (see also the DDR-era Strela-2 AA missiles the Germans graciously donated to Ukraine at the start of the war that were useless, if not outright dangerous to the launcher crew). Best Korea has their own missile development program, as far as I know, they don't rely on ancient Soviet munitions.

Badungus Kabungus said:
For your daily dose of derangement, here is how NATOids see the world. I personally find the idea of NATO still existing in 2044 to be extremely optimistic.
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Russian hackers will target... trams in Spain and Italy! Oh no!
 
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Male Idiot said:
I love how even in 2044, Orbán is still Nato cock blocking SWEDEN. SWEDEN NO!
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Sweden is already falling apart. The place is swarming with ragheads and negroids to the point that some cities have nightly grenade and gun battles. Russia just needs to sit down and watch the place burn down.

Eternal Gopnik said:
I doubt that. Rocket fuel degrades over time (see also the DDR-era Strela-2 AA missiles the Germans graciously donated to Ukraine at the start of the war that were useless, if not outright dangerous to the launcher crew). Best Korea has their own missile development program, as far as I know, they don't rely on ancient Soviet munitions.
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By munitions I meant shells. I am doubtful that NK is actually supplying rockets and missiles to Russia, especially when the Great Leader is planning to fight SK.
 
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Anyway, I scrolled through the map article and found this:

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Ukrainian servicemen dressed in Russian uniforms attend anti-sabotage mock drills at the border with Belarus, amid Russia's attack on Ukraine, in Chernihiv region
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Another day, another example of Ukrainians indicating their willingness to commit war crimes while western journos clap like seals. It's all so tiresome.
 
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Shallow Wave said:
Doesnt that create a territorial dispute? I know Ukraine isn't joining nato at all, but still zelensky shoots himself in the leg here.
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Its about setting up a future set of territorial disputes and a justification for any military operations by Ukraine against those areas in Russia. When Ukraine shells Belograd now, its not attacking Russia anymore. Its attacking an occupied area of historical ukraine.

The language used is worse that than though. Zelensky talks about trying to recover Ukrainian identity in those areas. Those are not subtile code-words for ethnic assimilation. Those people in those areas are really Ukrainians and therefore Ukraine has a right to make them proper Ukrainians by whatever means necessary.
 
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Badungus Kabungus said:
For your daily dose of derangement, here is how NATOids see the world. I personally find the idea of NATO still existing in 2044 to be extremely optimistic.
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>2044
>Ukraine is still not a NATO state
Lol. Lmao even.
 
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Fried-Rice12 said:
The NK munitions that Russia is using is likely the same stuff supplied to NK by the Soviet Union back when it was still around. Russia is simply going to their storage unit to pick up some stuff they deposited some 40-50 years ago.

And the part about rounds exploding in guns is pure projection. I recall seeing a short clip of a ukrop M777 exploding from trying to fire a round some time earlier in the war, Fall 2022 I think. I'll see if I can find the clip.
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Most of NK's artillery is soviet spec and they have tons of it. They licensed the D-20 and 152mm design from the USSR back in the day and stuck with it. In the past they sent 1 million shells in an arms deal to Russia. This is WWI level technology. The norks have no problem making in great numbers.

And I don't think its some great put down to say Russia brought shells from NK and China while it was ramping up production in 2022. Especially since NATO has been and still is running around trying to beg and buy back handfuls of 155mm shells all along. And they have been spinnig their wheels trying to ramp up projuction and still failing to come close to what Russia has already achieved. Now with western funding cuts I don't see things ever getting better on the atrillary front for Ukraine. The Russians can continute to do the old soviet thing of surrounding a city and pounding it to dust with artillary from a safe distance rather then sending men in to a meat grinder. While the hohols do nothing but show up and play catch.
 
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Seanut Arbuckle said:
So apparently according to pro-russian sources Russia making some real breakthroughs in Avdeyevka.
Apparently Ukrainians are in retreat from some areas and some main fortresses are now behind russian lines.
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Now watch as twitter analysts go “ACKSHUALLY Avdeevka was always strategically irrelevant” once it’s fully taken over.
 
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Jump said:
And I don't think its some great put down to say Russia brought shells from NK and China while it was ramping up production in 2022. Especially since NATO has been and still is running around trying to beg and buy back handfuls of 155mm shells all along. And they have been spinnig their wheels trying to ramp up projuction and still failing to come close to what Russia has already achieved. Now with western funding cuts I don't see things ever getting better on the atrillary front for Ukraine. The Russians can continute to do the old soviet thing of surrounding a city and pounding it to dust with artillary from a safe distance rather then sending men in to a meat grinder. While the hohols do nothing but show up and play catch
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I would presume that buying shells from NK and China is also to hold a monopoly on their stock so that NATO can't buy their ammo, either legitimately or covertly.
 
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Male Idiot said:
I agree mostly, but the US already did have remote control drone planes.

Imagine if you could do something like having the robots be controlled from far too. While jamming would be more important, it would help China and the US with their population problems.
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Slur Generator said:
Most niggers are too dumb to make effective soldiers and you think we can genetically modify a chimp to do it? like in Stalin's humanzee's experiment

fully automated weapons are coming, humanoids robots are more than likely a giant waste of resources. So i don't think we will see them in our lifetime, at least not for warfare.
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Male Idiot said:
I recall like more than a decade ago I watched something and maybe it was the US, and they put a robotic machinr gun on a robot jeep.

However it shot at anything that moved. Sergeant Mutt? Sergei the ork? A damn squirrel? Robotruck didn't give a shit, if it moved it got lead.

For humanoids I said 50 or 100 years. We'll propably see that robodog do stuff in the next 20 years, maybe as a watchdog, heh, while the soldiers sleep.
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I see I must explain myself. Making a biologically automated soldier is not easy by any stretch of the imagination. That being said Machine vision is not a solvable problem given reasonable leaps in technology. There is this thought that computers or machines are better than people and faster. This is true for extraordinarily simple problems. But for something as simple identifying friend or foe requires extremely complex and large amounts of information. Humans and living organisms are actually extremely good at that type of problem. Biological systems are massively complex. We still cannot get anything nearly as efficient in terms of chemical reactions or protein folding that life can do. Current technology or some derivative of it would be fine if you could be correct 95% of the time but 95% is not near good enough.

That being said some kind of drone soldier with a human controller is perfectly reasonable.
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
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>send your soldiers under the guise of "mercs" to the Ukraine
>they are kill
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What the fuck is wrong with the French fags? Death is a known hazard for soldiers especially in the Ukraine, but the French are "furious"? lmao
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Were they in that building that recently got taken out by a Kaliber? Foreign mercs have really bad luck in Ukraine.

Found it: https://t.me/remylind21/12537

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Aftermath of a missile attack in Myrnohrad. 16 soldiers were killed, another 20 remain under the rubble.

Ballistic worked.
 
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