Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[TheSoutherStar]

someone like her will need to be taken care of for the rest of her life. That is money that should be going to Goldbelly pies and gambling at Atlantic City.

that's really the most heartbreaking part of it. there are a lot of parents with ASD children who are *much* wealthier than ethan who are kept awake at night wondering what will happen or who will take care of their kids when they die. Ethan should've started decoupling himself from his production line years ago so that delays are minimized and more importantly, his family can continue running his business when he dies; Just like what billy tucci and eric july are doing.

I thought he had this plan in mind when he rented a warehouse, bought a van and hired morges, ritter, matt martin and canaan(before he bailed) but somehow everything still bottlenecked to him wtf lmao

 

[Strix454]

I think if Ethan actually cared at all for his daughter, he would want to harm Riley on sight and have nothing whatsoever to do with him and Mint. Any normal father of that sort of daughter would look at Dax, Riley and Mint and be in a total rage seeing how that might just as well be their daughter. Liberated from the parents and pimped out on onlyfans by a greasy subhuman loser.

 

[tacoindaface]

It's nuts. EVS seems to have forgotten that much of the money he was given early on wasn't for a comic book but because of his "They're trying to cancel me!" narrative. Backing CG projects was a great way to own those ebil SJW's! Now he's the one trying to cancel Eric July which is only increasing his sales for the same reason.

Stupid, stupid, lazy fat man.

It makes a stupid sort of sense if you change your perspective.

In EVS's mind, he's not a "victim" so he didn't get backers for getting canceled by SJWs, he got backers for fighting back.

So, if he gets money for fighting, then all he has to do is keep fighting to get more money. SJWs aren't really making the news the way they used to. The tide on that has shifted, so he needs to find other enemies to "fight back" against.

Enter Yellowflash and Eric July.

So, he'll grift of "fighting back" against them until that goes cold, then he'll find somebody else to fight against.

Eventually he'll figure out that no man, no matter how fat, is an island, and he can't keep fighting everybody around him. By then though, it'll likely be too late.

 

[Fleetwood]

ethan is an old man and he has a very young level 3 ASD daughter. sperging on the internet, be morbidly unhealthy and especially, wasting his family's money on his personal excesses are things he shouldn't be doing. speech and behavioral therapy costs a lot of money and these campaign numbers won't cut it.

Born	Ethan Daniel Van Sciver September 3, 1974 (age 49) Utah, U.S.

He's not even 50 yet but doesn't look a day over 75
He easily looks the same age group as the elder cg kings: (current age)
Billy Tucci Aug 13, 1966 (57)
Aaron Lopresti January 7, 1964 (60)
Graham Nolan March 12, 1962 (61)
Dale Keown July 23, 1962 (61)
Art Thibert Oct 7, 1961 (62)
Mike Baron July 1, 1949 (74)
Chuck Dixon April 14, 1954 (69)


Random screenshot from the latest livestream- I would guess 60s if I didn't know better

I think if Ethan actually cared at all for his daughter, he would want to harm Riley on sight and have nothing whatsoever to do with him and Mint. Any normal father of that sort of daughter would look at Dax, Riley and Mint and be in a total rage seeing how that might just as well be their daughter. Liberated from the parents and pimped out on onlyfans by a greasy subhuman loser.

He's already co-signed so many hoes Mandy Summers, Sheila Aliens, Martina Markota, Whitten, & the list goes on. I could add Anna to be mean but the others did camwhoring, porn, stripping, etc. As for the autism thing and Mint, I find it especially uncomfortable the few times I watched Riley yell at her on livestreams. It's a really sus Ike & Tina type thing but with movie reviews and porn. So many women are hoes online already, none of them need an extra push from these gross smarmy coomers.

 

[GPRIMACADO]

For all the talk about Eric July's ramp-up, or even EVS's, somehow Billy seems to be doing it right.

