Null is out of touch with women

[generic sauce]

Null has addressed this on MATI too tho. Yes, normal conservative men are not on Twitter because they have jobs and families to take care of. They are letting the biggest retards run their movement. Name one single outspoken conservative man with a platform that isn't a retarded misogynist. Not even just Fuentes and Tate are like this. Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, etc aren't much better. Conservative men who don't hate women aren't speaking out against this so I have to assume they silently co-sign most of it. Matt Walsh is total normie content and not a fringe figure and he regularly says shit like "teenage marriage is good actually" and "16 is peak fertility".

Yeah only retards watch that shit and they are not "Conservative" but terminally online losers such as you and I.

 

[Lidl Drip]

This is objectively wrong. I thought the complaint was that men were trying to get women out of the workplace.

An entirely unrealistic proposition and they know it. Most men can not afford a SAHM and kids with just one income. Also any woman who is like "Ok cool let's have traditional roles then and you pay for everything?" Is called a golddigging whore who wants to divorce-rape the guy. So no, the reality would be that women would still work and ALSO do all the domestic labor, which btw is the norm for the majority of families nowadays already.

Then explain to me why do they support politicians that call them “breeding people” and let predators into their prisons and shelters? That is better than having a retarded podcaster saying stupid shit, or the true horror of not permitting them to kill their offspring for absolutely no reason?

Most women don't support this. Maybe the zoomer girls on your social studies campus do, but they are not the majority. All normal women are offended by the erasure of women. They would still rather try to "fix the left" than to join the right because again, the right openly hates women. Also a lot more women are feeling politically homeless entirely nowadays because we realize that both the left and right hates us.

Also nobody is talking about "killing offspring for no reason". Republican men want no abortions at all. Even if it's a 11 year old who was raped by her own father or in cases where a baby that is not viable outside of the womb. You're not going to get women on your side by saying "Yeah your life is only worth something until you are born and then you are an incubator for us who shouldn't get to make decisions and also if you ever have pregnancy complications we think you should die".

 

[Bargain Bin Laden]

I knew this was going to turn into an abortion thread.

 

[Ingmar Aspergman]

An entirely unrealistic proposition and they know it. Most men can not afford a SAHM and kids with just one income. Also any woman who is like "Ok cool let's have traditional roles then and you pay for everything?" Is called a golddigging whore who wants to divorce-rape the guy. So no, the reality would be that women would still work and ALSO do all the domestic labor, which btw is the norm for the majority of families nowadays already.

Only if they divorce rape them lol, men want to be providers with a healthy home in return. No one thinks being a SAHM is gold-digging.

Also a lot more women are feeling politically homeless entirely nowadays because we realize that both the left and right hates us.

The graph Null posted to Twitter shows a dramatic shift towards the left that began ten years ago. This is not true.

Also nobody is talking about "killing offspring for no reason". Republican men want no abortions at all. Even if it's a 11 year old who was raped by her own father or in cases where a baby that is not viable outside of the womb. You're not going to get women on your side by saying "Yeah your life is only worth something until you are born and then you are an incubator for us who shouldn't get to make decisions and also if you ever have pregnancy complications we think you should die".

The meme is that women should have that right regardless of reason and aren’t even obligated to provide a reason, and most abortions are like this and you have to bring up fringe cases like that to justify the millions of abortions that happen in a year. It’s obviously being used as a form of birth control and it is being normalized as such by continuously dehumanizing the unborn.

 

[Lidl Drip]

The graph Null posted to Twitter shows a dramatic shift towards the left that began ten years ago. This is not true.

If I remember correctly it's a graph about young women only and it doesn't show the amount of women who don't identify with liberals OR conservatives. If conservative men want the young woman vote maybe you should try offering anything at all appealing to young women. Otherwise don't complain that they don't want to vote for your party. I know many young liberal women who are disgusted by the pro troon movement and turned off from voting left because of it, but they would never ever vote right instead.

The meme is that women should have that right regardless of reason and aren’t even obligated to provide a reason, and most abortions are like this and you have to bring up fringe cases like that to justify the millions of abortions that happen in a year. It’s obviously being used as a form of birth control and it is being normalized as such by continuously dehumanizing the unborn.

If you wanna debate abortion there is a lovely Android Raptor thread in Mass Debates already. I told you why women don't find the republican position on abortion attractive and I don't desire to debate it further because I really don't care all that much.

 

[Ingmar Aspergman]

If conservative men want the young woman vote maybe you should try offering anything at all appealing to young women.

How would that happen without completely abandoning everything they stand for? They hate all of their policies regardless of their attitudes towards women.

 

[Lidl Drip]

How would that happen without completely abandoning everything they stand for? They hate all of their policies regardless of their attitudes towards women.

I already explained how conservatives could make their party more attractive to women in a previous post. They have no interest in actually doing this tho so they are going to keep losing and crying about it.

 

[Ingmar Aspergman]

I already explained how conservatives could make their party more attractive to women in a previous post. They have no interest in actually doing this tho so they are going to keep losing and crying about it.

I do not see this generation of women voting for limited immigration, gun control, and abortion anytime soon and I don’t think prancing around with a stick up the ass is going to convince them.

