Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Fatniggo1488]

I think the KIA rate is quite high and it is hard to know. Bakhumut specifically makes me think they have been losing men at a greater rate than during 2022. Soledar alone I think had like 10k men in it before it fell. Some of them surrendered, maybe some of them made it through enemy lines but a lot of them died.

I'd really like to know how many EPWs Russia is taking now. I'd imagine the rate is pretty damn high.

 

[MrJokerRager]

The ICJ has ruled against Israel today.

But any action against Israel will be vetoed by Uncle Sam.

Thanks Hamas for showing that Uncle Sam has morals lower than a shitbull when it used the same ICJ and ICC against Russia for committing hoholicide.

 

[Cuckoman]

LNG exports to EU ain't looking so good anymore

Oh no. Energy will become even more expensive for eurofags.

 

[geckogoy]

On the upside the euros can no longer say we are milking them.

 

[The best and greatest]

This theory is schizo enough that I believe it.

I have a hard time buying it for the simple fact that Russia could have instead just called it off and saved themselves a plane and flight crew both of which are valuable finite resources.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

LNG exports to EU ain't looking so good anymore
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lol eurofags btfo by Americans and Russians.

 

[Midwit]

Energy will become even more expensive for eurofags.

The more I think about it the more I see the need for Bongistan to reopen the coal pits. It's good coal, the best coal, far better coal than Germany could dig.

 

[Mav52ri]

The more I think about it the more I see the need for Bongistan to reopen the coal pits. It's good coal, the best coal, far better coal than Germany could dig.

Rebuild all the coal-fired power stations while they're at it too, fuck whatever's been built on the sites since their demolition.

 

[Napoleon III]

The more I think about it the more I see the need for Bongistan to reopen the coal pits. It's good coal, the best coal, far better coal than Germany could dig.

The UK closed the Coal mines because of the Unions not because they weren't economically viable. It is actually really good quality coal amongst the best in the world.

Rebuild all the coal-fired power stations while they're at it too, fuck whatever's been built on the sites since their demolition.

The other option is to just buy Russian Gas again. It will take some time but Europe will eventually come around to not being retarded.

Hmmm that's interesting. One of the holes in my own theory was the French using Patriots. It would make more sense for a French crew using their own A/D and not letting the Ukrainians anywhere near the trigger.

The UN Security Council meeting to discuss the shoot-down is at 3pm EST today. A representative from Ukraine will attend.

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RWA's theory on this was that the Ukrainians used a Patriot Missile and they brought it up close to the contact line. They would have known it was coming and they thought it was valuable enough to kill 65 POWS to destroy the IL-76 and the military personal aboard. Apparently the Ukrainians have done this before with regular military aircraft as if they move the Patriot really close anti-missile systems have a hard time detecting and they can shoot and move away really quickly.

This is from their stream. I feel like i'm ripping off their content a bit so here is a link to the timestamp of their stream where they talk about the plane. https://www.youtube.com/live/8OYYTnWAP50?si=0EqS-00gFgOKz5OF&t=2180

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

WA's theory on this was that the Ukrainians used a Patriot Missile and they brought it up close to the contact line. They would have known it was coming and they thought it was valuable enough to kill 65 POWS to destroy the IL-76 and the military personal aboard.

I guess I'm willing to give Ukraine the benefit of the doubt that it was an accident caused by foreigners or an event that was out of their control instead of them intentionally executed their own POW's.

 

[Napoleon III]

I guess I'm willing to give Ukraine the benefit of the doubt that it was an accident caused by foreigners or an event that was out of their control instead of them intentionally executed their own POW's.

Ukraine hasn't exactly done a lot to deserve that benefit of the doubt though.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Ukraine hasn't exactly done a lot to deserve that benefit of the doubt though.

Their existence requires the support of Western audiences which has been hemorrhaging ever since they trotted out the troon as their official english speaking rep. When the plane was shot down Ukrainian media were immediately celebrating the triumph until word came there might've been (were) POW's on it then the story instantly changed. If they knew beforehand why change the story so quick and go to these lengths concocting the dumbest excuses imaginable instead of more bragging?

EDITED TO ADD: I think some in the UKR military knew about the exchange but for whatever reason word didn't make it to the AD crew and they're the ones who announced the shoot-down. Then the shit hit the fan and the cover-up began.

All of this is just fun speculation, I won't mind being 100% wrong on this.

 

[Betonhaus]

Their existence requires the support of Western audiences which has been hemorrhaging ever since they trotted out the troon as their official english speaking rep. When the plane was shot down Ukrainian media were immediately celebrating the triumph until word came there might've been (were) POW's on it then the story instantly changed. If they knew beforehand why change the story so quick and go to these lengths concocting the dumbest excuses imaginable instead of more bragging?