I've been supporting Tucci since he launched on IGG. The only downside is that Debbie is a stickler when it comes to international. Had a person who's Shi book came bent in customs and when requested a fresh copy was ignored. Granted not right customer wise, business wise I do get it. $35 plus book with nearly same shipping price can be taxing and put you in red if you keep sending out replacement internationals.

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"Meanwhile in Ethan Van Schemer's Castle of Coom..."

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"To me, photographs are just information to work with. I'm still doing the drawing work."
WOW Ethan after we found video evidence where you said just TRACE Washington DC...


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It just keeps getting worse and worse... Day 12. Man oh man.

 

[That Other Dude's Persona]

Yeah, I don't think EVS is capable of complex emotions and he can barely pretend. He has used his kid as a shield on multiple occasions.
I can't diagnose him, but the guy's not normal (beyond the usual artistic autism).

I was going to autisticly trawl Daxipad's streaming activities, chronicle them in a document and do the math on his consistency to answer KB's question.

Maddox smells his own farts a lot, but his recent video on his fallout with Dax was an interesting watch.

@motts337 welcome to the farms, where currently Dick Masterson, Vito Gesualdi and Nick Rekieta are the most hated men on the internet and Ethan Van Sciver is trying his best to be added to this list. All are beefing with or fixated on Eric July so some people are seeing criticism of Eric as support for the others. It sucks because while i'm not a fan of any of the former, I too think Eric is full of shit and his comics suck.

I did try giving the July thread a shot when it was happening, man. It was shit.

Had a person who's Shi book came bent in customs and when requested a fresh copy was ignored.

If he was completely ignored, it's likely his messages were missed. She's juggling communication from 3 different sites. FWIW, I've had missed messages with her, but she's been very helpful with international and damages.

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Oh no, Graham Nolan chimed in. Place your bets on the time until the inevitable "backstabbing".

 

[The Coon]

Born	Ethan Daniel Van Sciver September 3, 1974 (age 49) Utah, U.S.

He's not even 50 yet but doesn't look a day over 75
He easily looks the same age group as the elder cg kings: (current age)
Billy Tucci Aug 13, 1966 (57)
Aaron Lopresti January 7, 1964 (60)
Graham Nolan March 12, 1962 (61)
Art Thibert Oct 7, 1961 (62)
Mike Baron July 1, 1949 (74)
Chuck Dixon April 14, 1954 (69)

Random screenshot from the latest livestream- I would guess 60s if I didn't know better

Holy shit, I didn't realize these guys were that much older than Frog, especially Baron. I will say when you hear Baron talk, you can tell he is a bit older than he looks, but I always chalked that up to him mentioning before on stream about doing cocaine (not sure if it was a one time thing, but the way he was talking made it sound like he was pretty experienced). The only 2 on here that I would say look older than Frog are Dixon and Lopresti, but only because I think they have the boomer grampa look going for them.

 

[Fleetwood]

I did try giving the July thread a shot when it was happening, man. It was shit.

I pointed out the OP didn't even have FUCK THEM HOE ASS ROADS! Or any mention of his shit metalcore music or examples of cringe rapping. Total garbage. If he is a cow he always was, not starting when Vito debated him. If OP had documented other feuds he's had like Jody's Corner or Angry Joe and established a pattern of behavior it might be more convincing. Eric July is kind of like our own Liam Gray in that he reacts to fucking everything and over shares in his streams (although in vague evasive negroid form).

Maddox smells his own farts a lot, but his recent video on his fallout with Dax was an interesting watch.

Practically every party in these fights is detestable.

Holy shit, I didn't realize these guys were that much older than Frog, especially Baron. I will say when you hear Baron talk, you can tell he is a bit older than he looks, but I always chalked that up to him mentioning before on stream about doing cocaine (not sure if it was a one time thing, but the way he was talking made it sound like he was pretty experienced). The only 2 on here that I would say look older than Frog are Dixon and Lopresti, but only because I think they have the boomer grampa look going for them.