 

[Spud]

I do not see this generation of women voting for limited immigration, gun control, and abortion anytime soon and I don’t think prancing around with a stick up the ass is going to convince them.

Worked for Biden.

 

[Shamefur Dispray]

Baaaahhhh women.
Baaaaahhhhhhhh men.
Seriously, kill yourselves.

 

[ITK]

The more time passes, the more I find myself agreeing with Null. I affirm the fundamental innocence of the Aryan woman. She is too good for this world, too naive, which makes her vulnerable to the pernicious influence of the Jew, but deep down she wants nothing more than to be wed to a righteous husband and breed sons for the Race.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Why did this topic compel you to check my post history?

You're here from 2021 and you don't know that if you shit on one of the sacred cows they'll comb through everything you posted and did?
You are correct about Jersh but your incel sympathies/state completely disqualifies you from criticism and just make things worse as the incel group is so incredibly easy to mock and dunk on, even by fat, obesoid TERFlings.
Fix that shit first

I affirm the fundamental innocence of the Aryan woman

Yeah that's why they always fuck the winners in wars where their country loses. With some exceptions, of course.
The "Aryan woman" (lmao) is welcome to act normal, nobody forces her to be progressive, and if she's so easily influenced by "the Jews", then she's fucking low IQ.

 

[ScamL Likely]

To be as absolutely generous yet neutral as possible I will say he means well and I agree with his overall goals, but find him too impulsive in character to properly enact his political ideals through his rhetoric as someone with any sort of internet following (even if it's as silly a following from a gossip forum meant for entertainment purposes and a related online talk show). He's a funny guy, but not stable enough to be seen as a serious political actor. In a lot of ways this is a stupid conversation to even have, because he's really just a guy who wants to make people laugh so taking him too seriously is wrong on the face of it.

Yeah that's why they always fuck the winners in wars where their country loses. With some exceptions, of course.
The "Aryan woman" (lmao) is welcome to act normal, nobody forces her to be progressive, and if she's so easily influenced by "the Jews", then she's fucking low IQ.

This is definitely a stumbling block for a lot of people because they can't respect and criticize at the same time. I would say the character of the Nordic woman (just to use a clear example as illustrated in folklore with the Volsunga as a basis) is not so much liberal or conservative as it is stern and impartial. In the story of Sigurd women are both powerful and predatory because the role of a Valkyrie as a supernatural figure is to choose the worthy from among the dead, not to coddle the living. I know this is going to be taken the wrong way by someone, somewhere, but with the utmost respect for their influence in the world, women are best thought of as lionesses rather than kind or nurturing figures. What makes a woman dangerous is that she can and will proverbially eat her own young as a matter of pragmatism just to survive in the world.

 

[Ingmar Aspergman]

Fix that shit first

I have but it shouldn’t matter, I’m really fatigued on men and women both acting like sex is analogous to achieving nirvana. Incels are mocked for idealizing sex but it wouldn’t be if you all weren’t equally autistic about it.

 

[Bargain Bin Laden]

Baaaahhhh women.
Baaaaahhhhhhhh men.
Seriously, kill yourselves.

Mmmm… women
MMMMMMMMMMMM…. Men…

 

[sweater_supremacy]

why isnt this in mass debates?

 

[ScamL Likely]

I have but it shouldn’t matter, I’m really fatigued on men and women both acting like sex is analogous to achieving nirvana. Incels are mocked for idealizing sex but it wouldn’t be if you all weren’t equally autistic about it.

You're right, but this is a natural consequence of Industrial Society and marketing because everyone is atmoized into a socioeconomic factor, to bastardize a jewshism for my own purposes. Women innately value pragmatism because they're insecure about how emotional they are as opposed to men who trend towards idealism because there is no reward without risk in the natural world. This isn't an easy pill to swallow for anyone because it's completely contradictory to everything society constantly tells you is common sense, but these primitive animal qualities of humans in the postmodern context of social Darwinism make men easy prey within a social order that values money and status above all else. The predatory man in the civilized West is contrarily the effeminate man because conniving weakness can be leveraged as a hidden strength as opposed to straightforward charisma which is more easily subverted and corrupted by those who it threatens.

tl;dr: evolutionary adaptation to an unnatural environment incentivizes base animal survival strategies everyone hates because games are never really fair when someone who understands their rules plays against someone who doesn't

 

[FuckedOffToff]

why isnt this in mass debates?

Some wankers are exhibitionists, I guess

 

[sweater_supremacy]

Some wankers are exhibitionists, I guess

yucky

 

[Ingmar Aspergman]

To be as absolutely generous yet neutral as possible I will say he means well and I agree with his overall goals, but find him too impulsive in character to properly enact his political ideals through his rhetoric as someone with any sort of internet following

I would too, but you can’t mend gender relations by only calling out one side’s bullshit. Porn is a good example: men hate the women who produce pornography despite consuming it and women hate the men consuming pornography despite producing it (disregarding trafficking and non-consensual). He seems to act like all women in porn were abducted or coerced into it, but especially with OF there definitely is less of a stigma and greater ease of access into producing that material. I will say way more men consume it than women produce it, but still it is increasingly common with younger women they’re apologetic towards it. I thought the big schism in feminism would be this but it turned out to be trans shit.