[Resolved] Domain Registrar & Epik's Seizure

[DavidS877]

The owner is Josh. US law forced them to let him keep his stuff.

I wonder if it wasn't US law, but ICANN or the registry(Verisign) who told EPIK to knock that shit off and give him his domain. And of course a retard who can't be trusted with Twitter wouldn't understand the distinction.

 

[Battlefield42]

Imagine thinking kiwifarms is exclusively right wing.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Money Orders 101 with Myrtle the Turtle:
A money order is basically a check without a bank account. Its a prepaid note thats blank and you make it out to whomever you want.

Step 1: Find a place that sells money orders.
Step 2: Go up to the customer service desk, checkout or self service terminal and ask for a money order. The clerk will ask for an amount (lets say $100) and you pay either with cash or a debit card plus the fee which is usually 1-2 bucks, sometimes $5 depending on where you go.
Step 3. They will print a your money order for you and give you a receipt.
Step 4. You fill out the money order like you would a check and sign it. Then send it off to whomever you want to.

Is this suspicious?* No. Tons of people without a bank account use it to pay bills and rent. I have used them many times and no one has ever batted an eye.
Is there a limit?* Yes. There is usually a limit of $1000 per order. Don't attempt to buy more than $1000 at one location at one time. I suggest spreading it out over time and places; so like 500, 500 at once place, 250, 300 at a different place, 1000 at another different place over the course of days.

Spoiler: *Important Edit*

Someone has pointed out if you are spending huge amounts on your debit card for money orders, your bank will get sus. This is because they are concerned with money laundering not you donating anonymously to a legal fund. The absolute red line is $10,000 for cash and debit transaction per day however I have seen accounts get flagged for less. I would advise only buying up to $5000 per debit card to avoid having issues with your bank and spread the purchases out. Cash has no limit since you are capped at $1000/order anyway, just don't get them all at one place at one time. If you are sending a huge amount of money, best to use a cashiers check or wire transfer, plus idk how the donation site will look. Visa gift cards could be an option for all I know. If you absolutely need to be anonymous using money orders to make a large donation for a legal defense, pm me.

Places that sell money orders: (Not an all inclusive list)
- Walmart, Publix, Kroger, CVS, 7-Elevens, Food Lion, Walgreens, etc, Chase Bank, select small credit unions and SOME banks (check with them first)
- All of them are issued via MoneyGram, Western Union, US Postal Service or by banks.
- Bank of America, Wells Fargo and most large banks do not sell money orders, or if they do, they have your personal information like name and address on them. They issue cashiers checks only. Chase Bank is the only large bank that sells ones that have no identifiable information on them however they are $5.00/ order which is more than most of the options on this list. Null sent one from Chase as part of his care package to Chris.
- I would advise you avoid the self service terminals at 7-Eleven as some have been known to eat the cash without issuing the order causing headaches. I much prefer to have a human count my cash and issue it.
- For any zoomers or anyone that has never handled a money order or check; DO NOT SIGN THE BACK, thats for the receiving party to sign, you will ONLY SIGN THE FRONT.
- To my knowledge, USPS & Chase money orders do not require the buyers signature, you can just print the name. I have no idea why.

Spoiler: Chase Bank Money Order

Spoiler: MoneyGram

Spoiler: Western Union

Spoiler: US Postal Service

 

[Faggitory]

Look at what this clown said we are a right-wing website.

https://twitter.com/NeverSu64836697/status/1749435515546292441

I'm forced to assume no one really thinks Kiwi Farms has child porn on it. Otherwise, wouldn't someone be trying to do something about it? They use "child porn" as some kind of inflammatory "dunk", but surely they know this is breaking the law.

 

[Pope Urban]

750 users need to donate $100 for this to reach the minimum. I can do at least $200, probably more. That's 748 users to go, and almost 1000 Kiwis have pledged already. It's doable.

 

[Super Guido]

I'm forced to assume no one really thinks Kiwi Farms has child porn on it. Otherwise, wouldn't someone be trying to do something about it? They use "child porn" as some kind of inflammatory "dunk", but surely they know this is breaking the law.

They know, but they don't care because they seriously think they're "on the right side of history" or some happy horse shit.

 

[Named User]

Will a $15 Chick-fil-A gift card help?