Because they take as gospel the notion that they are on the right side of history, and use that undeniable notion to construct their rationale. A Russian plane gets shot down? That obviously means Ukraine's "superior" forces were defending itself from demons. Oh, that plane contained Ukrainian POWs? That means it's impossible for it to have been fired on by Ukrainian forces, it must be some convoluted conspiracy of tricking Ukraine into thinking there were Russian generals on that plane.

 

[The giant penis of doom]

Do it, faggot! Northern Hungary will veto it anyway (realpolitik is a funny game, Fico hates us with a passion). But it would be a great prelude for the collapse of the Union.

LNG exports to EU ain't looking so good anymore

Shouldn't have let the Amerimutts explode your pipeline. Russian gas is good. Europe must accept it sooner or later.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

U.S. war plans for Ukraine don’t foresee retaking lost territory (Archive)
Its pure cope & word-salad from the WH about Ukraine’s future outlook. The strategy now rhymes with Afghanistan in an eerie way that makes me MATI.

The idea now is to position Ukraine to hold its position on the battlefield for now, but “put them on a different trajectory to be much stronger by the end of 2024 … and get them on a more sustainable path,” said the senior official, one of several who described the internal policymaking on the condition of anonymity.

'Senior official' could be a WH janny for all I know but I will play along. What trajectory? What does ‘sustainable path’ even mean here? A path to where? How are we defining “strength”? This statement might make sense if some hard lines were drawn on a map for them to recoup and rebuild but Zelensky wants Russia to give up all occupied territory and take Putin to court. The chances of that happening are near zero. Were off to a great start with unrealistic goals.

“We can see what Ukraine’s future can and should be, irrespective of exactly where lines are drawn,” Blinken said earlier this month at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “And that’s a future where it stands strongly on its own two feet militarily, economically, democratically.”

What the fuck does that mean? Military-wise, without US support, Ukraine can barely make a stand against Russia. They are depleted on men, munitions and machinery, and the supply is dwindling by the day.

Economically the war has caused an exodus of the population & business along with it that most likely won’t come back. That’s not counting the sheer destruction of cities and infrastructure. Its going to take billions to rebuild everything, guess who will foot the bill.

“Democratically” has virtually no definition. The supposed Afghan president Karzai, was a glorified mayor mostly elected by Kabul, had no far reaching countrywide support and was propped up by the US.

There is no future where Ukraine can stand on their own two feet militarily, economically or democratically without MAJOR United States spending, if at all. Zelensky is going to have to make serious concessions if they want to achieve something anywhere close to the above mentioned.
This is the same bullshit they used in Afghanistan. Let me replace a word and see if it rings any alarm bells: “And that’s a future where Afghanistan stands strongly on its own two feet militarily, economically, democratically.”

 

[Feline Supremacist]

NATO conducts the largest exercise in Europe; American "defenders" complain that they are freezing in Poland.

America's inclusive and diverse military. Can't handle 10C. Imagine what a Russian winter would do to them.

Even Colombian mercs when checking out snow for the first time aren't afraid of it

"Look, you can eat it!".

It's why winter is my favorite season in the NE, and it rarely even goes below 0F at its coldest, yet the streets of NYC are devoid of niggers lol

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

I happened to turn on ESPN during the Aus women's tennis final. Don't really give a crap either way, except I noticed it looks like they Voldemort'd the flag of Belarus. Not Russia, Belarus. When did that become a thing? Russian cooties or something?

Huh, while I was jinkying around with the screenshot, she won. Congrats to Belarus. I forgot women's tennis is best two out of three and not three out of five like the men's game, lol.

 

[TJT]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/26/ukraine-war-plan-biden-defense/

This should come as a surprise to absolutely nobody. But yet I am sure it will.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/26/ukraine-war-plan-biden-defense/

This should come as a surprise to absolutely nobody. But yet I am sure it will.

https://archive.is/ism90

Still smarting from last year’s failed counteroffensive in Ukraine, the Biden administration is putting together a new strategy that will de-emphasize winning back territory and focus instead on helping Ukraine fend off new Russian advances while moving toward a long-term goal of strengthening its fighting force and economy.

What economy? And increasingly, what fighting force?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

What economy?

AKA the money laundering of American taxpayer money.

And increasingly, what fighting force?

The last hohol, hoholina and their children, press ganging hohols in yurop, paying for mercs/auxiliaries or at worse, American troops.



Proving Zhukov right.