Baron is in better shape physically than all of them too. He's really a wealth of experience. If I were Rippa I would have Baron script years of books in advance while I had him instead of spending millions on warehouse nonsense.

 

[Quarterback Rex Grossman]

My theory for the Vito association is Mint Salad is tight with Toby (Hark the Herald Angels) who is affiliated with Screenwave, the guys who produce the AVGN's videos. That's probably why EVS wants a Cyberfrog fan game so he can get onboard with James Rolfe, fellow baldy.

 

[Strix454]

I dont think EVS or Graham Nolan have any idea how boomer they sound in rejecting all digital tools and assets from comic work. Its the end work that matters. There is no glory in doing art in an antique way that requires maximum effort on things that usually don't matter to the story. Yeah. You can spend several days trying to do a drawing of a car or a helicopter in a background without modeling, without references and strictly I guess based on looking out the window. But what does all that time spent on a background detail in a story contribute to the work as a whole? When you free up time from background detail, you can spend more time getting things like composition or key character art better. Or you can create more art by being more productive.

Comic art in the old days was drawn on bristol board and then inked over because the comics were being printed on four-color letterpress printing equipment mostly used to print newspapers. The world has long ago moved on.

We live in a world of full color printing and digital tools today. Every great artist takes advantage of the technology available to them. They had things like zipatone and lightboxes. They would do polaroid photographs for anatomy references. They maintained massive personal libraries of art reference material to be used in different ways.

There is no difference between using a file cabinet of illustrations and photos for reference then and using 3D assets for reference now. They both serve the same purpose. All that changes is that the technology becomes better and more efficient allowing the artist to do more.

There is also the hypocrisy of Nolan and EVS being such reactionaries on drawing while having no problem hiring colorists who use a full suite of modern digital tools on their art.

Comicsgate had spawned alot of dumb ideas, but EVS's ideas that comic art today has be done with the same technology it was done with 50 years ago is one of the worst.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I dont think EVS or Graham Nolan have any idea how boomer they sound in rejecting all digital tools and assets from comic work. Its the end work that matters. There is no glory in doing art in an antique way that requires maximum effort on things that usually don't matter to the story. Yeah. You can spend several days trying to do a drawing of a car or a helicopter in a background without modeling, without references and strictly I guess based on looking out the window. But what does all that time spent on a background detail in a story contribute to the work as a whole? When you free up time from background detail, you can spend more time getting things like composition or key character art better. Or you can create more art by being more productive.

Comic art in the old days was drawn on bristol board and then inked over because the comics were being printed on four-color letterpress printing equipment mostly used to print newspapers. The world has long ago moved on.

We live in a world of full color printing and digital tools today. Every great artist takes advantage of the technology available to them. They had things like zipatone and lightboxes. They would do polaroid photographs for anatomy references. They maintained massive personal libraries of art reference material to be used in different ways.

There is no difference between using a file cabinet of illustrations and photos for reference then and using 3D assets for reference now. They both serve the same purpose. All that changes is that the technology becomes better and more efficient allowing the artist to do more.

There is also the hypocrisy of Nolan and EVS being such reactionaries on drawing while having no problem hiring colorists who use a full suite of modern digital tools on their art.

Comicsgate had spawned alot of dumb ideas, but EVS's ideas that comic art today has be done with the same technology it was done with 50 years ago is one of the worst.

The first thing EVS does after finishing drawing a page is scan it into his very expensive scanner that he used to love showing off and then emailing it to Kyle Ritter who uses all digital tools for coloring and post. Then off for digital lettering, layout and print.

Such a purist that Ethan Van Sciver!

 

[GPRIMACADO]

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Well there it is ladies and gentelmen, EVS letting everyone truly know he wants to be a FAILTuber.


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Yeah that's swell, weaponize your audience against KAM. lmao EVS

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

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Yeah that's swell, weaponize your audience against KAM. lmao EVS

Hours after EVS' call to action and only a handful more votes later... EVS' stunt has backfired.

https://twitter.com/KAMbot1138/status/1750221250218099143

Not that long ago at least 1000 people would've immediately dog-piled that poll for him.