 

[pyrogon]

Look at what this clown said we are a right-wing website.

https://twitter.com/NeverSu64836697/status/1749435515546292441

The only thing that was caught was Epik admitting to flat out lying. This is cope.

 

[DavidS877]

Is there a limit? Yes. There is usually a limit of $1000 per order. Anything more and they may deny you or require an ID. If you need to send more, I usually break the amounts up and or go to different locations.

If you are rich enough to want to send $10,000 or more then DO NOT DO THIS. It's considered "structuring" and will likely get you a visit from some very unpleasant folks.
Banks, etc, are all required to report any transactions of $10,000 or over, so if they think you're trying to avoid that then they assume you're doing it for a nefarious purpose and not sponsoring a fruit based lawsuit.

 

[Vapid_Idiot]

DO IT

 

[Molag Bal]

I don't know man, I can see why you're tempted to go that route.

• Going to court alone means someone at the company will have to ask "What do you mean we have to spend thousands of dollars in lawyer's fees to respond to a lawsuit because you couldn't resist posting retarded shit on twitter?"
• If the lawsuit is successful, it has a chilling effect on networking companies' eagerness to run interference against their own or other companies' customers.

But I see a low chance of this bearing fruit.

• For one, just proving that damages occurred to kiwifarms at all isn't enough, you'd have to prove that new damages occurred after they posted this and specifically BECAUSE they posted it. Just some pundit or news site republishing the lies isn't enough, you'd need something like another bottleneck cutting off the site and specifically citing the claims Epik made as a reason for it.
• There's a high chance of the exact same shit happening as with the Russel Greer case in the appeals court. Sitting judges simply putting their feet on the table and going "Yeah Kiwifarms is obviously in the right here, but we don't like them so we're going to frankenstein a bunch of unrelated laws and statutes together to justify ruling the other way anyway." Remember that in that case, even the en banc didn't go your way.

 

[CervixHammer]

One of the hosts of the QAnonAnonymous podcast retweeted Monacelli:

 

[Islamic Taylor Swift]

Crazy to see how this company went from a place I’d talk glowingly about a year ago despite their catastrophic service and security issues now has me checking their official website to make sure there isn’t some Mandela effect shit going on with the Twitter handle I was sure was theirs.

 

[Null]

proving that damages

Calling someone a pedophile, criminal, or child sex crime criminal is defamation per se. I do not have to prove damages.

 

[Haramburger]

"Haramburger for $5 says '75,000 / 1,000 = $75 per person. That's the price of two overpriced internet hoodies, or fifteen $5 superchats.' VERY COOL chyat."

 

[Black Yoshi]

Epik LLC has made two claims on X :
1) They were forced to put a clientHold on kiwifarms.net by Law Enforcement, which we evaded by moving the domain out of the country.
2) That the Kiwi Farms "hosts child porn".

Did I predict this?

Make the info registered users only. "Consent accident" will have a field day over the possibility of cooking up BS CP hosting accusations.

 

[Null]

Did I predict this?

No. Nothing in that post is illegal and happened after Epik dropped us.

 

[Gauf]

I will donate. Maybe someone can start a spreadsheet to track potential fundraising if Kiwis are willing to post what they’re willing to commit.

 

[Justanotherguy]

Epik LLC has made two claims on X :
1) They were forced to put a clientHold on kiwifarms.net by Law Enforcement, which we evaded by moving the domain out of the country.
2) That the Kiwi Farms "hosts child porn".

These are both false, and these are both instances of actionable per se defamation. The damage of these claims is inherent in the claim and they are already being parroted by adversaries for the purposes of trying to further erode our ability to find stability and sure footing on the Internet.

Epik is a Wyoming LLC, X is a California LLC, and Kiwi Farms is a West Virginia LLC. To pursue this, I would have to find a lawyer in one of these jurisdictions. I don't know any.

Taking a case to trial is at least $75,000. However, they would be able to pay because they are a big company, and this would be an amazing step for being able to show providers: Yes, we are legal, and yes, we are taking steps to remedy actionable defamation to the contrary.

I've put up a poll. I am already dealing with litigation and saving money for another case. Would the community itself actually want to finance litigation?


Edit: I will find a way to get fiat working so you don't need crypto, but special crypto wallets can also be set up.

Hell mother fucking yes.

 

[Exister]

I'll give 200 minimum