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@Monostar Leatherknuckles If you submit 10 posts again one after the other I am banning you and deleting your shit thread. Figure out the +Quote feature.
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Besides you only have yourself to blame for setting it up for approval.

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Um yes I cannot possibly make it any clearer that this is a site for discussing people on the internet who make a fool of themselves. Here is the category of lolcows who were discovered by posting here. Here is an excellent example.
If you want to wind up with a thread you could just keep posting.
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Then WHY IS THERE AN ART & LITERATURE SECTION IN THIS SITE!?
 
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Monostar Leatherknuckles said:
Mainly it wasn’t between multiple but I wanted to test which artist I want really doing Red Mist and have them work with me and I’d receive 30% of the revenue and they receive 70% for the art. But I’d make the most on whatever we made with sales either through books, merchandise, other ventures. So in the end it wouldn’t have been with multiple artists it would be me, the artist, and maybe if possible an assistant to help when the artist is unable for a task at the moment.
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Just draw it yourself. One made One Punch Man and the art it the original webcomic had its charm but was not great. Your little plan to pay your employees through hopes and wishes is not only typical of nontalents but exploitive. Good work cost money! If you don't pay, you're fucking gay!

Edit: Future readers, this is the mement when I became MATI. You'll see. 💢
 
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Monostar Leatherknuckles said:
Mainly it wasn’t between multiple but I wanted to test which artist I want really doing Red Mist and have them work with me and I’d receive 30% of the revenue and they receive 70% for the art. But I’d make the most on whatever we made with sales either through books, merchandise, other ventures. So in the end it wouldn’t have been with multiple artists it would be me, the artist, and maybe if possible an assistant to help when the artist is unable for a task at the moment.

And everyone keeps trying to bring me down by calling me the N word hard R or calling me a retard like I’m supposed to be offended by it.
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You probably should have ignored my question.

I did not call you a nigger, so not sure why you're bringing it up. But everyone here is one sometimes, so no you're not supposed to be offended by it. You're kind of retarded though, you have to admit.

On to the business. You basically have nothing and seem to be very confused.

In this FB post (it is your FB, I guess that was a tacit admission here), you kinda say something along these lines, but not quite.

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You clearly misrepresent the collective you are "representing" and at no point offer a tryout for an artist position. % are also the other way around, but that's a detail.

70% on revenue is absolutely insane, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Let's say you do sell your manga for $50 as intended and make a huge success, sell 100 000 copies.

You know have 5M in the bank. Of which you get to keep 1.5M.

Now you need to factor in your cost so we can look at profitability while the artists laugh their way to the bank.

If we look at the price of the print, Google tells me $60 to $250 per page for high-quality reproduction. And that's not even inluding the print, the warehousing, the transport, the distribution, the advertisement.

Now, maybe you want to self publish? But you will be paying a massive commission to the websites who own the market. And there is no way around them. This will often be over your own 30%. You will still need to advertise.

To be profitable, after all expenses, you need to make at least $15 profit per book sold not to lose money. According to some random site I found on Google "Estimates suggest that the average profit margin for a comic book publisher is around 10%", I doubt you could do 3x better than a publisher at scale.

What about taxes with whatever is left? If anything? You can't just take in 5M and just say you gave 70% to some dude so you will only pay on 30%, it needs proper legal structure. Your company, so you'll be liable for the whole bill.

You could argue I am in bad faith, and you meant profit after taxes or whatever, but even this would not be a satisfactory answer, cause if you're successful, you will need to reprint larger quantities and reinvest more in ads. Even if you were to be successful, taking cash flow away from the business at this stage would kill it. If you don't have a plan, it will never work.

Overall, this is poorly thought-out.
 
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Waifu Days said:
Just draw it yourself. One made One Punch Man and the art it the original webcomic had its charm but was not great. Your little plan to pay your employees through hopes and wishes is not only typical of nontalents but exploitive. Good work cost money! If you don't pay, you're fucking gay!
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Funny enough, One and Kanon_Pic (Creators of Kemo Fujin) have what can be considered butt ass ugly art but they focus on the story.
 
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Cedric_Eff said:
Funny enough, One and Kanon_Pic (Creators of Kemo Fujin) have what can be considered butt ass ugly art but they focus on the story.
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Japan has such a rich culture of amateurs creating and sharing art, writing, and media. The Internet in general is that way and the biggest mistake I see new talent make is trying to compare themselves to professionals of +10 years experience instead of comparing themselves to those professionals when they first started. Everyone starts rough. The two big tricks is putting yourself out there and keep improving your craft despite the naysayers.

You have been super nice to this kid. You are far better than I am.
 
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Waifu Days said:
Japan has such a rich culture of amateurs creating and sharing art, writing, and media. The Internet in general is that way and the biggest mistake I see new talent make is trying to compare themselves to professionals of +10 years experience instead of comparing themselves to those professionals when they first started. Everyone starts rough. The two big tricks is putting yourself out there and keep improving your craft despite the naysayers.

You have been super nice to this kid. You are far better than I am.
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For the last time, I am 19 years old. Stop talking and treating me like I’m a god damn six grader.
 
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Waifu Days said:
Japan has such a rich culture of amateurs creating and sharing art, writing, and media. The Internet in general is that way and the biggest mistake I see new talent make is trying to compare themselves to professionals of +10 years experience instead of comparing themselves to those professionals when they first started. Everyone starts rough. The two big tricks is putting yourself out there and keep improving your craft despite the naysayers.

You have been super nice to this kid. You are far better than I am.
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Well it doesn’t take much for one creator to another to be nice. It’s never too late to set beginners on the right path when it comes to creating their projects.
Monostar Leatherknuckles said:
For the last time, I am 19 years old. Stop talking and treating me like I’m a god damn six grader.
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Well you still have a lot to learn and work on when it comes to this project.
 
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Monostar Leatherknuckles said:
Then WHY IS THERE AN ART & LITERATURE SECTION IN THIS SITE!?
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Because the forum has a community with interests beyond the primary purpose of laughing at eccentrics. But that's still the primary purpose.
I don't know what kind of research or examination of the site you might have done outside of listening to that video you linked in the other thread, but this isn't just some alternative version of 4chan or whatever. This site finds and archives information about strange and funny people for humor. Going and putting your personal details on here will, inevitably, lead to people laughing at you.
 
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Not gonna lie, there’s a way to determine if a person is cut out for manga. Just like how Marvel used to have a comics try out book, I think someone needs to create an Manga try out challenge where one has to write an script in three days and spend one week illustrating all of it.
 
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