 

[That Other Dude's Persona]

Yeah that's swell, weaponize your audience against KAM. lmao EVS

Hm, lots of small creators and the founder of FundMyComic dismissing EVS's personal army request in those screenshots...

 

[Pippa's Greasy KB]

or maybe

lmao i was scrolling up and couldn't tell it WASN'T EVS

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

lmao i was scrolling up and couldn't tell it WASN'T EVS

Ethan Ralph carries a nicer purse. That's how I tell them apart.

And Ralph lost weight.

 

[Retink Retunk]

lmao i was scrolling up and couldn't tell it WASN'T EVS

EVS is missing the one fucked up eye that Lowtax and Ralph have, but otherwise they're the same blob.

 

[zyclonPD]

EVS is missing the one fucked up eye that Lowtax and Ralph have, but otherwise they're the same blob.

I think EVS can be his own individual lolcow without having to grasp at comparisons. Trying to ham fist a lowtax or Ralph comparison just feels like forcing a round peg in a pie shaped hole. Its been like 3-4 pages of a lame attempt to tie these two disparate threads together and it just feels forced.

 

[Arkenas Einbrecht]

I dont think EVS or Graham Nolan have any idea how boomer they sound in rejecting all digital tools and assets from comic work. Its the end work that matters. There is no glory in doing art in an antique way that requires maximum effort on things that usually don't matter to the story. Yeah. You can spend several days trying to do a drawing of a car or a helicopter in a background without modeling, without references and strictly I guess based on looking out the window. But what does all that time spent on a background detail in a story contribute to the work as a whole? When you free up time from background detail, you can spend more time getting things like composition or key character art better. Or you can create more art by being more productive.

Comic art in the old days was drawn on bristol board and then inked over because the comics were being printed on four-color letterpress printing equipment mostly used to print newspapers. The world has long ago moved on.

We live in a world of full color printing and digital tools today. Every great artist takes advantage of the technology available to them. They had things like zipatone and lightboxes. They would do polaroid photographs for anatomy references. They maintained massive personal libraries of art reference material to be used in different ways.

There is no difference between using a file cabinet of illustrations and photos for reference then and using 3D assets for reference now. They both serve the same purpose. All that changes is that the technology becomes better and more efficient allowing the artist to do more.

There is also the hypocrisy of Nolan and EVS being such reactionaries on drawing while having no problem hiring colorists who use a full suite of modern digital tools on their art.

Comicsgate had spawned alot of dumb ideas, but EVS's ideas that comic art today has be done with the same technology it was done with 50 years ago is one of the worst.

To your point. These are some pieces drawn digitally for me by an artist. I regularly commission him for a personal(non-commercial) project:


He's 100% digital, but can also draw traditionally. As he explained it to me: Its simply a more efficient use of his time to do the work digitally. Corrections are easier, and there are many functions that massively enhance speed(such as mirroring/undo/redo/etc). Then there is being able to save a base image as a template and reproduce it over and over from the base image until you get the design you want. Rather than erasing and smudging the page to a point you have to start over. Much of art creation is reiteration -- speeding up reiteration process is a massive win for artists. I say this as someone who used to draw.

Guys like Ethan simply seem to be too lazy and or stubborn to learn the new tools.

The reticence toward simplification of the process baffles me. The same skills are involved with digital drawing as physical. There is certainly an argument to be made tools like mirroring diminish skill due to not practicing symmetry as often. However that can be fixed by regularly practicing with and without mirroring, and only using said function for the sake of productivity.

 

[Retink Retunk]

I think EVS can be his own individual lolcow without having to grasp at comparisons. Trying to ham fist a lowtax or Ralph comparison just feels like forcing a round peg in a pie shaped hole. Its been like 3-4 pages of a lame attempt to tie these two disparate threads together and it just feels forced.

I just think EVS has the ego issues of Ralph and the pie filled belly of Lowtax.